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2022 BOA Grand Nationals (Nov. 10 - 12)


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7 minutes ago, packwick said:

ok ok ok, but is anyone going to beat Carmel this year? juuust watched their high cam for the 1st time and hoooly cow that drill writing is incredible. versus all the best TX bands this year it's like comparing the Palace of Versailles to a bunch of huts in the woods. it's utterly exquisite.

Carmel is always one of my favorites when it comes to visual design. The drill, the guard, the way they use the whole field, etc. There are a couple large bands where it feels crowded on the field a lot but Carmel always has great variety when it comes to field coverage.  

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11 hours ago, packwick said:

ok ok ok, but is anyone going to beat Carmel this year? juuust watched their high cam for the 1st time and hoooly cow that drill writing is incredible. versus all the best TX bands this year it's like comparing the Palace of Versailles to a bunch of huts in the woods. it's utterly exquisite.

Ha. I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but there is a kernel of truth here. This is a top-shelf visual program from Carmel. It's shaping up to be every bit as compelling as their 2016-2018 National Championship shows. Gaines really knows how to create a beautiful, intricate picture on the field -- along with finding fresh and musical transitions between those pictures. It's honestly almost a dead art at this point. The set design and concept are a bit simple, however, and it makes me wonder if the judges might go for something more extravagant.

The music is familiar, but done in a fresh enough way. The phrases are nicely shaped, expressive, subtly dynamic, and the control during the tempo changes is impressive. Combined with the visual, it makes for some high elegance indeed. In other words, it's pure Carmel.

Do I think they'll win Nationals? I don't know. Avon and Broken Arrow are both capable of beating Carmel at their best, with I think much lesser chances from bands like Tarpon Springs, Blue Springs, and William Mason. But Carmel has certainly thrown down the gauntlet.

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1 hour ago, slowbrass said:

Carmel looks nice but it’s nothing too crazy for them imo. I think Blue Springs might be a sleeper for visual because their movement is incredible. Carmel’s music on the other hand, is some of the best I’ve heard.

Blue Springs has improved vastly over last year for sure, and their choreography is excellent. I'm wondering if they'll be able to crash the top 3 party again. I love a good Debussy medley. It's all very wondrous and magical.

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On 10/7/2022 at 3:02 PM, Rubisco said:

Blue Springs has improved vastly over last year for sure, and their choreography is excellent. I'm wondering if they'll be able to crash the top 3 party again. I love a good Debussy medley. It's all very wondrous and magical.

sorry to break it to y'all but Blue Springs isn't attending this year. the more ya know...

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OFFICIAL PRELIMS SCHEDULE AS OF 10/17/2022 (Texas bands are bolded)

THURSDAY

Panel 1
8:30 - Bourbon County H.S., KY
8:45 - John Hardin H.S., KY
9:00 - Tipton H.S., IN
9:15 - Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH
9:30 - Anderson County H.S., KY
9:45 - Finneytown H.S., OH
10:00 - South Point H.S., OH
10:15 - Colerain H.S., OH
10:30 - Arcanum H.S., OH
10:45 - East Clinton H.S., OH
11:00 - Fairborn H.S., OH

11:15 - Indianapolis Music Showcase

BREAK

Panel 2
11:45 - Norton H.S., OH
12:00 - Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
12:15 - Greenfield-Central H.S., IN
12:30 - Carlisle H.S., OH
12:45 - Monrovia H.S., IN
1:00 - Milford H.S., OH
1:15 - Hamilton H.S., OH
1:30 - Goshen H.S., IN
1:45 - Bellbrook H.S., OH
2:00 - Talawanda H.S., OH
2:15 - Piqua H.S., OH
2:30 - Wilmington H.S., OH
2:45 - Avon H.S., OH
3:00 - Tippecanoe H.S., OH

BREAK

Panel 1
3:30 - Miamisburg H.S., OH
3:45 - Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
4:00 - Campbell County H.S., KY
4:15 - South Oldham H.S., KY
4:30 - Morton H.S., IL
4:45 - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
5:00 - Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
5:15 - Homestead H.S., IN
5:30 - Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
5:45 - Castle H.S., IN
6:00 - William Mason H.S., OH
6:15 - Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
6:30 - American Fork H.S., UT
6:45 - Lakota West H.S., OH

BREAK

Panel 2
7:15 - Windermere H.S., FL
7:30 - Center Grove H.S., IN
7:45 - Forest Hills Schools, OH
8:00 - Jenison H.S., OH
8:15 - La Salle H.S., OH
8:30 - Columbus Schools, IN
8:45 - Lawrence Township, IN
9:00 - Carmel H.S., IN
9:15 - Kiski Area H.S., PA
9:30 - Brownsburg H.S., IN
9:45 - Avon H.S., IN
10:00 - Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL
10:15 - James F. Byrnes H.S., SC
10:30 - Southlake Carroll H.S., TX


FRIDAY
Panel 1
7:30 - DeWitt H.S., MI
7:45 - Newberry H.S., FL
8:00 - Stoneman Douglas H.S., FL
8:15 - Deer Creek H.S., OK
8:30 - Cleveland H.S., NC
8:45 - M.G. Johnson H.S., TX
9:00 - Panther Creek H.S., NC
9:15 - Mustang H.S., OK
9:30 - Huron Valley, MI
9:45 - D'Iberville H.S., MS
10:00 - Grain Valley H.S., MO
10:15 - Legacy H.S., CO
10:30 - Rosemount H.S., MN

BREAK

Panel 2
11:15 - Prosper H.S., TX
11:30 - Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
11:45 - DeSoto Central H.S., MS
12:00 - Ardrey Kell H.S., NC
12:15 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
12:30 - Ravenwood H.S., TN
12:45 - Murphysboro H.S., IL
1:00 - Bassett H.S., VA
1:15 - Catawba Ridge H.S., SC
1:30 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL
1:45 - Green Level H.S., NC
2:00 - Goodpasture Christian School, TN

BREAK

Panel 1
2:45 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK
3:00 - Fishers H.S., IN
3:15 - Centerville H.S., OH
3:30 - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH
3:45 - Greendale H.S., WI
4:00 - Cumberland County H.S., KY
4:15 - Lakota East H.S., OH
4:30 - Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
4:45 - Meade County H.S., KY
5:00 - Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI
5:15 - Warren Local H.S., OH

5:30 - EXH. Ohio University Marching 110

BREAK

Panel 2
6:00 - Hardin Valley Academy, TN
6:15 - Lake Hamilton H.S., AR
6:30 - Murray H.S., KY
6:45 - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
7:00 - Nicholas County H.S., KY
7:15 - North Hardin H.S., KY
7:30 - Beechwood H.S., OH
7:45 - Chesapeake H.S., OH
8:00 - Summit H.S., TN
8:15 - Hendrickson H.S., TX
8:30 - Springboro H.S., OH

8:45 - EXH. University of North Alabama

Keep in mind that Indianapolis is EST, so the times listed here are one hour ahead of Texas (CST).

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8 hours ago, Dallas Hobbs said:

Does anyone know how the number of bands chosen to advance to semifinals is determined? Every year I see a different number like 34, 38, or 37 bands in semifinals but I never know how they came up with that quantity. 

Top 11 from each panel regardless of class move on. Then the next 8 overall move on, regardless of class.  After those 30 are determined, if there are not 2 from each class from each panel advancing, additional bands advance to fill out that representation.
 

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So how is everyone feeling of our tx bands right now? I personally think of the 4, prosper is the strongest, and has a great chance of top half of finals. Johnson seems to be doing good as well, with a solid win at midland. Carrol made a good redemption this past weekend at boa prosper, and Hendrickson had made finals at all their contest, but haven’t broken into the 80’s, but hopefully a most likely win at their area this weekend can be a good confidence boost for them. I’d love to hear y’all’s thoughts as we get closer to nats! 

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1 hour ago, Tubalord11 said:

So how is everyone feeling of our tx bands right now? I personally think of the 4, prosper is the strongest, and has a great chance of top half of finals. Johnson seems to be doing good as well, with a solid win at midland. Carrol made a good redemption this past weekend at boa prosper, and Hendrickson had made finals at all their contest, but haven’t broken into the 80’s, but hopefully a most likely win at their area this weekend can be a good confidence boost for them. I’d love to hear y’all’s thoughts as we get closer to nats! 

Johnson - Should make finals

Prosper - Likely will make finals

Hendrickson - Will Make Top 20

Carroll :( 

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3 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

So how is everyone feeling of our tx bands right now? I personally think of the 4, prosper is the strongest, and has a great chance of top half of finals. Johnson seems to be doing good as well, with a solid win at midland. Carrol made a good redemption this past weekend at boa prosper, and Hendrickson had made finals at all their contest, but haven’t broken into the 80’s, but hopefully a most likely win at their area this weekend can be a good confidence boost for them. I’d love to hear y’all’s thoughts as we get closer to nats! 

Haven't seen full videos of Prosper or MG Johnson yet, but the snippets I saw and the scores they got set themselves up very well for Indy in a few weeks. I think both have a chance of bottom half of finals. For Carroll, they will be in semis but I don't see them in finals. Design/GE is going to hold them back I'm afraid. As for Hendrickson: they have a great show and will solidly be in semis, but from a music execution/pacing and GE standpoint and seeing the other names on the list of who's going to Nats this year, I don't have them in finals. Dependent on how they do in Waco and San Antonio, that may change so I'm not counting them out yet.

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