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I Wayback Machined the Yellow Board to find most of these (though a few were in our own current forum archives). Still incomplete but it's a start. Apologies for the copypaste mess: 1A Area A Finals: 1 Sundown (state) 2 Forsan (state) 3 Wink (state) 4 Sudan (state) 5 Boys Ranch 6 Whiteface 7 Irion County 8 Sunray 9 Ropes 10 Smyer 1A Area A Prelims: 1 Sundown 2 Forsan 3 Sudan 4 Irion County 5 Boys Ranch 6 Ropes 7 Wink 8 Whiteface 9 Sunray 10 Smyer 11 Iraan 12 Plains 13 Seagraves 14 Loop 15 Memphis 16 New Deal 17 Farwell 18 White Deer 19 Anton 20 Olton 21 Jayton 22 O'Donnell 2A Area A Finals: Crane, Panhandle, Reagan County, Tahoka *advanced* 4A Area A Finals: Fossil Ridge, Azle, Boswell, Saginaw *advanced* 1. Azle 1,2,4,7,2 (16) (tie-break) 1. Saginaw 5,6,1,1,3 (16) 3. Boswell 2,5,7,2,4 (20) 4. Fossil Ridge 10,8,2,3,1 (24) (tie-break) 4. Springtown 3,4,3,9,5 (24) 1A Area B Finals: Holliday, Aubrey, City View *advanced* 4A Area B Prelims (unranked list of bands): Frisco The Colony Stephenville Seguin Lake Dallas Carter-Riverside Aledo Little Elm Eastern Hills Mckinney Boyd Brownwood Joshua Sherman McKinney North Birdville Western Hills Crowley Everman Centennial Arlington Heights 4A Area B Finals: Advancing (in order): 1. Sherman 2. Aledo 3. The Colony 4. Centennial Alternates: 5.Joshua 6.Birdville Remaining Finalists (no rank available): Crowley, McKinney Boyd, Western Hills, McKinney North 4A Area C Prelims 1 Poteet 2 1 1 1 1-6 2 Pearce 1 2 2 4 2-11 3 Lindale 3 3 5 2 4-17 4 Heath 6 5 3 3 3-20 5 Forney 4 7 8 5 7-31 6 North Lamar 8 6 7 6 8-35 7 Midlothian 5 8 4 8 10-35 8 Waxahachie 7 11 6 7 6-37 9 Highland Park 10 4 9 10 5-38 10 Jacksonville 9 9 11 9 11-49 11 Ennis 11 13 12 11 9-56 12 Sulphur Springs 12 10 10 13 12-57 13 West Mesquite 13 12 13 12 13-63 14 Thomas Jefferson 14 14 14 14 14-70 Finals 1 Poteet 1 1 1 1 1-5 2 Pearce 2 3 2 2 4-13 3 Lindale 5 6 4 3 3-21 4 Heath 4 5 6 5 2-22 5 Midlothian 3 2 5 6 6-22 6 Forney 7 7 3 4 5-26 7 North Lamar 6 4 7 7 7-31 Area D 1 Finals: Iola, Shiner, Santo *advanced* Area D 2A Finalists (no rankings provided): Wall *advanced to state* Clifton *advanced to state* Troy *advanced to state* Kerens *advanced to state* Academy Mason Rosebud-Lott Ballinger Rogers Brady Area D 4A Finals: 1. Hendrickson (1,1,1,2,3(8)), Connally, Vista Ridge, Dripping Springs *advanced* Alternates: 5. New Braunfels 6. Hays Area E 1A-Advancing to State: Falls City Harper Nueces Canyon Area E 2A-Advancing to State: Industrial Randolph Van Vleck Area E 4A - Advancing to State: 1. Brenham 3 2 1 2 3 (11) 2. Foster 4 4 3 1 1 (13) 3. Seven Lakes 1 1 5 4 2 (13) 4. Waller 2 3 2 3 4 (14) Other Finalists (6 finalists in total): 5. Waltrip: 5 5 4 6 5 (25) 6. Terry: 6 6 6 5 6 (29) Area F 4A Prelims: 1. Dickinson HS 2. Friendswood HS 3. Lumberton HS 4. Little Cypress-Mauriceville HS 5. Galena Park HS 6. Huntsville HS 7. Vidor HS 8. Barbers Hill HS 9. Dayton HS 10. Santa Fe HS 11. Willis HS 12. Hargrave HS 12. Montgomery HS 14. Crosby HS 15. C.E. King HS Area F 4A Finals: 1. Friendswood HS: 1 - 1- 1- 1- 2 *advanced* 2. Dickinson HS: 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 *advanced* 3. Little Cypress-Mauriceville HS: 4 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 6 *advanced* ----- 4. Galena Park HS (Alternate): 5 - 4 - 6 - 4 - 3 5. Vidor HS: 3 - 6 - 4 - 7- 4 6. Lumberton HS: 6 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 7 7. Huntsville HS: 7 - 7- 7- 5- 5 Area G 4A Finals: : 1) roma *advanced* : 2) king *advanced* : 3) boerne *advanced* : 4) alice 3, 2, 8, 9, 4 = 26 (tie)*advanced* ---- 5) Floresville 8, 9, 1, 3, 5 = 26 (tie) 6) Calallen (tie)

I mean....if Kennesaw Mountain (GA) can name their HS after this "mountain", I feel like we could come up with something here in Texas...

Late response, but I would guess the band you were thinking of was James Bowie

Still holding out for Cypress Mountain ... ...

Fun fact: Region 7 has 79 high schools within its boundaries. All 79 of them are ATSSB schools (1A-4A schools....ZERO 5A or 6A high schools). Region 6 directly west of them is slightly larger with 90 high schools. Only five are 6A and four are 5A (nine in total). Eight of these schools are located in Abilene, Odessa or Midland with one located in Wichita Falls. That one HS is called Rider HS. Rider is supposed to be in Region 7 with the other Wichita Falls ISD schools, but with them being the only TMEA school in Region 7, they elected to be in Region 6 instead with the other TMEA schools. I believe this is the only instance in Texas where an ISD is split between 2 different regions (though correct me if I'm wrong). Region 6 actually joint hosts their TMEA All-Region tryouts with Region 7 but none of the ATSSB schools in Region 7 elected to allow any of their kids to compete. I've encircled the area covered by Region 6 and 7 in red. You can even see the little gray splotch inside the blue area of Region 7. That gray splotch is Rider HS's attendance zone 😋. As you can see it's a pretty massive chunk of the entire state. Isn't it crazy that a geographic area this massive only contains five 6A high schools?

The Woodlands losing most of their August rehearsals and still managing to do as well as they did.

I'm not a Hornranker, but I know a lot of the guys who are. I won't speak on behalf of their methods, but I will say a single breakout year doesn't get you instant clout. A good year will move you up the rankings, but you're going to hit a wall when comparing that breakout season against some of the really established bands at the top. Being consistently good contest after contest, year after year is what gets you that high ranking Marcus beat TWHS at State, but they lost to TWHS at BOA SA which does carry more weight because it's a national event. So putting Marcus past TWHS probably isn't going to happen, especially when taking into account the huge gap between them at SA last year (which does factor in to the ranking). Tarpon is an anomaly due to how disconnected they are from the rank and file, which makes them harder to peg. In my opinion that lack of competing against good bands should count more against you than it currently does. I think some of the rankers are using Tarpon's 2018 ranking to determine their position more than they really should be only due to the fact that it's all we have to go on when stacking them up against the rest (aside from 2022). one could make a solid case for Tarpon being beneath both TWHS and Marcus (and even Mason, who they lost to at Nats last year), and I think it could very well end up that way if TWHS (and other TX groups) upends some of the more established Midwestern bands (who've also beaten Tarpon) this weekend. Scores have way too much relativity within their own contests to be a solid measuring stick across contests. It's a tall order to say Marcus is better than the reigning caption-sweeping GN champion Carmel because of a cross-contest score technicality. And to say Marcus is better than Hebron due to beating them at one non-BOA contest is just asking for trouble...but I don't think I need to tell you that considering the 2 schools in contention 😉. Not saying that's what you're saying....just going down the list of bands in question.

Seeing Cy-Fair, Pearland and Bridgeland sandwiched amongst TWHS, Reagan, CTJ & Bowie makes me wonder if Houston finally has some new powerhouse groups in their midst aside from just The Woodlands. We'll see...

I've heard of band directors going into programs where before/after school rehearsals were "optional" going in, and had to slowly reprogram the band into making those eventually mandatory. You can't come in and instantly demand that it all be mandatory because you'll often get massive pushback and you'll even have tons of kids quit. You have to win their favor first and then slowly introduce standards year after year. It's all about culture. I remember my freshman year at my alma mater being blown away on the first week of marching band seeing kids only a couple years older than I was basically acting like teachers and establishing a a rehearsal procedure and task-oriented goals. And the atmosphere was so positive and we had goals in mind. Rehearsals were mandatory and I attended every single one. I didn't want to miss out.

I'm reminded of 2006 where W. Charles Akins HS made it to state for the very first time since the school opened in 2000, and even went all the way to Finals in the largest classification at the time (5A) that very first year. They then placed 22nd in prelims the following cycle in 2008 (barely slipping in from Area) and then never made another appearance at state ever again. They faded completely. State Finals in '06, State Prelims in '08, Area Finals in '10, Area Prelims '12 & beyond...I admittedly don't know what happened to that program, especially considering they had the same staff in '12 as they did in '06 (at least according to the Wayback Machine), but that to me is probably the most classic example of a "breakout band".

Fixed. I was trying to remember the name of the show and remembered the compass and was like "Oh yeah! Exploration-style show, Age of Discovery". Probably would've been a good title, but BA already took that one.

Best (Execution): [Ranked] 1. Flower Mound 2016 - Leonardo's Dream 2. Carmel 2022 - Vitruvian 3. Hebron 2022 - Odyssey FM 4. Marcus 2012 - Gilded Melodies 5. Vandegrift 2019 - Aria, Queen of the Night 6. Hebron 2021 - Penstriped 7. Hebron 2015 - 360 8. Reagan 2019 - Secret World 9. Carmel 2018 - Voyage to Valhalla 10. Carmel 2017 - Serenity HM: Flower Mound 2018 - Pop - Might've made the list with another week of cleaning and a Nats appearance Hebron 2018 - Endeavor - Probably Would've made the list with cleaner visual and a Nats appearance Marcus 2007 - Botanika - Would definitely have made the list with 11 more days of cleaning and a Nats appearance on Day 12 Avon 2010 - Iconoclash - It's almost impossible for a pre-2010 non-Tx band to make a list like this bc I frankly think the best sounding Tx bands at this point were outplaying every other state almost every single year and this list prioritizes music....This year Avon was playing just well enough to compete while also marching the SNOT out of their sets to close in on this list. Favorite (To listen/watch): [Not Ranked] 1. Hebron 2021 - Penstriped 2. Claudia Taylor Johnson 2019 - The Circle of Life 3. Vista Ridge 2018 - Lost & Found 4. Hebron 2015 - 360 5. Ronald Reagan 2015 - Every(One) 6. The Woodlands 2011 - Uninvited 7. LD Bell 2010 - Honor: We Will Remember 8. Tarpon Springs 2010 - Paranormal 9. LD Bell 2008 - The Quest 10. Ronald Reagan 2002 - Journey of Man

I always recommend that whole era of LD Bell 2005-2010 to any newcomer to the scene willing to watch/listen. Rankings aside, it was some of the most beautifully written and performed music to ever grace a field. Also I think TWHS '04 might've been one of the very first BOA shows I ever watched aside from groups like Westfield, Bowie, Leander and Cedar Park whom I got to watch live in HS at games and competitions. I'd heard of bands like Winston Churchill, Spring and my senior year was the first time I heard the name "Carmel" and becoming aware of bands out of state, but I didn't watch my first marching band online video until Summer 2006. And those finalists from the '05 and '04 lineups were some of the first I watched.

I have a tuba student recently who's become quite obsessed with contras and has been bugging his band director about switching to them, so I've been inspired to sort of build a reasonably comprehensive list of Texas schools that are using them. I've combed the thread and verified all of the schools mentioned here against their 2022 competition shows and found the following schools check out as of the 2022 season: El Paso Bel Air - ✔️ Burleson - ✔️ Burleson Centennial - ✔️ Byron Nelson - ✔️ Southlake Carroll - ✔️ Conroe - ✔️ Coppell - ✔️ Hidalgo - ✔️ Keller Central - ✔️ LD Bell - ✔️ Pflugerville - ✔️ The Woodlands - ✔️ Willis - ✔️ Smithson Valley didn't check out (couldn't find a video of them marching with contras). I also went and checked every single school that attended the '22 6A State Marching contest. Only TWHS, LD Bell and Coppell used Contras, all the rest use Sousas. When I was in HS in the early 2000s I couldn't think of a single school that used them. Then The Woodlands switched to them in '08 and other schools started following suit, particularly after they won Grand Nats in 2013. I don't know if we'll ever see a broad switch to them unless one of the big dogs switch and start winning with them. But until then feel free to add some more schools that haven't been thought of yet.