2022 6A UIL State

[1998-2018]

11 hours ago, Dallas Hobbs said:

Keller has placed above Waxahachie in 7-judge UIL style contests(DMI and so far state prelims) however Waxahachie placed above Keller in both prelims and finals at Area, a 5-judge system. Interesting. No idea why this happened lol

Having seen all of them, I’m inclined to say it has practically everything to do with the variations in both bands runs and almost nothing to do with the number of judges.

It’s also possible the personal preferences of the different judges played a role, but that bit of dirty laundry is usually kept in the closet.

[1998-2018]

1 hour ago, Vidal28 said:

At least the UIL discreditors/disregarders can’t use the “retired old timey teacher judge” card anymore lol

I know who you can thank for that change. 😉

[badboamemes]

1 hour ago, Lildrummerdude1 said:

I absolutely can’t believe Coppell got 11th in percussion. After their successful showing at Thunder In The Hills and Lonestar drumline contest, I would at least expect them to place top 5. Questionable judging???

It's almost always in the quality of the run. They could have had a not so strong run in prelims. I also see a lot of people look at the percussion world as only battery and they don't pay attention to the front ensemble that much. It's 50/50, if you don't have a strong front ensemble you are hosed. (Finals percussion judge is a front ensemble person btw.)

[littlejaw]

5 hours ago, badboamemes said:

It's almost always in the quality of the run. They could have had a not so strong run in prelims. I also see a lot of people look at the percussion world as only battery and they don't pay attention to the front ensemble that much. It's 50/50, if you don't have a strong front ensemble you are hosed. (Finals percussion judge is a front ensemble person btw.)

We see this all the time in DCI and WGI when it comes to percussion. I’ve always been happy with Drum Judges because they always seem to be the best judges to call it like it is that night.

There is minor variance in judges that seem just to score battery with more weight over the front ensemble and those that tend to give them a more equal weight. I’ve listened to a bunch of DCI drum tapes on the bus and the score is reflected in the comments for sure.

I hope that we start to get the same outcomes in BOA and UIL. No matter the group, what you put on the field that night gets the score it deserves.

[LeanderMomma]

Y’all literally wasted 2-3 pages in this thread asking for recaps. 🤣🤣🤣

[Samuel Culper]

16 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

Y’all literally wasted 2-3 pages in this thread asking for recaps. 🤣🤣🤣

Who says it was a waste?

[LeanderMomma]

4 minutes ago, Samuel Culper said:

Who says it was a waste?

all about perspective I guess. Definitely was a waste of my time reading 3 pages of SEND ME THE RECAPS. 😜

[Gehrig4]

1 minute ago, LeanderMomma said:

all about perspective I guess. Definitely was a waste of my time reading 3 pages of SEND ME THE RECAPS. 😜

There were like five pages of - this is the worst live stream ever- and it actually changed !   No waste!

[Fez76]

So interesting to see the Area I results completely flipped (setting aside JET). Cypress Woods came out on top at state. Woods definitely had a great run with a difficult and interesting show. Fair’s placement so low is very surprising, though.

[FloMoDad]

10 hours ago, CosmicLimbo said:

Honestly super happy for Duncanville. I hope they make use of this momentum and continue to grow and hopefully return to the heights they were once at. Visually they've improved tremendously and if they continue to produce great designs, and can start challenging themselves more on a musical front, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Congragulation Dville!

Duncanville deserves some credit for the heaviest props. I felt sore just watching them roll into the truck lot. Very cool looking but there was a lot of steel and several metal park benches (without wheels). wow

[1998-2018]

11 hours ago, CosmicLimbo said:

Honestly super happy for Duncanville. I hope they make use of this momentum and continue to grow and hopefully return to the heights they were once at. Visually they've improved tremendously and if they continue to produce great designs, and can start challenging themselves more on a musical front, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Congragulation Dville!

So happy they got the message delivered a couple seasons ago and have updated their designs. Though I can’t help wondering how much they were hurt by their choice of band and color guard uniforms.

[AWildAltoSax]

 

2 hours ago, Fez76 said:

So interesting to see the Area I results completely flipped (setting aside JET). Cypress Woods came out on top at state. Woods definitely had a great run with a difficult and interesting show. Fair’s placement so low is very surprising, though.

It kinda happened last year too. Bridgeland then Woods then SL then JV went to SL then Bridgeland then Woods and JV at state.

We can never trust Area I ever.

[itsjaredh97]

I’m gonna go live on my YouTube tonight with the finals awards ceremony so people don’t have to watch that atrocious live stream. Same YouTube channel with viral Hebron video. Will also have vods of several bands posted after tonight.

[Vidal28]

4 hours ago, littlejaw said:

We see this all the time in DCI and WGI when it comes to percussion. I’ve always been happy with Drum Judges because they always seem to be the best judges to call it like it is that night.

There is minor variance in judges that seem just to score battery with more weight over the front ensemble and those that tend to give them a more equal weight. I’ve listened to a bunch of DCI drum tapes on the bus and the score is reflected in the comments for sure.

I hope that we start to get the same outcomes in BOA and UIL. No matter the group, what you put on the field that night gets the score it deserves.

Percussion judges definitely call it like it is, but I’m sure the woodwind and brass judges also do a pretty fine job as well haha

[littlejaw]

4 minutes ago, Vidal28 said:

Percussion judges definitely call it like it is, but I’m sure the woodwind and brass judges also do a pretty fine job as well haha

In DCI there is great debate whether the Brass judges are call it like it is on a night in night out basis. But this is UIL

[Vidal28]

22 minutes ago, littlejaw said:

In DCI there is great debate whether the Brass judges are call it like it is on a night in night out basis. But this is UIL

I’m aware, but from what I’ve observed in this contest, they’re fine so far

[Dallas Hobbs]

31 minutes ago, littlejaw said:

In DCI there is great debate whether the Brass judges are call it like it is on a night in night out basis. But this is UIL

What do you all mean by “call it like it is”? 

[TXTrumpetGuy]

Looking past prelims results to the finals schedule.

Vista Ridge has had some very good fortune when it comes to finals draws between tonight and BOA. 

I don’t really think Hebron is going to take a tie for first yesterday lying down, but I also get the sense that Vandegrift can taste that gold medal, and will leave it all on the field today.
 

There’s only two bands in the bottom half I could see moving into the top : Marcus and CTJ. It’s going to be difficult for that to happen, if there’s any motion I think it’s from one of those bands, but not both.

The top 5 is going to be interesting. I think the groups that’ll be there will stay roughly the same as yesterday, but I could see the rankings fluctuating quite a bit.

All in all, the stage is set for a really stellar lineup this afternoon. I can confidently say I have no idea what is going to happen, but I can’t wait to watch it all unfold.

[littlejaw]

12 minutes ago, Dallas Hobbs said:

What do you all mean by “call it like it is”? 

The number on the sheet is reflective of the performance that evening. Evidence in point, nearly every corps’ scores go up at every show all season with no dips. And some groups never have any variance in sub caption placement all season.

[Tubalord11]

Good afternoon everyone! I will be doing live updates for each band via NFHS, and will also be able to announce placements if needed, although it seems the stream is a little behind/ not 100% live. But anyways, good luck to everyone! This is the finish line for all of these programs, so give it your all everyone! 

[TXTrumpetGuy]

1 minute ago, Tubalord11 said:

Good afternoon everyone! I will be doing live updates for each band via NFHS, and will also be able to announce placements if needed, although it seems the stream is a little behind/ not 100% live. But anyways, good luck to everyone! This is the finish line for all of these programs, so give it your all everyone! 

The stream was definitely between 3-5 minutes behind yesterday. It made me nervous for the bands when it looked like they were taking the field 5 minutes into their performance slot.

[CosmicLimbo]

3 hours ago, 1998-2018 said:

Though I can’t help wondering how much they were hurt by their choice of band and color guard uniforms.

I don’t know if their uniforms really hurt them or not. Looking at the judges sheets, the visual judges liked them more than the music judges (apart from brass).

[Minimaster]

The stream video quality is once against a travesty.

just straight up blurry.

[Tubalord11]

7 minutes ago, TXTrumpetGuy said:

The stream was definitely between 3-5 minutes behind yesterday. It made me nervous for the bands when it looked like they were taking the field 5 minutes into their performance slot.

yeah. and I was watching the announcement of finalist but they were coming in from someone else way before the first one was announced so I guessed it was behind, but hopefully today it isn't. doesn't look like it is right now I think. 

[TXTrumpetGuy]

Pearland came to play! I can't tell if what we're hearing through the stream is the same as what the judges are hearing because the audio has been so weird, but the brass sounded really great. What a great run to open finals.