Rudedog34 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 We need a forum for recovering band parents like me :-) I think I have a problem with watching bands,,,, http://www.txbands.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6817-where-do-former-band-parents-go-to-die/page-2&do=findComment&comment=100990 LeanderMomma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregorydf01 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 This is my 11th year as a Leander Band Dad and attending this SA Super Regional. I have always loved the spirit of teamwork and genuine desire from all to see all programs do well. Even though our youngest has experienced more success lately with the program than his older siblings, I remember all too well how it felt when we never knew if we were going to make finals. Being part a "bubble band" for several years has helped me appreciate what a privilege it is to make finals regularly. In addition, it allows me to appreciate what all the band parents are feeling this weekend. I hope everyone does well and has a great experience with their kiddos. I love being a "Band Dad" and enjoy the community that we are all part of. Agreed, the Teamwork among the students, parents, staff etc... is amazing for Band Programs. Got to love this example (see video link) of teamwork from Vista Ridge about the Silver Band members who don't have a Marching Spot in the show but are critical components of the show and the Band, can't do it without the full team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Agreed, the Teamwork among the students, parents, staff etc... is amazing for Band Programs. Got to love this example (see video link) of teamwork from Vista Ridge about the Silver Band members who don't have a Marching Spot in the show but are critical components of the show and the Band, can't do it without the full team! Hey, can I just give MAJOR props to the person who puts out these AMAZING Vista Ridge Ranger Band videos every week? These things are masterpieces in and of themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandisdope Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Gosh I've been making so many predictions (I swear this is the last one ) 1. Ronald Reagan 2. Claudia Taylor Johnson 3. Flowermound 4. Woodlands 5. Vista Ridge 6. Hebron 7. Vandegrift 8. Keller 9. James Bowie 10. Leander 11. Marcus 12. Cedar Park 13. Coppell/Cedar Ridge/Hendrickson 14. Coppell/Cedar Ridge/Hendrickson 15. Coppell/Cedar Ridge/Hendrickson 16. Timber Creek/LD Bell/Prosper 17. LD Bell/Timber Creek/Prosper 18. Prosper/LD Bell/Timber Creek 19. Seven Lakes/Pearland/Oak Ridge 20. Pearland/Oak Ridge/Seven Lakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Hey, can I just give MAJOR props to the person who puts out these AMAZING Vista Ridge Ranger Band videos every week? These things are masterpieces in and of themselves! He's a talented dude. His daughter is on the cymbal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 He's a talented dude. His daughter is on the cymbal line. man, when those cymbal girls spin around on that compass and then LICK the edge of their cymbals? That is FANTASTIC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 man, when those cymbal girls spin around on that compass and then LICK the edge of their cymbals? That is FANTASTIC! Ya, Round Rock's former cymbal tech works with Vista Ridge now. Round Rock use to do the cymbal lick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Ya, Round Rock's former cymbal tech works with Vista Ridge now. Round Rock use to do the cymbal lick. And we are going to miss her next year. She is a first time mom-to-be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 And we are going to miss her next year. She is a first time mom-to-be. That's nice to hear. So now that will make Round Rock's percussion director a dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mash Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Agreed, the Teamwork among the students, parents, staff etc... is amazing for Band Programs. Got to love this example (see video link) of teamwork from Vista Ridge about the Silver Band members who don't have a Marching Spot in the show but are critical components of the show and the Band, can't do it without the full team! I love that they recognized them! These band members usually are forgotten and they all work their butts off! And the best part is the other band member recognizing them. It warms my heart. I am proud to be associated with Vista, a band with a great spirit and a warm heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Testing Trumpet Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Final Panel Predictions---- --(Adjudication Panel 1)-- “Locks”: Ronald Reagan H.S., TX Hebron H.S., TX “Advance outright bubble”: Leander H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Hendrickson H.S., TX ---------------------------- Cedar Park H.S., TX Cedar Ridge H.S., TX Westlake H.S., TX LD Bell H.S., TX “Potential upsets to finals advancers”: Round Rock H.S., TX Timber Creek H.S., TX Smithson Valley H.S., TX Clear Brook H.S., TX T.W. College Park H.S., TX Lehman H.S., TX --(Adjudication Panel 2)-- “Locks”: Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Flower Mound H.S., TX “Advance outright bubble”: The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Vista Ridge H.S., TX --------------------------------- James Bowie H.S., TX Marcus H.S., TX “Potential upsets to finals advancers”: Pearland H.S., TX Winston Churchill H.S., TX Oak Ridge H.S., TX Coppell H.S., TX Westwood H.S., TX Jack C. Hays H.S., TX Seven Lakes H.S., TX Prosper H.S., TX / New Braunfels H.S., TX (Can’t choose between) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Testing Trumpet Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Final Finalist Predictions : Advance Outright--- Ronald Reagan H.S., TX Hebron H.S., TX Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Flower Mound H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Hendrickson H.S., TX Leander H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Vandegrift H.S., TX Vista Ridge H.S., TX Next 4 Advancement-- Cedar Park H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX Cedar Ridge H.S., TX Marcus H.S., TX Fighting to take a spot from the next 4- Westlake H.S., TX LD Bell H.S., TX Round Rock H.S., TX Timber Creek H.S., TX Pearland H.S., TX Winston Churchill H.S., TX Oak Ridge H.S., TX Coppell H.S., TX Westwood H.S., TX Haltom H.S., TX Jack C. Hays H.S., TX Seven Lakes H.S., TX Prosper H.S., TX New Braunfels H.S., TX Smithson Valley H.S., TX cubuff8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_radon_inSA Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I would love to see Seven Lakes jump into the mix this year. I saw them in McAllen and met some of their Road crew as well. Great up and coming band. There is so much talent this year and the bands are all so close. It is going to come down to who is "ON" the most. I just wish I could watch more bands but Crew duties call and those trucks don't load themselves. Best of luck to everybody participating this weekend (and on Monday-Wednesday)!! Yell for all the kids when they take the field....and be sure to give the road crew some love too. Stadium rehearsal calls!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post abtwitch Posted October 31, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I did the "painstaking" job of finding videos and watching all of the top 50 groups from BOA San Antonio 2017, so I thought I would make my predictions for who will be in the gunning for top 50 instead of just finals. So many great shows that get overlooked, especially once you get passed the top 30.Panel 1:Friday:Block 1:8:15 Smithson Valley - coming off of a premiere in Area finals10:00 Hendrickson - state qualifier, consistent BOA finalist since 2016Block 3:2:15 Rouse - contender for class AA title after their fantastic showing at Austin in early season2:45 Weiss - another contender for class AA just 2 slots after Rouse, just coming off their fantastic showing at St. Louis ahead of groups like Owasso and Grain Valley3:00 Lake Travis - yet another year in Area finals, stronger than last year3:15 Westlake - state qualifier, a hard maybe for BOA finals though3:45 Round Rock - the way their show has improved since early season is shocking, wouldn't be surprised to see them sneaking back into finals4:00 Cedar Ridge - not a massive fan of the show, but they perform the heck out of it and I'd be surprised seeing them missing finalsBlock 5:7:15 Leander - had an incredible performance at Austin and is improved from last year's show immensly7:30 Ronald Reagan - already has a notable BOA title from Houston above other powerhouses, in contention for gold7:45 Cedar Park - as has been mentioned, hasn't missed BOA finals in over a decade and showing no signs of missing again8:00 Del Rio - a valley group on the rise with a finals appearance at Midland already this year8:15 Pflugerville - just dropped down to 5A, but stronger than ever; big surprise with them one out of finals at Austin and has the potential to really bring at the Alamodome8:30 Keller Central - has been consistently in the top half of BOA San Antonio consistently and was just on the outside of finals at Bedford this year9:00 J.E. Taylor - had a fantastic showing at Area this past weekend and will be performing again for the state marching contest9:30 Keller - easily a lock for finals after their very impressive performance at every competition they've been to this yearSaturday:Block 2:10:00 L.D. Bell - gonna really be pushing to make finals here after missing state this past weekend, strong as always despite said results10:15 Clear Brook - was just 1 spot from qualifying for state and had a FANTASTIC performance last year at this competition10: 30 Friendswood - not too sure about this group after their director change and surprisingly low placement at BOA Houston, but I'm not counting them out as it's been a few weeks10:45 James Martin - similar to Keller Central, consistently in the top half and was on the outskirts of finals at Bedford11:00 College Park - state qualifier and consistently is top half at this competition, just out of Houston finals and had a very strong showing at Lone Star Preview11:15 Hebron - massive contender for the title and if not, still probably will win the music caption12:00 Timber Creek - what a breakout year for them! First their first BOA title at Midland and strong showing at Bedford, they could easily slip their way into finals. Super unfortunate how they missed out on state, but they were tied with DVille and lost judge's choice12:30 Camdenton - the third class AA title contender and our single annual out-of-staterPanel 2:Friday:Block 2:11:00 Seven Lakes - a fantastic followup to their breakout year last season, they have two BOA finals appearances under their belt this season and will be looking for another, as well as being a state qualifier11:15 McNeil - really impressed with their show this year and we have yet to see them in BOA this season (thanks rain), as a little sister of sorts to my high school, I'm really rooting for them here11:30 L.D. Brandeis - area finalist and was top 50 last year, been hearing really good things about them this season as well12:30 S.D. O'Connor - despite their director change and apparent drop, I still feel like they have the ability to push the top 50 again1:00 - Jack C. Hays - After watching a video of their area performance which earned them state alternate in one of the most competitive areas, I have no doubt that they will be in the top 50 this year after placing 51st last seasonBlock 4:4:30 Winston Churchill - while still not too their old levels of performance, Churchill is still a top of the line group and will be in the top 25 for sure4:45 Ann Richards - while still probably won't be in the top 50, will more than likely be the class A champion5:00 Vandegrift - was top 3 last year and could easily medal again after seeing their success this season5:45 Westwood - GO WOOD! Definitely has cleaned up their show and made significant changes that will help them with GE; probably won't make finals, but shouldn't be counted out and will be right up there6:00 Flower Mound - no real introduction needed, area champions and defending state champion6:15 J.B. Alexander - after medaling with their beautiful performance at McAllen early season and earning their way into the state contest for the first time in quite some time, they will be looking to make a mark on the Alamodome a few days early6:45 James Bowie - has had incredible success this season and has really stepped it up from last yearSaturday:Block 1:7:15 Vista Ridge - the amount they've grown since last season is awe-inspiring, won't have their chance of making finals hurt by the early performance time7:30 Roma - historical valley powerhouse that will more than likely have cleaned up since McAllen7:45 Southwest - defending class AA champion that will still be competitive despite the massive gain of competition in this classification this year9:00 Oak Ridge - what a year for them so far with their outstanding results at BOA Houston and other local competitions, could even sneak into finals very slimly9:15 Pearland - if we learned anything from last season, it's that Pearland doesn't care what they made at BOA Houston and neither should you. Definitely looking to break into finals this year especially after their area championship titleBlock 3:12:45 The Woodlands - after their rough season last year with the hurricane, they are ready to make a comeback and are in conversation for gold1:15 Plano East - haven't heard much about them this season, but I don't expect that they've gone anywhere1:30 Wylie - after last year's surprising 22nd placement, they will definitely come back strong this year once again1:45 Marcus - still a lock for finals despite them losing Drinkwater this year, don't expect anything less from them2:00 Prosper - they've been all over the place this season, but have been in finals no matter what; definitely looking to have their first of hopefully many runs in a dome be fantastic2:15 Coppell - were fantastic last year and even better this year, will very likely be in the top 202:30 Haltom - been a hot second without them at this competition, will be looking to make their return very strong after they finished 3rd at Atlanta last season2:45 Spring - a historical Houston powerhouse and previous national champion; a shell of their former selves, but still a fantastic program to keep your eyes on3:00 Pioneer - in a similar position as Roma following their relatively low placement at McAllen, another one of the many fantastic class AA groups here3:15 C.T. Johnson - an obvious contender for the title considering their massive success so far this season and being the defending BOA San Antonio championThere's my top 25 (ft. Ann Richards) from each panel with many other fantastic programs that I'm probably forgetting. Super excited for this competition, but bummed I won't be able to make it down this year. A Testing Trumpet, LHSax, CTJBandPops and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Testing Trumpet Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Very nice guide! I can tell you put a lot of work into that! abtwitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwguard17 Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’m dying to know what Jeremiah and Co think about this over at horn rank. I can’t make heads or tails of who will be in finals JeremiahW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenedictCucumberpatch Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’m curious to see how Area played a role in rankings. As some bands should drastically change positions if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaiah Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’m curious to see how Area played a role in rankings. As some bands should drastically change positions if so.You can alter the URL on HornRank to see the updated list. Just change the day to 30 and add 1 to the week. Edit: https://www.hornrank.com/2018/10/top-30-rankings-oct-30-2018-week-7.html?m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJBandPops Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 You can alter the URL on HornRank to see the updated list. Just change the day to 30 and add 1 to the week. Edit: https://www.hornrank.com/2018/10/top-30-rankings-oct-30-2018-week-7.html?m=1 this is the lowest # of Texas bands I have seen in the top 30 in years - only 14 of the 30 spots should be some big mix ups after this weekend and again the following week with both 6A state and Gts I wonder if UIL state will impact next week with BOA as 6A will be decided on Tuesday night and this week we did not see results until Wednesday night as apposed to Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenedictCucumberpatch Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 So I noticed that The Woodlands is now #13 after winning area F. I’ve seen their show and know for a fact that it is a killer. Is there something I’m missing? Or does HornRank believe that just because they placed 11nth last year their suddenly never going to be top 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaiah Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 So I noticed that The Woodlands is now #13 after winning area F. I’ve seen their show and know for a fact that it is a killer. Is there something I’m missing? Or does HornRank believe that just because they placed 11nth last year their suddenly never going to be top 7. HornRank isn't very transparent about what statistical model(s) they use to arrive at their rankings. All I know is that they weigh BOA placements more than state (UIL, ISSMA) results. I noticed Waxahachie in the "Next 10," so Area results were obviously considered, but it's unclear to what extent. HornRank is an ambitious project, but it relies pretty heavilly on indirect comparisons, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 This is truly a year of change in so many ways with major jumps and drops in predictions. For instance, we have a 2017 Grand National finalist that is no longer ranked in the top 40 bands on Hornrank. The rankings are speculation at this point, so they may not really mean anything at all, but I find it amazing that even the perceptions of change are so radical. I wonder what we will all be thinking/feeling next Wednesday? A Testing Trumpet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Testing Trumpet Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Truly, This is a new era of band that we are all just trying to figure out . Certainty makes these "Predictions" a lot more Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1998-2018 Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I wonder if UIL state will impact next week with BOA as 6A will be decided on Tuesday night and this week we did not see results until Wednesday night as apposed to Tuesday Don't count on it. The guys clearly enjoy watching UIL competitions but in the past have just as clearly stated their concerns regarding the variation in judging. HornRank isn't very transparent about what statistical model(s) they use to arrive at their rankings. All I know is that they weigh BOA placements more than state (UIL, ISSMA) results. I noticed Waxahachie in the "Next 10," so Area results were obviously considered, but it's unclear to what extent. HornRank is an ambitious project, but it relies pretty heavilly on indirect comparisons, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. HornRank's Top 30 and Next Ten is openly about BOA. My understanding is the algorithm either almost or completely ignores UIL, and similar state or regional organizations. However, individual contributors do go to those competitions to stay current as the season progresses, making their own judgements regarding how the bands are improving and how they would fair under BOA standards. These judgements can be reflected in the raw data they submit to the algorithm. So while it is possible, the affect of Area or State would be indirect and very likely limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJBandPops Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Don't count on it. The guys clearly enjoy watching UIL competitions but in the past have just as clearly stated their concerns regarding the variation in judging. HornRank's Top 30 and Next Ten is openly about BOA. My understanding is the algorithm either almost or completely ignores UIL, and similar state or regional organizations. However, individual contributors do go to those competitions to stay current as the season progresses, making their own judgements regarding how the bands are improving and how they would fair under BOA standards. These judgements can be reflected in the raw data they submit to the algorithm. So while it is possible, the affect of Area or State would be indirect and very likely limited. I would have to think that the UIL Area D had an impact with CTJ/Reagan swapping spots in the ranking and the only head to head they have had all year was the recent UIL competition, but with BOA SA starting in a day, it will all be flushed out over the weekend. it will be interesting to see the changes - we know that there will be an impact based on BOA SA - so time will tell if the UIL State will impact those again - especially with only 1 band performing at GNats this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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