2019 5A State

[chesteriop]

I feel so bad for the Roma kids, they were no doubt going to make state

[ValleyBandFanatic]

  On 10/20/2019 at 3:37 PM, chesteriop said:

I feel so bad for the Roma kids, they were no doubt going to make state

Not just state. They were going to make state finals. Without a doubt.

[MikeKyu]

  On 10/20/2019 at 2:51 PM, Tailgate88 said:

For the uneducated like me :-) can you elaborate on the allowances that BOA gives? I know there are differences. It not sure what they are. Our program is looking to make the jump to BOA next year.

UIL does not allow prerecorded music/effects to play during run time in field, BOA had no restriction. This does not include effects played before the 8 minute timer begins. UIL does not allow area boom mics to mic the entire band making it sound bigger/fuller/whatever else effect you can go for (and there's millions of options), BOA has no restriction. Soloists are still fair game to be mic'd. That's a whole different discussion that I think should be banned but we can discuss that in a different topic.

[banddad2112]

Soloists and small ensemble features are fair game for amplification.

[vbassoon]

This was their comeback year :/ I’m distraught

[LostChoirGuy]

I'm very sad for Roma.

 

It likely opens another spot for a central or north Texas band in finals.

[Lisajayes]

I'm not even in the loop for that area but that is just heartbreaking for those students..will be interesting to hear how that happened. I really question the logic of an automatic 2 rating. Why not just the penalty? Would they have still received a 1 with just the penalty deducted?

[ValleyBandFanatic]

  On 10/20/2019 at 6:37 PM, Lisajayes said:

I'm not even in the loop for that area but that is just heartbreaking for those students..will be interesting to hear how that happened. I really question the logic of an automatic 2 rating. Why not just the penalty? Would they have still received a 1 with just the penalty deducted?

They for sure would have gotten a 1 rating. But those are the rules. For how good the program was, 20 seconds more than the other bands is unfair, so I can see why an automatic 2 would happen. But they do deserve another chance, although highly unlikely.

[Samuel Culper]

Anybody know how it happened? Did they start their run late?

[principalagent]

  On 10/20/2019 at 6:37 PM, Lisajayes said:

I'm not even in the loop for that area but that is just heartbreaking for those students..will be interesting to hear how that happened. I really question the logic of an automatic 2 rating. Why not just the penalty? Would they have still received a 1 with just the penalty deducted?

At Region, judges just give a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5, without any shadow grading using a 1-100 or 1-1000 system. The only penalty available is to knock a band down a whole rating.

[MBB]

  On 10/20/2019 at 3:03 PM, ValleyBandFanatic said:

That’s what I’m thinking. I was at the competition and it seemed like there wasn’t any technical issues, or issues getting on the field. Maybe the show is just too long, but I’d imagine the directors would have addressed that.

I watched a Facebook live stream last night and noticed that Roma did not participate in the "Pass and Review" portion of Pigskin, do you happen to know why? 

[ValleyBandFanatic]

  On 10/20/2019 at 6:59 PM, MBB said:

I watched a Facebook live stream last night and noticed that Roma did not participate in the "Pass and Review" portion of Pigskin, do you happen to know why?

They probably decided it was best to go home early. The directors knew in advance that they didn’t advance and probably didn’t want the kids to hear the word “Roma, division... 2”. I don’t blame them for not wanting to go.

[MBB]

Just another quick question, when does the clock start? Is it when the band begins playing or after the announcer says they may begin their performance?  

[ViewFromTheBox]

Per what I can find on the region contest rules: 

 

 

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(D) Each band will be announced with 45 seconds remaining on the 5-minute clock. The beginning of their announcement will indicate that the performance time will begin in 45 seconds.

 

(E) The actual timing and adjudication for the show will begin at the end of the five minutes.

 

I'll have to pay more attention next time to see what actually happens.

[dbmb]

From my understanding on the time: Bands have 5 minutes to set up and then 8 minutes to perform and I believe 2 to get off? So once the 5 minute set up begins, once the 5 is up, the 8 minutes automatically begin. There is no gap in time. Seem less.

[itzy8103]

I believe my band got penalized too

[dbmb]

  On 10/20/2019 at 7:01 PM, ValleyBandFanatic said:

I didn’t notice anything wrong up until I saw the clock at the end. No clue what happened.

 

It’s interesting because sharyland went over the time by 3 or 4 seconds as well, but they ended up with a 1 rating

They went over as well??

[mteggatz]

  On 10/18/2019 at 3:10 PM, outofstepmarcher#7 said:

Official Predictions in no order: 

 

Cedar Park 

Dripping Springs 

Wakeland 

Rouse 

Highland Park 

Poteet 

Friendswood 

Forney 

Aledo 

Lone Star 

 

Groups that could sneak in: Colleyville Heritage, Southwest, The colony

 

Group that will surprise people: Lopez HS (Top 15 this year) 

 

Group first time at state/will impress people: Midlothian HS (Top 15 this year) 

Wylie East already beat Lone Star this year

[RGVBands]

  On 10/20/2019 at 7:01 PM, ValleyBandFanatic said:

I didn’t notice anything wrong up until I saw the clock at the end. No clue what happened.

 

It’s interesting because sharyland went over the time by 3 or 4 seconds as well, but they ended up with a 1 rating

This information is incorrect. Sharyland's last chord ended with approximately 5-8s left on the clock. To claim that they went overtime with no proof is spreading false rumors about a band that I'm sure has put many hours into their show. 

[RGVBands]

  On 10/20/2019 at 6:48 PM, Samuel Culper said:

Anybody know how it happened? Did they start their run late?

It didn't seem like anything went wrong, but who knows, a lot can be happening behind the scenes that they might not have been able to control. Let's hope that their appeal to UIL to get a second chance is successful, because those kiddos deserve much more than a division 2 at pigskin.

[ValleyBandFanatic]

  On 10/20/2019 at 8:47 PM, RGVBands said:

This information is incorrect. Sharyland's last chord ended with approximately 5-8s left on the clock. To claim that they went overtime with no proof is spreading false rumors about a band that I'm sure has put many hours into their show.

I believe I saw them go over time, although I probably misread the clock. Haha, my eyes are not what they used to be back in the day. 100% deserved of a 1 rating. No intent of spreading any false or derogatory information. My apologies.

[youcansound]

Unbelievable! State finalist worthy band is knocked down a rating! Unlikely UIL does it but fingers crossed for an appeal.

[banddad2112]

Perhaps that the timer was not started properly at the start of their performance?

[ValleyBandFanatic]

Everything seemed normal from the stands. There wasn’t anything wrong with the clock seemingly. I think they are just trying to sway UIL to allow them to advance due to the magnitude of the ruling, considering they for sure would have made finals. It’s going to be very tough though

[banddad2112]

I don’t think that argument holds up. The only thing that I could see them change it over would be if Roma could prove the clock was started incorrectly.