2018 6A State

[Magma31651]

It's never too early to talk about band. Predictions?

[Danpod]

If Vandy is anywhere near as good as 2017, they will medal.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 11/25/2017 at 9:27 PM, Danpod said:

If Vandy is anywhere near as good as 2017, they will medal.

I hope they continue on their current path and become ONE of the first Leander ISD 6A bands to medal in state.

[LeanderMomma]

*groan* I swear I don't spend 24/7 on this forum even tho it would appear that way! :/

[principalagent]

  On 11/25/2017 at 9:29 PM, LeanderMomma said:

I hope they continue on their current path and become ONE of the first Leander ISD 6A bands to medal in state.

 

Cedar Park did it in 2004! But of course it was only 5A then. But Vandy would be the first in 6A. Which, I'll also add, is something I would put a decent bit of money on.

[LostChoirGuy]

Which bands tend to do better at UIL than boa events? I know that in years past Keller was a more UIL focused group. I only mention them because I am more familiar with their history than others. Who else?

[Bandwoww]

  On 11/26/2017 at 12:08 AM, LostChoirGuy said:

 

Which bands tend to do better at UIL than boa events? I know that in years past Keller was a more UIL focused group. I only mention them because I am more familiar with their history than others. Who else?

LD Bell

[ChristopherRoden]

Who do we think will do better in 2018 than in 2016 and who do we think might be lower? Is there a possibility that some bands who typically make it, dont make it this year?

[Danpod]

  On 11/25/2017 at 9:30 PM, LeanderMomma said:

*groan* I swear I don't spend 24/7 on this forum even tho it would appear that way! :/

 

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[bingogooberman]

I think there’s a very good chance we’ll see the same top 5 (flower mound, Hebron, Marcus, vandegrift and Keller) as they stick out to me as the most UIL friendly programs in the state. I could see CTJ spoiling that top 5 ala 2014 if they’re as polished as they were this year. I also think there’s a good chance we’ll see Bowie back in finals.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 11/26/2017 at 5:07 PM, Danpod said:

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

Oh shut up.

[Dog885]

  On 11/26/2017 at 12:08 AM, LostChoirGuy said:

Which bands tend to do better at UIL than boa events? I know that in years past Keller was a more UIL focused group. I only mention them because I am more familiar with their history than others. Who else?

I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all?

[northtexasbandfan]

I think there's a decent chance that either Flower Mound, Hebron or Marcus will win and at least one of those three will also medal. A medal sweep like 2016 would not be the most shocking thing ever, though the competition does just seem to get more and more intense, and Vandy, Keller, Reagan and Leander are certainly in the hunt. Will be VERY interesting to see how this contrasts to BOA San Antonio just a few days before it.

[Jeffrey L. Gorman]

  On 11/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Dog885 said:

I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all?

The main difference is that UIL is 60% Music and 40% Marching and Man.  Visual is not a caption under UIL.  The fact is that a Non Corps style Band could not be judged fairly in BOA contests. In 2016 Spring Hill and China Springs both made the 4A Finals at UIL. In the Finals they received higher M&M Scores than most of the Corps Style Bands.   This made many Corps style Directors angry.  It seems that they did not like having a Band that did precision drills get a good M&M Score.  If you watch the DVD of the Contest, both Spring Hill and China Spring were crisper in their drills than the Corps Style Bands. While most Bands in TX are Corps style, UIL is tasked to judge all types of Bands fairly. The current BOA way of judging clearly discriminates against, Military Style, Show Style and Big Ten Style Bands. For those who disagree, please look at the fact that in 2016, the Florida Marching Band Coalition agreed that the scores for Show Bands under the criteria they had in place was unfair.  They now have different score sheets for Show Bands in Contests. That is an honest appraisal.  When BOA first started their was a variety of Bands that entered. Once they saw that unless you were corps style, you could not win. They walked.  UIL has a responsibility that BOA(which is a Private Organization does not have) of making the playing field as equal as possible. 

[Omega]

  On 11/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Dog885 said:

 

I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all?

I mean while their will be an argument about military vs. Corps style at the 5A and 6A level you will see all corps bands in finals at this point. Notably shows can only be 8 minutes long, tend to use less electronics (that is relative of course) and have less props. But, many programs at the 6A level will give you a show that is not stretching the bounds of marching band on a UIL year like they might for a BOA year.

[Xenon]

Get your calendars out, because the dates for 2018 State are published!

 

Monday, November 5th - 6A Prelims

Tuesday, November 6th - 2A Prelims, 6A Finals, 2A Finals

Wednesday, November 7th - 4A Prelims and Finals

 

2A has made the transition over to even numbered years, so now we have all the Even Classes on Even Years and all the Odd Classes on Odd Years.

 

Also, with 6A being Monday/Tuesday instead of Tuesday/Wednesday, it will be easier/cheaper for bands to stay-over from BOA San Antonio and will also give more room for traveling to Grand Nationals for those that choose to do both.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 12/6/2017 at 3:42 AM, Xenon said:

Get your calendars out, because the dates for 2018 State are published!

 

Monday, November 5th - 6A Prelims

Tuesday, November 6th - 2A Prelims, 6A Finals, 2A Finals

Wednesday, November 7th - 4A Prelims and Finals

 

2A has made the transition over to even numbered years, so now we have all the Even Classes on Even Years and all the Odd Classes on Odd Years.

 

Also, with 6A being Monday/Tuesday instead of Tuesday/Wednesday, it will be easier/cheaper for bands to stay-over from BOA San Antonio and will also give more room for traveling to Grand Nationals for those that choose to do both.

I'm so glad to see these changes to the schedule for 6A!

 

See y'all in about 9.5 months.

[Danpod]

Definitely weird to have 6A at the beginning of the State contests, but this makes a ton of sense and it is a clear concession by UIL.  

 

  On 12/6/2017 at 4:15 AM, LeanderMomma said:

I'm so glad to see these changes to the schedule for 6A!

See y'all in about 9.5 months.

 

BRING ME SOME KETTLE CORN!!!!

[MadisonBandMan1]

  On 12/6/2017 at 7:44 PM, Danpod said:

Definitely weird to have 6A at the beginning of the State contests, but this makes a ton of sense and it is a clear concession by UIL.

 

 

 

BRING ME SOME KETTLE CORN!!!!

 

 

 

Hey are you going to keep doing any more podcasts,like campfire stories or is it just for marching season?

[Danpod]

  On 12/6/2017 at 11:28 PM, MadisonBandMan1 said:

Hey are you going to keep doing any more podcasts,like campfire stories or is it just for marching season?

 

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.

[LeanderMomma]

  On 12/6/2017 at 7:44 PM, Danpod said:

Definitely weird to have 6A at the beginning of the State contests, but this makes a ton of sense and it is a clear concession by UIL.

Concession. Is that a Freudian slip?

[Danpod]

  On 12/7/2017 at 12:17 AM, LeanderMomma said:

Concession. Is that a Freudian slip?

 

Absolutely not.

 

*cuts to me yelling at my food on the TxBands Facebook page*

[herbaflerb]

  On 11/28/2017 at 2:38 AM, Dog885 said:

I've always wondered, how can a show be more for UIL than BOA? I know that all UIL judges are in the box, but is that all?

 

Forgive me if someone's already responded, but here's my answer.

 

UIL scores shows based on musical and visual merit. This means shows with nice clean lines (visual) and clean technique (both marching and musical) score better. So when schools are in their state year, they tend to have more "boring" shows, as opposed to years like this (a BOA year if you will). As the 6A schools didn't have state this year, shows were "cooler", AKA more of a BOA show.

 

While BOA values music and visual, if you look at the scoring sheet GE has a much bigger chunk of the final score than UIL considers. BOA shows will have big gaudy props (see: CTJ or Tarpon (even though they're not Texan)), really neat ensembles (Reagan), or neat uniforms (Flower Mound). UIL doesn't really care about this.

[LostChoirGuy]

Unpopular opinion: while I enjoy BOA years more because of the diversity of shows, I prefer UIL show design to the gaudi (get it?) BOA props and designs. Shows with less clutter are way more interesting to me.

[Magma31651]

  On 12/7/2017 at 1:21 AM, Danpod said:

Absolutely not.

*cuts to me yelling at my food on the TxBands Facebook page*

I think it's time to bring out the tranquilizer