gregorydf01 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bad.robot said: Just found this in section 1107 (state competition). Performance regulations as listed under Section 1105 shall apply to the state marching band contest with the following exception: Any band that leaves the field in less than five minutes or fails to complete its performance in eight minutes shall be disqualified. Thanks and I stand corrected. Just also found that although It refers to 1105 for State it does say disqualification."Performance regulations as listed under Section 1105 shall apply to the state marching band contest with the following exception: Any band that leaves the field in less than five minutes or fails to complete its performance in eight minutes shall be disqualified." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubapop Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bad.robot said: Just found this in section 1107 (state competition). Performance regulations as listed under Section 1105 shall apply to the state marching band contest with the following exception: Any band that leaves the field in less than five minutes or fails to complete its performance in eight minutes shall be disqualified. Will they actually do it though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave609 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daytanight said: A parent just text me and confirmed Waxahachie was DQed. Her daughter did the flute solo. That's on the director for not starting them on time. Terrible way to go out... That sucks :(. I can't imagine how they must feel right now. Tubalord11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tubalord11 Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Daytanight said: A parent just text me and confirmed Waxahachie was DQed. Her daughter did the flute solo. That's on the director for not starting them on time. Terrible way to go out... If this is true I feel beyond bad for them. they were probably looking at state finals…this is just horrible! I hate how strict UIL is with timing, hoping they reverse it 🤞 Parkwoodmom, AWF2014, Band4Life22 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyazuu Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Daytanight said: A parent just text me and confirmed Waxahachie was DQed. Her daughter did the flute solo. That's on the director for not starting them on time. Terrible way to go out... Oh my gosh that's heartbreaking 😧 Tubalord11 and Dallas Hobbs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TxBlueBariXD Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Daytanight said: A parent just text me and confirmed Waxahachie was DQed. Her daughter did the flute solo. That's on the director for not starting them on time. Terrible way to go out... The UIL needs to revise that rule immediately. How are you going to just shut these kids season down like that for a minor infraction? That’s a bad look. Miyazuu, Dallas Hobbs, TXguy512 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TxBlueBari08 said: The UIL needs to revise that rule immediately. How are you going to just shut these kids season down like that for a minor infraction? That’s a bad look. ^^^ Parkwoodmom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bad.robot Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: ^^^ But it is a rule that every director knows. ReveriesOp24, Samuel Culper, Tubalord11 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balumni2023 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 I can't even imagine how heartbreaking it must be for those students to give a solid performance and find out they got disqualified for being a few seconds over. UIL needs to definitely be more lenient! Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dallas Hobbs Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Daytanight said: A parent just text me and confirmed Waxahachie was DQed. Her daughter did the flute solo. That's on the director for not starting them on time. Terrible way to go out... That rule is honestly archaic and callous. A disqualification for going over by a few seconds? I understand that judges want things to be done in a timely manner but for Christ sake, have some sympathy! The penalty should be way less severe TxBlueBariXD, Tubalord11 and Parkwoodmom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TxBlueBariXD Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bad.robot said: But it is a rule that every director knows. Whether it is or not, the program should have the opportunity to appeal the decision. That’s the type of response you would expect to receive for cheating or something of the sort. Miyazuu, Parkwoodmom and Band4Life22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetliner Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Sorry Round Rock, the lights in the back are a detractor. Just let it be the backdrop for that fantastic show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad.robot Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, Dallas Hobbs said: That rule is honestly archaic and callous. A disqualification for going over by a few seconds? I understand that judges want things to be done in a timely manner but for Christ sake, have some sympathy! The penalty should be way less severe I agree but how do you do it when the UIL scoring system is a ranking? Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss74 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, balumni2023 said: I can't even imagine how heartbreaking it must be for those students to give a solid performance and find out they got disqualified for being a few seconds over. UIL needs to definitely be more lenient! until UIL goes to a scoring system that isnt an ordinal they will not have a way to assess penalties. BOA deducts tenths of points but the way that UIL does it that wont work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miyazuu Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 To have your season ended by just going over 3 seconds is definitely a shot in the heart. It's very unfair to DQ a band over an incredibly minor overtime. I feel for the students, how terrible. Dallas Hobbs, Tubalord11 and Band4Life22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TxBlueBariXD Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 We’re talking about 3 seconds. Not 3 minutes. 3 seconds. It took more than 3 seconds to type 3 seconds ! Parkwoodmom, Tubalord11, Band4Life22 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tubalord11 Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daytanight said: The Waxahachie Director spoke with UIL and the DQ is being reviewed... maybe they give them the benefit of doubt... who knows... Praying the reverse it!!! Give these kids a break! gregorydf01, Dallas Hobbs and TxBlueBariXD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ViewFromTheBox Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TxBlueBari08 said: The UIL needs to revise that rule immediately. How are you going to just shut these kids season down like that for a minor infraction? That’s a bad look. First off, this situation definitely sucks, and my heart goes out to the Waxahachie kids. But a rule is a rule, and it has to be enforced. Band directors know this. Since we're in football season as well, how is this any different than a kid committing an obvious penalty, like pass interference in the end zone, that effectively ends their season? And that happens a lot. I agree that the UIL should look at that rule (and frankly how their contests are scored entirely) in the offseason, but you have to enforce the rules that everyone is competing by. I guarantee that no UIL official wants to have to make that decision. BMBDad, Karma_Savior, celesta and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tubapop Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 This is on the directors, not the uil and certainly not the kids. ViewFromTheBox, Band4Life22, celesta and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFNDOWBFAN Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Daytanight said: The Waxahachie Director spoke with UIL and the DQ is being reviewed... maybe they give them the benefit of doubt... who knows... Did Lovejoy get overturned? Don't think they did at Region....sad...unfortunate....heartbreaking....but if a violation was made.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkwoodmom Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 They’re only hurting the kids…after a season of hard work. 👿. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, tubapop said: This is on the directors, not the uil and certainly not the kids. This, 100%. If you're going to have a rule, you enforce it. Otherwise, it isn't a rule. If there was some logistical interference that delayed their start, something related to the facility itself or restricting the band from starting their setup (which is all under UIL control) I see that as a basis for appeal. Short of that, I got nothing. Howdy08 and ViewFromTheBox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad.robot Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, ViewFromTheBox said: First off, this situation definitely sucks, and my heart goes out to the Waxahachie kids. But a rule is a rule, and it has to be enforced. Band directors know this. Since we're in football season as well, how is this any different than a kid committing an obvious penalty, like pass interference in the end zone, that effectively ends their season? And that happens a lot. I agree that the UIL should look at that rule (and frankly how their contests are scored entirely) in the offseason, but you have to enforce the rules that everyone is competing by. I guarantee that no UIL official wants to have to make that decision. it’s a rule everyone plays by. Many shows end 15-30 seconds early to provide some cushion. By pushing the show to 8 minutes, it’s a risk/reward. If it’s not enforced, they get the benefit of extra show elements that they get judged on. Samuel Culper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxBlueBariXD Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, ViewFromTheBox said: First off, this situation definitely sucks, and my heart goes out to the Waxahachie kids. But a rule is a rule, and it has to be enforced. Band directors know this. Since we're in football season as well, how is this any different than a kid committing an obvious penalty, like pass interference in the end zone, that effectively ends their season? And that happens a lot. I agree that the UIL should look at that rule (and frankly how their contests are scored entirely) in the offseason, but you have to enforce the rules that everyone is competing by. I guarantee that no UIL official wants to have to make that decision. The difference is the kids didn’t commit a penalty themselves; as well any football coach will admit to you straightforward that a game isn’t won or lost off of one penalty. There are better infractions to decide upon than DQ-ing a band for 3 seconds exiting the field. That’s why I stated the rule needs to be revised to be more reasonable. Dallas Hobbs and Parkwoodmom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandDad4 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 That sucks, but rules are rules and what is the point if we don't follow the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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