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  On 10/22/2019 at 3:29 AM, TheTuba said:

LD bell made a 89.2 in St.Louis finals

I know its prohibitive to compare scores without context to other regionals, but that still implies a high level of execution, especially if the scores are around 1 point away from Blue Springs. No offense to Rouse or any other of the lower 7 listed, but LD bell has a strong strong chance this year, to not only make finals, but place higher than 14th like last year.

and too add on to that, with the crazy high scores in SA every year, Bell still isnt top of the lower 7. Maybe still bottom of the lower 7 maybe even a buddle band. Reason I say this is cuz i think last year or the year before, the lowest finalist band made just over 90. Just to keep that in mind!
Posted

2017 bell broke 90 missed finals. same year vista ridge broke 88 missed finals. 2018 bowie, prosper , timber creek broke 89 missed finals.

 

very competitive. scary when an 88 or a 90 does not put you in finals.

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 2:31 PM, natertater21000 said:

We're another week closer so here is an ordered top 14 for SA.

 

1. Reagan (GE, Vis) this will probably go down as the single best Reagan show of the 2010's.

 

2.Flowermound. Extremely solid, will probably average a close second in most captions. It's my personal favorite show, that closer is simply incredible.

 

3.Vandegrift. While I'd love to see an LISD south band break through and finally grab a silver medal, I think bronze is where they'll end up. This show is a perfect successor to their beethoven show in 17 and I expect the same level of success.

 

4. Hebron (music). What else can be said? They play incredibly well and I fully expect them to clean up visually between SA and GN just like in 2015.  I'm not sure they'll medal in SA but they will be in the hunt for the eagle at GN in my opinion.

 

5. Claudia taylor johnson. Okay, this one was really tough. There are four bands I could see in this 5th place spot but if I had to pick one it'd be ctj. Ctj has been in the top 5 at SA since I belive 2012 (any ctj peeps feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) and I just don't see that consistency stopping now.

 

6 Leander. I really love the show design as usual and the music is probably the most difficult and we'll performed they've ever had. I expect some redesigns from them in the coming weeks all the way up to nats. I really am unsure where they'll end up though.

 

7 Vista ridge. I half expect them to pass leander and ctj again to snag that fifth spot but I'm not quite sure they'll be clean enough this time. Could easily be higher than this.

 

8. The Woodlands. This is consistently the hardest band for me to place. Their show is unique and loads of fun. I have them at 8th in SA but would not be shocked to see them do what RR did in 2013.

 

9. Marcus. They are one of the most consistent performimg bands in existence. I don't expect to see them out of finals anytime soon.

 

10. LD Bell. I think their St. Louis performance speaks for itself, really strong across the board. I'm glad bell is here to stay once more.

 

11. Westwood. Huge breakout year for them! Some may be surprised that I have them in before some other programs but I think they are running with the hype of their success. The Sky is the limit!

 

12. James Bowie. I'm not sure I would have had them in if not for their recent performance at Waco. If they can keep up a high level of improvement they could easily secure a spot.

 

13. Keller. I have them for sure in finals due to how consistent they've been for the past few years. They sound great and the visual will come with time.

 

14. Okay so kind of a cop-out but I can't confidently give this spot to a single band yet. Obviously Cedar Ridge is the most likely pick as they have consistent late season success, but it's hard to count out bands on the rise like Rouse. Then there is Cedar Park fighting hard to get back in as well. Too close to call at the moment.

 

Two other small predictions

 

The first 97+ will be recorded at SA finals

 

All 14 bands in finals will break 90

CTJ has placed 5th or better at BOA SA since 2011

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 2:31 PM, natertater21000 said:

We're another week closer so here is an ordered top 14 for SA.

 

1. Reagan (GE, Vis) this will probably go down as the single best Reagan show of the 2010's.

 

2.Flowermound. Extremely solid, will probably average a close second in most captions. It's my personal favorite show, that closer is simply incredible.

 

3.Vandegrift. While I'd love to see an LISD south band break through and finally grab a silver medal, I think bronze is where they'll end up. This show is a perfect successor to their beethoven show in 17 and I expect the same level of success.

 

4. Hebron (music). What else can be said? They play incredibly well and I fully expect them to clean up visually between SA and GN just like in 2015.  I'm not sure they'll medal in SA but they will be in the hunt for the eagle at GN in my opinion.

 

5. Claudia taylor johnson. Okay, this one was really tough. There are four bands I could see in this 5th place spot but if I had to pick one it'd be ctj. Ctj has been in the top 5 at SA since I belive 2012 (any ctj peeps feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) and I just don't see that consistency stopping now.

 

6 Leander. I really love the show design as usual and the music is probably the most difficult and we'll performed they've ever had. I expect some redesigns from them in the coming weeks all the way up to nats. I really am unsure where they'll end up though.

 

7 Vista ridge. I half expect them to pass leander and ctj again to snag that fifth spot but I'm not quite sure they'll be clean enough this time. Could easily be higher than this.

 

8. The Woodlands. This is consistently the hardest band for me to place. Their show is unique and loads of fun. I have them at 8th in SA but would not be shocked to see them do what RR did in 2013.

 

9. Marcus. They are one of the most consistent performimg bands in existence. I don't expect to see them out of finals anytime soon.

 

10. LD Bell. I think their St. Louis performance speaks for itself, really strong across the board. I'm glad bell is here to stay once more.

 

11. Westwood. Huge breakout year for them! Some may be surprised that I have them in before some other programs but I think they are running with the hype of their success. The Sky is the limit!

 

12. James Bowie. I'm not sure I would have had them in if not for their recent performance at Waco. If they can keep up a high level of improvement they could easily secure a spot.

 

13. Keller. I have them for sure in finals due to how consistent they've been for the past few years. They sound great and the visual will come with time.

 

14. Okay so kind of a cop-out but I can't confidently give this spot to a single band yet. Obviously Cedar Ridge is the most likely pick as they have consistent late season success, but it's hard to count out bands on the rise like Rouse. Then there is Cedar Park fighting hard to get back in as well. Too close to call at the moment.

 

Two other small predictions

 

The first 97+ will be recorded at SA finals

 

All 14 bands in finals will break 90

 

I agree with most of this list. the 3-8 spots certainly have the most intrigue to me. I do think Hebron/Vandy have the best shots at taking 3/4 in some order, but 5-8 is a bit of a tossup to me, which is unfortunate, since one of those bands will fall under the top half/bottom half line in finals. It's extra hard to pin down since 5 of the 6 in that that 3-8 range are our GN attendees. While i would never hope for VR to be the odd one out, seeing our 5 top dogs back to back to back would make for a riveting finals, and an awesome preview for Indianapolis.

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So with the change in schedule, it appears Cedar Ridge is moved from panel 1 to panel 2. To account for that I am updating my panel predictions:

 

My top 5 predictions for panel 1:
Ronald Reagan

Claudia Taylor Johnson

Flower Mound

The Woodlands

James Bowie

 

Top 5 for panel 2:

Vandegrift

Leander

Vista Ridge

Hebron

LD Bell

 

The next 4:

Keller (panel 1)

Cedar Ridge (panel 2)

Marcus (panel 2)

Westwood (panel 2)

 

Just out:

Cedar Park (panel 2)

Westlake (panel 2)

Rouse (panel 1)

Coppell (panel 1)

 

It is going to be so close between these bands to make finals.

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 2:31 PM, natertater21000 said:

We're another week closer so here is an ordered top 14 for SA.

 

Two other small predictions

 

The first 97+ will be recorded at SA finals

 

All 14 bands in finals will break 90

 

Another thing I think we will see is the "Next 10" (places 15-24 from prelims) will have scored high enough to have made finals at any other Regional or Super Regional including St. Louis or Indy and maybe even GN.

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Here’s my prediction after Waco and St Louis. I ordered the bands but also put a range I think they could fall under. Also, I understand that the placement ranges don’t make sense when compared to each other. This was HARD!

 

1.Reagan (1-3) - Reagan will medal. This show is too clean and well designed not to. Enough said.

 

2.FloMo (1-5) - They end their season here as well. There’s not enough evidence to confirm a medal lock, but it will be likely.

 

3.Vandegrift (2-5) - Will likely be the cleanest of the Nats attendees. I personally don’t see this show winning but a medal is very well deserved.

 

4.Hebron (1-5) - Won music and visual in prelims last season and were not even clean. Their difficulty may push them into a medal slot but I have a feeling that they will be peaking when they need to peak. Has been top 5 for many years.

 

5.CTJ (1-5) - Again, their difficulty may push them into a medal or even championship spot but I hope they peak later. Would be surprised to see them finish outside top 5.

 

6.Leander (3-8) - Will be interesting to see how the judges perceive this show. Could be like 2016 where they medaled but I’m leaning more towards something in the middle of that range, therefore I put them 6th.

 

7.TWHS (3-8) - Could pull a 2016 and medal like Leander. It’s definitely possible as I think the GE could be very very strong. Recent results point to them being on the line between top and bottom half. Again, another band that shouldn’t be peaking here and also has a history for taking their time to get clean.

 

8.Vista Ridge (5-9) - The show isn’t as magical as Lost and Found, but no one should expect it to be. They are an easy lock for finals but might have a harder time breaking into the top half this year (which they just managed to do in prelims last year).

 

9.Keller (8-14) - Big range on this one. Extremely close to top half in prelims last year and has made top 10 (actually top 9) the past 2 years (and in prelims in 2016). If they are clean, I don’t see this show finishing outside of the top 10. each year they add more and more difficulty.

 

10.James Bowie (9 -14) - After some mediocre early season results (for their standards), their Waco showing was very promising. I don’t think the show has as high of a ceiling as Vista or Keller, but their finals chances are looking really good.

 

11.Cedar Ridge (10-14) - Consistent finalist (except being alternate in 2016). Would probably be surprising to see them miss finals. I’ve noticed that their visual program is usually much safer than their music.

 

12.Marcus (8-14) - Another very large range. They will obviously be very clean and haven’t missed finals in forever. In my opinion, the show lacks the content and difficulty of the ones I placed above, but they are a finalist until they’re not.

 

13.LD Bell (11-14) - Bell usually struggles to peak at San Antonio. Snuck into finals last year. This is probably one of their better shows in recent memory but for me it still lacks the difficulty and content of bands I expect to see in the top 10. I think the show was maxing out at St. Louis but still has a good chance to make SA finals.

 

Fighting for finals (11-14) - Westwood, Westlake, and Cedar Park.

 

Westwood’s show is flashy and fun but feels like a Vista 2017 to me in the sense that the the band is about to have a breakout moment but maybe needs another year before cracking into San Antonio finals. If they don’t make finals, it will be close.

 

Cedar Park is definitely having a better year and probably won’t finish 18th this season. The show seems more designed towards UIL success meaning that in my opinion it is missing more exposed playing especially in the brass.

 

I don’t have much to say about Westlake. Their finals appearance last year was well deserved and it would be again this year.

 

Wild Card - Vista Murrieta - I’m just scared and excited. Who knows what they will bring to San Antonio this year.

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 5:34 PM, TWHSParent said:

So with the change in schedule, it appears Cedar Ridge is moved from panel 1 to panel 2. To account for that I am updating my panel predictions:

 

My top 5 predictions for panel 1:

Ronald Reagan

Claudia Taylor Johnson

Flower Mound

The Woodlands

James Bowie

 

Top 5 for panel 2:

Vandegrift

Leander

Vista Ridge

Hebron

LD Bell

 

The next 4:

Keller (panel 1)

Cedar Ridge (panel 2)

Marcus (panel 2)

Westwood (panel 2)

 

Just out:

Cedar Park (panel 2)

Westlake (panel 2)

Rouse (panel 1)

Coppell (panel 1)

 

It is going to be so close between these bands to make finals.

On paper, your top 13 seem like finals locks, but it would blow my mind if one or two of them didn't make finals. That being said that 14th place spot is going to be tuff to get. 

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 7:28 PM, ethanshaw74 said:

On paper, your top 13 seem like finals locks, but it would blow my mind if one or two of them didn't make finals. That being said that 14th place spot is going to be tuff to get. 

 

Yeah, and those lists aren't in order either, just putting my thoughts together on the panels, and who I think are the strongest on each one, etc. Then break down to top half/bottom half, and then finally get to a ranking. Oof.

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 8:25 PM, TWHSParent said:

 It went up. Main change is Robinson dropping and Forney being added, therefore Cedar Ridge was pushed onto panel 2. They were previously at the end of the first block and on panel 1.

Ah ok I see, thank you

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 9:15 PM, DallasFan said:

Weiss is AAA now? They haven't been to any BOA shows this year yet so I couldn't find that info. Thought for sure with Rouse moving up to AAA they would win AA.

Weiss was AA because of not having seniors, so I'm assuming that the senior class will push them over to AAA. They could still be AA, however.

Posted

One thing about this contest that's gotten me interested is how many of the usual finalists have had a bit of a competitive drought from the beginning of the season. CTJ, FloMo, Hebron, Cedar Ridge, Marcus and Vista Ridge (I know they just competed at Midland, but they were kinda isolated from other potential finalists at this contest) are particular ones that I'm interested to see here, placement-wise.

Posted
  On 10/22/2019 at 11:54 PM, FaultLineBlues said:

One thing about this contest that's gotten me interested is how many of the usual finalists have had a bit of a competitive drought from the beginning of the season. CTJ, FloMo, Hebron, Cedar Ridge, Marcus and Vista Ridge (I know they just competed at Midland, but they were kinda isolated from other potential finalists at this contest) are particular ones that I'm interested to see here, placement-wise.

Hebron, Marcus, and Keller will all be competing against each other this coming weekend at the Duncanville Marching Invitational, so that competition will be a good preview for San Antonio.

Posted
  On 10/23/2019 at 12:56 AM, BandFan59 said:

Hebron, Marcus, and Keller will all be competing against each other this coming weekend at the Duncanville Marching Invitational, so that competition will be a good preview for San Antonio.

It'll nice to be see where their shows are, but the sheets and scoring are totally different so things could still flip around

Posted

After watching Flower Mound and Hebron's UIL performances, I really think this is Reagan's contest to lose. (I kind of thought that last year, too, though, and look what happened.) I actually caught myself preferring Hebron's show over Flower Mound's at first, but once I got to the end of Flower Mound's show, I conceded that Flower Mound's was more effective and was cleaner visually. FM isn't taking on a visual program as difficult as some of their competitors, but it's very clean and very elegant, as usual. Hebron is sounding a lot better, which is great. I was a little disappointed at how little movement there is in the opener when all that super-impressive technical playing happens. The music is so kinetic there, but the visual is static. It sort of reminds me of how they parked and played during their ballad last year. I think the visual could be spruced up a little. Anyway, I'm looking forward to watching the closer for the first time at SA.

 

I feel like Hebron could be more of a challenge for Vandegrift in the top 3 than I previously thought. CTJ remains a giant wild card. I don't know what will happen with them. I'm expecting really significant improvements. TWHS and Leander are the two that I'm not totally convinced will push into the top 3 this year. TWHS has probably my favorite content of any Texas show this year, but after watching a recent video, I'm not sure it will be polished enough, or have enough "moments" to put it over the edge. Leander's great, but the show is a little too reminiscent of the Churchill's '03 production for me. I doubt many other observers will have a similar complaint, but still. That said, I'd be surprised if either group gets booted out of the top half this year. I know Vista Ridge made a splash last year, and they're great this year, but the show is significantly weaker, both in terms of content and performance. And all the other threats, like LD Bell, Keller, James Bowie, etc. -- they all have fine shows, but I don't think fine will be enough to crack the top half here. We'll see. Only a couple more weeks to go!

Posted

It is very interesting, CTJ and Cedar Ridge tend to sit out mid season till San Antonio making them unpredictable. Evidence proves however that they always farewell at San Antonio. They never had any stalls in scoring proving that they are still a threat. 

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