UIL Area C 6A

[jmartin1056]

I wasn’t super impressed with Prosper, but I thought they could’ve been good enough to make it. Kinda stunned that Sachse was 4th, but loved their show!

[MBBandMama]

I’m really happy for Wylie. They were so excited. I’ve seen them in a few comps now and this was well deserved. 

[MBBandMama]

All the kids mingling at the end put such a smile on my face. Such good sportsmanship, congratulating and lifting each other up, regardless of whether they advanced or not. Loved it 😍 

[slowbrass]

I’m dying for some recaps over here

[Origin]

Wow Flo Mo and Hebron were as close as it gets in both prelims and finals! Hebron actually won prelims (how many times does this have to happen 😩). Marcus 3rd across the board. 
 

Prosper fell from 4th to 7th  it was super close 

[Vidal28]

https://www.uiltexas.org/music/marching-band/area
Wow, much less of a headache finding recaps than I thought it would be, awesome🎉

[littlejaw]

So is top 3 for state CTJ, Flower Mound, and Hebron now?

[CTJBandPops]

  On 10/31/2021 at 1:47 PM, littlejaw said:

So is top 3 for state CTJ, Flower Mound, and Hebron now?

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don't count out Vista Ridge - impressive wins over Vandy in both prelims and finals

[MBBandMama]

  On 10/31/2021 at 5:54 AM, Vidal28 said:

https://www.uiltexas.org/music/marching-band/area
Wow, much less of a headache finding recaps than I thought it would be, awesome🎉

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Newbie question here…do the judges in each category look at different components of that category? What I mean is, in Marching, does Judge 1 look at, let’s say, band formation and Judge 2 look at color guard? And then the same in Music…each judges look at a different component of musicianship? I hope my question makes sense. 

[TWHSParent]

  On 10/31/2021 at 5:47 PM, MBBandMama said:

Newbie question here…do the judges in each category look at different components of that category? What I mean is, in Marching, does Judge 1 look at, let’s say, band formation and Judge 2 look at color guard? And then the same in Music…each judges look at a different component of musicianship? I hope my question makes sense. 

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Same sheets for each judge within category. So they are all looking for the same things.

[MBBandMama]

  On 10/31/2021 at 6:00 PM, TWHSParent said:

Same sheets for each judge within category. So they are all looking for the same things.

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Thanks. I was curious, since the rankings sometimes vary so much from  judges to judge. 

[TWHSParent]

I think part of what drives the variances is that, while they are looking for the same things, they aren't synchronized where they are specifically looking or what they are specifically listening to during the performance (i.e. what aspect of the sheet are they evaluating at a specific moment). Each judge has his/her own method and can therefore come up with very different opinions. UIL judging is very notorious for this. The real key for Area is getting the right bands to State, which they probably do a decent (certainly not perfect!) job of doing even with the variances.

[Maestropera]

  On 10/31/2021 at 6:36 PM, TWHSParent said:

I think part of what drives the variances is that, while they are looking for the same things, they aren't synchronized where they are specifically looking or what they are specifically listening to during the performance (i.e. what aspect of the sheet are they evaluating at a specific moment). Each judge has his/her own method and can therefore come up with very different opinions. UIL judging is very notorious for this. The real key for Area is getting the right bands to State, which they probably do a decent (certainly not perfect!) job of doing even with the variances.

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Interesting point you bring up.
 

The BOA sheeT (and likewise WGI) dictate specifics for certain point ranges, using “vocabulary” (good/great/outstanding…some/most/all of the time) to guide the values they award. UIL has a variance of this, but not to the same degree.

some additional causes for variances: using ordinal numbers to determine final score, music/visual caption swap for finals, random draw for finals. It must be said that judging is subjective and there will never be a great way to do it, only means of trying to do it better I guess!

[Rubisco]

A.) The new UIL judging system was essentially rolled out during a pandemic. The roll-out probably wasn't as smooth as some would have hoped. Expect to see more interesting judging at State.

B.) UIL doesn't really expect caption mastery from their judges the same way that the Big 3 do (BOA/DCI/WGI). Switching between music and visual is unheard of in DCI/BOA, just like switching from movement to general effect in WGI is unheard of, unless a judge gets fully certified in those other captions first. This is why it's relatively easy to predict who will be judging what at BOA based on the names of the judges, because those judges are masters at judging within particular captions, which they judge over and over and over and over again for both BOA and DCI.

C.) When you field 9 contests at a single time, and each of those requires 5 judges, you are going to take whatever judges you can get.