bingogooberman Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 This saturday! (10/6/18) Schedule: Cedar Creek HS 2:30 PM Seguin HS 2:45 PM Connally HS 3:00 PM Laredo Martin HS 3:15 PM Dripping Springs HS 3:30 PM -- Belton HS 4:15 PM Clark HS 4:30 PM Akins HS 4:45 PM Stony Point HS 5:00 PM Round Rock HS 5:15 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takigan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 It's kind of sad. Westlake used to be the preeminent marching festival in CenTex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Yikes. The proliferation of BOA and the increase of top programs refraining from local contests has hurt once prestigious shows like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 It's kind of sad. Westlake used to be the preeminent marching festival in CenTex. That and Capital City Marching Contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takigan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 That and Capital City Marching Contest. Well, I mean, sure....But Westlake was the premier UIL preview festival in CenTex back in the early 80s while Cap City wasn't set up until '92. Westlake always had much larger attendance with more 5A Area finalists, was held in a fancier venue and had a true finals format with BOA style field exits announcing the band's competition placement history. That's sort of where I'm coming from calling them the "preeminent festival", and it's the fact they're not only smaller than Cap City this year but are so pitifully small that they can't even have a proper finalist winner's circle anymore. That's what's really sad to me. Nny14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Well, I mean, sure....But Westlake was the premier UIL preview festival in CenTex back in the early 80s while Cap City wasn't set up until '92. Westlake always had much larger attendance with more 5A Area finalists, was held in a fancier venue and had a true finals format with BOA style field exits announcing the band's competition placement history. That's sort of where I'm coming from calling them the "preeminent festival", and it's the fact they're not only smaller than Cap City this year but are so pitifully small that they can't even have a proper finalist winner's circle anymore. That's what's really sad to me. I was just saying that these two were the big contests back then. I attended them both through those years. Anyone going to Westlake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I was just saying that these two were the big contests back then. I attended them both through those years. Anyone going to Westlake? I'm going. It's sad to see this competition not as well attended as it use to be. Round Rock has been going here for close to 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I'm going. It's sad to see this competition not as well attended as it use to be. Round Rock has been going here for close to 40 years. I'm thinking about going. If I remember correctly, Round Rock has only missed 1 year of this contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtwitch Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Round Rock and Dripping Springs are pretty much locks for the top 2 with Round Rock more than likely taking gold. After that, it's gonna be interesting. I'm personally hoping for Belton to upset and take bronze, but Connally and Cedar Creek are also strong enough of programs to possibly take 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostChoirGuy Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I would love to see Dripping Springs win this. Not because I dont like Round Rock, but because it would represent a major milestone in the growth of that program. They will be competing at Waco in a week also. Bandwoww 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 I would love to see Dripping Springs win this. Not because I dont like Round Rock, but because it would represent a major milestone in the growth of that program. They will be competing at Waco in a week also. This may be their best chance yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny14 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 This may be their best chance yet. Sadly I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texkathi Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I'm glad that Dripping does the local band festivals, which are major fund raisers for our local bands. I like supporting area music programs. BOA is enriching some fat cats elsewhere, and it honestly seems sometimes they're in it more for the money than for the kids (i.e. taking 80 band over 2 days, meaning bands are marching all hours, then finals absurdly late, making for dangerous driving for parents who travel to watch.) I'm not a BOA fan, but I support our band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texkathi Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 Since Westlake only has 10 bands this year, I wonder if they'll still take 10 to finals? Seems like if the number of bands is less than twice the number of finalists, in my special universe, only 1/2 would advance to finals. We'll just basically be seeing the same 10 shows again- why not just call the first time "finals" and let us go home early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 Even though I have my own (laundry list of) problems with BOA, they, through Music For All, are a non-profit. Nobody is getting a huge windfall (or small windfall) from BOA. The fall programs in Texas help subsidize Music For All programs in other parts of the nation, and the fall scheduling in general helps subsidize the concert band and choir and orchestra programs, which pretty much never make money and generally lose it. All of this information is readily accessible through various charitable giving watchdogs, as well as BOA’s own disclosures on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyGreen Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I can see that it would be sad if someone was emotionally attached to a particular competition, but you have to realize that every 4 year (kind of) the program of any given school is basically reset and emotional attachments from personal experiences dont really live well though multiple graduation classes. Also I wouldnt really call the outstanding growth of BOA "sad" because its bringing more and more bands into a modern reality of the marching arts. Not saying Westlake is outdated in any way, but the transition from local competitions to more large-scale regionals and super regionals is kind of like the industrial revolution for marching arts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog885 Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 Yeah, we haven't been to Westlake in years. We like to say the reason is because it's cursed. I believe every time we have been there, it has rained on us all starting in 2010. Some of us like to call it The Curse Of Waterways (our 2010 show) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 Even though I have my own (laundry list of) problems with BOA, they, through Music For All, are a non-profit. Nobody is getting a huge windfall (or small windfall) from BOA. The fall programs in Texas help subsidize Music For All programs in other parts of the nation, and the fall scheduling in general helps subsidize the concert band and choir and orchestra programs, which pretty much never make money and generally lose it. All of this information is readily accessible through various charitable giving watchdogs, as well as BOA’s own disclosures on their website. You said that much nicer than I was going to. I've heard several un-knowledgeable band parents barking this nonsense lately and am very tired of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I know nothing of the inner workings of BoA, but just because it is a non-profit organization doesn't mean there are not people who are getting paid very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I know nothing of the inner workings of BoA, but just because it is a non-profit organization doesn't mean there are not people who are getting paid very well. That's quite true. However, it is my deep understanding by knowing people who have worked there that it is modest in that regard. The scale of Music For All is nothing like think tanks and hospitals or top interest groups where pay can be better than the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Mamma Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Does anyone have results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Does anyone have results? Round Rock got first. Dripping Springs 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1st - Round Rock (90.1) 2nd - Dripping Springs (88.85) 3rd - Belton (82.575) 4th - Connally (81.5) 5th - Seguin (81.1) 6th - Clark (74.8) 7th - Stony Point (73.1) 8th - Akins 9th - Cedar Creek 10 - Laredo Martin Sorry, did get the last three scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1st - Round Rock (90.1) 2nd - Dripping Springs (88.85) 3rd - Belton (82.575) 4th - Connally (81.5) 5th - Seguin (81.1) 6th - Clark (74.8) 7th - Stony Point (73.1) 8th - Akins 9th - Cedar Creek 10 - Laredo Martin Sorry, did get the last three scores. Thanks for the scores. I didn't hang around for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 last three were 72.4, 65.1 and 64.35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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