2024 BOA Grand National Championships (Nov. 14-16)

[Tubalord11]

I know is still gigga early, but when do boa schedules normally come out, or, when should we expect around to have the 2024 lineup?

 

 

 

Also one last desperate attempt lol, I’m still looking for either of Lovejoy’s performances from BOA Prosper 😕

[ChristopherRoden]

read on the other thread a rumor that Broken Arrow is dropping Cartwright…

[crunchycookie3]

8 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

I know is still gigga early, but when do boa schedules normally come out, or, when should we expect around to have the 2024 lineup?

 

 

 

Also one last desperate attempt lol, I’m still looking for either of Lovejoy’s performances from BOA Prosper 😕

Never exactly sure when they release, but I vivdly remember a few years ago they ran a “Twelve Days of BOA” campaign around the holidays where each day they revealed a little more about the BOA schedule. Maybe it will coincide with the holidays once again!

[RyanHuskey]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:47 PM, Tubalord11 said:

What I really want is more 5A schools to go. I know that funding in general from 6A to 5A schools may be pretty significantly different, I'd love to be filled in, and while I understand it's mainly 6A schools that go because they probably have a higher chance of finals/most of the ones that go tend to do well all season long, I'd love for groups like Aledo, Burleson Centennial, Richland, the Frisco schools, etc. to go. it would make AAA a lot more competitive, and I think they would do very well. I know F-Wood is I'm pretty sure planning on going in 24, sounds like CP may be, but Idk I just would really love that, heck even bands like Celina and Anna. I know it's a really expensive trip but I'd love for it to happen. 

As much as I’d love for my school (Burleson Centennial) to go to grand nats, that’ll never happen lol. It would still be cool to have more AAA (5A) reps though

[clarinetistkai05]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:47 PM, Tubalord11 said:

What I really want is more 5A schools to go. I know that funding in general from 6A to 5A schools may be pretty significantly different, I'd love to be filled in, and while I understand it's mainly 6A schools that go because they probably have a higher chance of finals/most of the ones that go tend to do well all season long, I'd love for groups like Aledo, Burleson Centennial, Richland, the Frisco schools, etc. to go. it would make AAA a lot more competitive, and I think they would do very well. I know F-Wood is I'm pretty sure planning on going in 24, sounds like CP may be, but Idk I just would really love that, heck even bands like Celina and Anna. I know it's a really expensive trip but I'd love for it to happen. 

Forney is planning it, it’s not likely to be next year from what I’ve been made aware of, but… it’s sometime in a few years. 

[BandFan59]

On 11/17/2023 at 8:30 AM, ChristopherRoden said:

read on the other thread a rumor that Broken Arrow is dropping Cartwright…

This appears to be true and would be a massive shift in the marching band world considering how essential Cartwright has been to Broken Arrow's rise over the past few decades. That said, if what I've heard about the culture and instruction at Broken Arrow under him are true then I'm not surprised that they've decided to move on from him, especially in this day and age where that "old-school" teaching mindset really isn't acceptable anymore.

[11BandMan11]

6 hours ago, BandFan59 said:

This appears to be true and would be a massive shift in the marching band world considering how essential Cartwright has been to Broken Arrow's rise over the past few decades. That said, if what I've heard about the culture and instruction at Broken Arrow under him are true then I'm not surprised that they've decided to move on from him, especially in this day and age where that "old-school" teaching mindset really isn't acceptable anymore.

Sorry for the longer post and response.... 

If what I've heard from former students about Cartwright & instructional practices that were occurring - good riddance. 

On another note - It's always interesting how there are a ton of other EXTREMELY successful "old school" band directors who did not and still do not resort to or utilize some of the methods that we all know are not just wrong for kids, but if we're really honest with ourselves, not just borderline, downright abusive.

There's a very big difference between holding students accountable / having high expectations and communicating that appropriately to CHILDREN at the high school age, and verbally accosting / screaming / threatening / etc. CHILDREN for the sake of 'the art'. Accountability is good, high expectations are good, when POSITIVELY reinforced by staff and students alike. 

Also, I really dislike how in the band community we have turned "old school" into a massive diss - we would literally have NONE of the funding, facilities, voices at the decision making table, etc. if it weren't for all of the amazing and positive "old school" band directors across Texas and the country. 

While we're at it, lets get REAL for second. Marching Band - It's not that deep. It's CHILDREN running around a football field wearing crazy costumes, throwing things in air, etc. to be a part of something bigger than themselves and a part of a band and guard family where everyone is accepted and appreciated. Sometimes we can forget that when we all get heated in recaps, have bad reps or rehearsals, whatever; at the end of the day, its just marching band. #LetsAllBeGoodPeople 

[BandFan59]

15 hours ago, 11BandMan11 said:

On another note - It's always interesting how there are a ton of other EXTREMELY successful "old school" band directors who did not and still do not resort to or utilize some of the methods that we all know are not just wrong for kids, but if we're really honest with ourselves, not just borderline, downright abusive.

There's a very big difference between holding students accountable / having high expectations and communicating that appropriately to CHILDREN at the high school age, and verbally accosting / screaming / threatening / etc. CHILDREN for the sake of 'the art'. Accountability is good, high expectations are good, when POSITIVELY reinforced by staff and students alike. 

Absolutely agree. When I used the phrase "old school" I mainly refer to those directors that have a tendency to get verbally aggressive, threatening, and downright nasty towards their students without any of the positive reinforcement, all for the sake of trying to create a successful band program. I know there are plenty of older band directors out there that have not resorted to this type of culture under their direction and I applaud them for helping to set the standards that high school marching band is at today. As someone who marched for a director that was very much similar to Cartwright in their teaching practices, I absolutely do not think that is necessary or acceptable to run a successful band program and I'm glad that nowadays we are seeing less and less of that mindset in the marching band world.

[cheeto2401]

On 11/16/2023 at 2:39 PM, cheeto2401 said:

year from now predictions

 

1st - Vandegrift (that's only if they go, if they dont, move everyone below up 1 spot)

2nd - Carmel

3rd - Avon

4th - Hebron 

5th - The Woodlands

6th - William Mason

7th - Round Rock

8th - Keller

9th - Marcus

10th - CTJ

11th - Dripping Springs

12th - Bentonville

(in case vandy doesnt go, then 12th would be Fishers)

guys change this for next year to be whenever all of these bands meet eachother in like 60 years

[BigTrombone]

Leander confirmed to be attending via their band calendar.

[clarinetistkai05]

7 minutes ago, BigTrombone said:

Leander confirmed to be attending via their band calendar.

Just heard, super excited for them!

[LeanderMomma]

I don’t think this Leander rumor is true. At least not for now. I don’t know how it got on the band calendar but it was quickly removed. I would love to see it happen tho!

[clarinetistkai05]

17 hours ago, LeanderMomma said:

I don’t think this Leander rumor is true. At least not for now. I don’t know how it got on the band calendar but it was quickly removed. I would love to see it happen tho!

it’s fun to hope about, I want them to return 😭

[LeanderMomma]

2 hours ago, clarinetistkai05 said:

it’s fun to hope about, I want them to return 😭

So do I, hun…so do I!  🥹🥰💙

[BDC]

On 11/26/2023 at 7:47 PM, LeanderMomma said:

So do I, hun…so do I!  🥹🥰💙

Gosh, I really hope so, too!  Eeek that would be so awesome!  

[tylerolivera]

On 11/13/2023 at 10:47 PM, Tubalord11 said:

What I really want is more 5A schools to go. I know that funding in general from 6A to 5A schools may be pretty significantly different, I'd love to be filled in, and while I understand it's mainly 6A schools that go because they probably have a higher chance of finals/most of the ones that go tend to do well all season long, I'd love for groups like Aledo, Burleson Centennial, Richland, the Frisco schools, etc. to go. it would make AAA a lot more competitive, and I think they would do very well. I know F-Wood is I'm pretty sure planning on going in 24, sounds like CP may be, but Idk I just would really love that, heck even bands like Celina and Anna. I know it's a really expensive trip but I'd love for it to happen. 

with anna moving to 5A it is a possibility. Celina has loads of money to shell out, so I'm sure by 2030 we can see them there especially with the rapid growth of their school district and city.

[lost]

8 hours ago, tylerolivera said:

with anna moving to 5A it is a possibility. Celina has loads of money to shell out, so I'm sure by 2030 we can see them there especially with the rapid growth of their school district and city.

Money in the program /=/ nats trip.

A lot of bands prefer to commonly take non-competition trips to Disney or Universal (occasionally New York) or really anywhere to fill in for a band trip. Sometimes they perform in parades there or other similar exhibitions. 

I would be very happy to see the talents of Ana or Celina at nationals, but I'm just being realistic with existing trends.

Also, money in the school and district /=/ money in the program.

[LeanderMomma]

I’m looking forward to the full 2024 BOA schedule being released tomorrow, some possible new regionals, and more clues about bands potentially attending GN. Let us know if you’re going.  (I am pretty sure I will be there)!

[TWHSParent]

2 hours ago, LeanderMomma said:

I’m looking forward to the full 2024 BOA schedule being released tomorrow, some possible new regionals, and more clues about bands potentially attending GN. Let us know if you’re going.  (I am pretty sure I will be there)!

Now that I live about 1.5 hours from Indianapolis, I'll most likely attend pretty much every year. So I should be there in 2024 (as I was in 2023).

[clarinetistkai05]

Updating with confirmations from Cedar Park HS and Leander HS attending Grand Nationals!

[Tubalord11]

6 minutes ago, clarinetistkai05 said:

Updating with confirmations from Cedar Park HS and Leander HS attending Grand Nationals!

🥳🥳🥳

[clarinetistkai05]

12 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said:

🥳🥳🥳

Hope Rouse goes as well for a full LISD competition, but I would understand why not.

[LeanderMomma]

44 minutes ago, clarinetistkai05 said:

Updating with confirmations from Cedar Park HS and Leander HS attending Grand Nationals!

I feel like we manifested this one!  🤣

[clarinetistkai05]

47 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

I feel like we manifested this one!  🤣

we really did, very happy!

[Samuel Culper]

On 12/20/2023 at 9:21 PM, clarinetistkai05 said:

Hope Rouse goes as well for a full LISD competition, but I would understand why not.

Full... except for Vista Ridge and Vandegrift.