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Pretty stoked to see such positive early reception to my old program in Cedar Ridge! I just hope they can keep the momentum to BOA Austin and beyond and not stagnate. CR has been through quite a lot in terms of instability, with 4 head director changes in the 11 years the school has been open, and somewhere around 8 director changes in general, so it makes me excited to see them continue to do well even after ANOTHER head director change this year. 

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1 hour ago, principalagent said:

She of course is, but that doesn’t mean it’s always proper. These are teenagers at the end of the day, and Stony Point is in a kinda weird and probably not fun spot as a sort of odd man out in a district where the bulk of the bands are very successful. It’s one thing when we punch up—nobody’s feelings should be all that hurt by saying (all examples) that Vandegrift is boring and FloMo is stale and CTJ is a mess (but at the very least, *how* those opinions are expressed *here* should matter too!). Those bands and their results speak for themselves above any of our opinions. But going after Stony Point, when the poster is very clearly not a Stony Point parent and likely one of a school near the top of the RRISD pecking order, is probably past the appropriate mark for this forum.
 

Having been a student on this forum (but not admitting to how long ago!), we definitely read it, and sometimes it’s hard for it not to sting a bit. Even if you’re a Hebron or Reagan or TWHS kid. 

well put - I am just glad that it is not me in the doghouse this time

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1 hour ago, principalagent said:

She of course is, but that doesn’t mean it’s always proper. These are teenagers at the end of the day, and Stony Point is in a kinda weird and probably not fun spot as a sort of odd man out in a district where the bulk of the bands are very successful. It’s one thing when we punch up—nobody’s feelings should be all that hurt by saying (all examples) that Vandegrift is boring and FloMo is stale and CTJ is a mess (but at the very least, *how* those opinions are expressed *here* should matter too!). Those bands and their results speak for themselves above any of our opinions. But going after Stony Point, when the poster is very clearly not a Stony Point parent and likely one of a school near the top of the RRISD pecking order, is probably past the appropriate mark for this forum.
 

Having been a student on this forum (but not admitting to how long ago!), we definitely read it, and sometimes it’s hard for it not to sting a bit. Even if you’re a Hebron or Reagan or TWHS kid. 

Okay, then she does not have the right to express her opinion, her way. Got it.

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14 minutes ago, IPlayDrumsAndStuff said:

That's literally not what he said, she can express her opinion however she wants, but she's not immune to criticism of how her opinion came across. Get over yourself lol

And you are subject to criticism as well for your comments. Where you are wrong is where you tell me what to do. You don't have the right to do that without subjecting yourself to criticism. Sounds like you need to get over yourself and heed your own advice. I just like to for people to be able to air their opinions whether they are popular, or not. I didn't say I agreed with her, but I don't have to, to be okay with what she said. I know my opinions are not popular here which is why I rarely post anymore. There was a time when people could be honest and open here, years ago. Differing opinions are not welcome here any more and when someone breaks with the ranks, they pay the price for it.

 

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27 minutes ago, MoonLite said:

People should be able to express their opinions, but be extremely careful when doing so. Members from bands you may be talking about will see this. At the end of the day, everyone is working hard towards having a great season. And that's all that matters : D

As someone who's made some pretty tactless comments in the past, I agree with this. There really isn't any need for trash talking or dogpiling in the realm of high school marching band. If you don't believe the things you say about a program, which ultimately consists of a bunch of kids doing something they love, needs to be taken into consideration then you need some self-reflection on your part.

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2 hours ago, abtwitch said:

Think about it like this:

Imagine if someone in the txbands.com live blog put "I'm extremely unimpressed with this program, next" when talking about a smaller program in a different position than the BOA powerhouses they're competing against. People would get outraged and rightfully so, some of the kids marching read that stuff and it often means more to them than their actual results. Less kids may read the forums, but they are definitely on here. I would know as someone who has teched at high schools in recent years and is heavily involved in the community.

You can criticize any band program and I have plenty that I do voice on occasion, but when making those criticisms you have to put yourself in the shoes of those performers and think about how they would take them. Condescendingly saying a program "needs help" when you have positive things to say about every other program at an event is crossing that line. This isn't a "muh freedom of speech" thing, it's a "understand that your words do have an effect on others and you are to an extent responsible for those reactions" thing.

I know very few of you would ever do this since you are so knowledgeable and wise, omnipotent really, but maybe this person didn't mean it the way you took it. Instead of immediately attacking someone and criticizing and assuming, maybe you could have asked for clarification. Not a popular thing these days giving people grace and allowing for your possible misinterpretation. How about just not worrying about it in the first place. If you disagree, PM them and have a discussion. Not as fun as having you and your friends in the forum pile on to the unfortunate person, but maybe a better course to take. Maybe your attacks are just as offensive to others. No, you'd never consider that. Obviously.

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5 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

Ouch. I’ve been painting all day and missed the fun!  Where’s the popcorn?  But seriously, I have some thoughts on the subject as well.  Shocking, I know! ?

The original poster is someone I know and like, and I doubt she was expecting such vehement responses to her giving her opinion on the RRISD Festival of bands the other night. Could she have left off the Stony Point comment?  Sure. But it’s still an opinion and it’s still relevant. I do feel for those SP kids. It’s not fair that they are at the only high school in the district that seems to have school leadership that simply doesn’t care as much about marching band and therefore doesn’t hire the same caliber of staff as the rest of the district does. They DO need help, and I think it’s past time they got it. Come on SPHS!  Hire some Fine Arts staff that cares!! 

On a similar note, I admit that I have been struggling with feeling bad about comments I sometimes have made as well. I recently commented that I was sad about Leander seemingly slipping due to Covid, and I have wondered if I should have kept that to myself. I know band kids read these forums and I have been beating myself up for saying anything derogatory about Leander at all. I can’t bear the thought of kids reading negative stuff we say and taking it to heart!  But on the other hand, it is an opinion, and this is a forum filled with people who have them. And it’s just hard to know what is and isn’t okay to express anymore.

Let’s definitely make an effort to build these programs up as much as possible in here, but let’s also cut each other some slack, especially in these current crazy stressful times.  

And if you are a band student and you are reading this, just know that we all care so much about each and every one of you, and we are rooting for you all to go out there and KILL IT in competition this season!!!

Well said! I personally believe that your comment about Leander was perfectly fine. Yes, they're smaller and seem to have taken a bit of a step back, as have many programs. But they're also Leander. They'll have an amazing season and rebuild their program.

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On 9/15/2021 at 4:14 PM, FaultLineBlues said:

Pretty stoked to see such positive early reception to my old program in Cedar Ridge! I just hope they can keep the momentum to BOA Austin and beyond and not stagnate. CR has been through quite a lot in terms of instability, with 4 head director changes in the 11 years the school has been open, and somewhere around 8 director changes in general, so it makes me excited to see them continue to do well even after ANOTHER head director change this year. 

I still can’t get over how gorgeous the new uniforms are as well!  And that guard!!  ???

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