2025 BOA San Antonio Super Regional (Nov. 7 & 8)

[Bluecoat]

We all know there are some 6A powerhouses here, but how are we thinking the 5A bloodbath will play out?

[mussheet]

31 minutes ago, Bluecoat said:

We all know there are some 6A powerhouses here, but how are we thinking the 5A bloodbath will play out?

Cedar Park

Rouse

Wakeland

[OGFISD99]

3 hours ago, mussheet said:

Cedar Park

Rouse

Wakeland

I'm going out on limb and saying 

1. Cedar Park 

2. Wakeland

3. Rouse 

[natertater21000]

11 hours ago, mussheet said:

Cedar Park

Rouse

Wakeland

You'd have to go back to 2011 to find the last time Leander didn't place in class 3A. Not so sure that streak ends this year. 

[LostChoirGuy]

1 hour ago, natertater21000 said:

You'd have to go back to 2011 to find the last time Leander didn't place in class 3A. Not so sure that streak ends this year. 

That's true, but Wakeland has only come to this contest once since the rise of Rouse as a 3A power and they only lost to Leander by 0.35 points (in 2023).  I do think it's dangerous to bet against Leander, but I would also say that the competition is stronger this year than usual. 

[OGFISD99]

I know y'all are doubting my prediction of wakeland finishing second in their class but I guess we'll find out..... Their show is written very well and it will surprise a few people..... I'm not saying rouse isn't a powerhouse but wakeland is totally different this year..... their marching technique is right there with cedar park.... but we'll see in couple of weeks.... 

[natertater21000]

8 hours ago, LostChoirGuy said:

That's true, but Wakeland has only come to this contest once since the rise of Rouse as a 3A power and they only lost to Leander by 0.35 points (in 2023).  I do think it's dangerous to bet against Leander, but I would also say that the competition is stronger this year than usual. 

It's going to be incredibly tight! Hard to gauge Leander, Rouse and CP this year due to them only being judged on a BOA rubric on September 20th and November 7th/8th. I don't look to much into TMC results for Rouse or Leander due to rubric discrepencies (Leander winning color guard while being dead last in Vis GE is....a choice). And of course there is CP that has gone unjudged through the entire month of October. We'll be in for some surprises to be sure!

[TWHSParent]

On 10/13/2025 at 8:55 PM, TWHSParent said:

Yea. I don't know the details, just a general impression. Of course the high school made it to honor band finals for the first time since???

I don't have a pick at the moment for SA. I think Rubisco's write up is very solid at this point. We'll get a better read at 6A state.

I've not seen anything from Broken Arrow. Will see them at St Louis. Just saw a video of Blue Springs. I don't know but for some reason I was getting Tarpon Springs vibes on the show design. I think Avon is stronger than Carmel so far. I have been given an opportunity by Music for All to attend Indianapolis Super (gratis), but I'm not sure if I can make it.

I was able to arrange to make it to most of the Indy Super. Got to my seat just a bit ago. Will be able to see most of the super regional. 

[BandMom75]

Do props add to the score? For example some bands have a ton of props, while others have none. Does having no props hurt the visual or GE scores?

[slowbrass]

3 minutes ago, BandMom75 said:

Do props add to the score? For example some bands have a ton of props, while others have none. Does having no props hurt the visual or GE scores?

Having props alone doesn’t affect the score either way. However, if they’re used in a fashion that the judges think adds to the effect of the show, a band that has props may end up scoring better than a band without them.

[BandMom75]

19 hours ago, slowbrass said:

Having props alone doesn’t affect the score either way. However, if they’re used in a fashion that the judges think adds to the effect of the show, a band that has props may end up scoring better than a band without them.

That’s kind of what I was thinking. Wondering why some bands don’t use props. Wouldn’t that just enhance the show more?

[hsbandnerd212]

27 minutes ago, BandMom75 said:

That’s kind of what I was thinking. Wondering why some bands don’t use props. Wouldn’t that just enhance the show more?

There's a lot that goes into show designs nowadays, and while I don't claim to know any of that, there are multiple visual elements that could enhance a show, props just being one of them. There could be the costuming of the color guard/dance teams and the design of their respective flags/rifles/etc., the band's uniforms, the drill design, etc.
Also, notice that slowbrass said a band with props may score better than a band with no props. The inverse of this can also be true.

I'd argue that Cedar Park 2008 is a good example of a show that had zero props, yet was still oozing GE (and it showed in their GE scores).

See also:
-TWHSParent's post about GE from this year -> https://www.txbands.com/forums/topic/16387-2025-boa-south-houston-oct-4/page/6/#findComment-188767
-If you're really curious, you can read pages 42-43 of the BOA Adjudication Handbook for more info about judging criteria for the Visual General Effect category: https://marching.musicforall.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2025/07/2025-BOA-Rulebook-05.15.2025.pdf

[BandMom75]

1 hour ago, hsbandnerd212 said:

There's a lot that goes into show designs nowadays, and while I don't claim to know any of that, there are multiple visual elements that could enhance a show, props just being one of them. There could be the costuming of the color guard/dance teams and the design of their respective flags/rifles/etc., the band's uniforms, the drill design, etc.
Also, notice that slowbrass said a band with props may score better than a band with no props. The inverse of this can also be true.

I'd argue that Cedar Park 2008 is a good example of a show that had zero props, yet was still oozing GE (and it showed in their GE scores).

See also:
-TWHSParent's post about GE from this year -> https://www.txbands.com/forums/topic/16387-2025-boa-south-houston-oct-4/page/6/#findComment-188767
-If you're really curious, you can read pages 42-43 of the BOA Adjudication Handbook for more info about judging criteria for the Visual General Effect category: https://marching.musicforall.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2025/07/2025-BOA-Rulebook-05.15.2025.pdf

Thanks! This is helpful. 

[LostChoirGuy]

1 hour ago, glyde said:

1. Flower Mound

2.Hebron

3.Vandegrift

4.Woodlands

5.Marcus

6.Vista fricking Ridge

7. Cedar Park

8.Rouse

9.Reagan

10.Pearland

11.Wakeland

12.Coppell

13.McNeil

14.RR

15. 7L

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I will lock in FloMo for the win but 2-4 can be anywhere, and 5-15 can also be switched around. 

 

Marcus and Coppell will not be attending.

[quenslays]

post area-predictions (i know that area judging is different but i think it holds some power.)

1. Flower Mound (Visual) (GE)
2. Vandegirft 
3. Hebron (Music)
4. The Woodlands
5. Vista Ridge
6. Cedar Park
7. Pearland
8. Ronald Reagan
9. Rouse
10. Moe & Gene Johnson
11. Cedar Ridge
12. Dripping Springs
13. Wakeland
14. Seven Lakes

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FIRST 3 OUT

Keller

James Bowie

Leander

 

 

[FaultLineBlues]

18 hours ago, glyde said:

1. Flower Mound

2.Hebron

3.Vandegrift

4.Woodlands

5.Marcus

6.Vista fricking Ridge

7. Cedar Park

8.Rouse

9.Reagan

10.Pearland

11.Wakeland

12.Coppell

13.McNeil

14.RR

15. 7L

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I will lock in FloMo for the win but 2-4 can be anywhere, and 5-15 can also be switched around. 

 

No Moe & Gene, Dripping Springs, or Cedar Ridge? Feel like they're pretty likely finalists this year. 

[utee94]

3 hours ago, FaultLineBlues said:

No Moe & Gene, Dripping Springs, or Cedar Ridge? Feel like they're pretty likely finalists this year. 

As noted before, Marcus and Coppell won't be competing at BOA-SA so there are two slots available right there.  And I agree, I think all three of those are likely finalists.  It's gonna be really tight on the bubble this year.  Which I suppose is the same as most years.

 

 

[Rubisco]

After watching several UIL Area competitions yesterday, I think this contest may be even more competitive from top to bottom than many people realize, if that's even possible. And I'm not even paying attention to the UIL results themselves, which I'm sure were very interesting. 😅

I'll try to watch the remaining three 6A areas tomorrow, but I'll be so very busy throughout the day.

[LostChoirGuy]

So is MGJ now in Panel 1 or...?

[lost]

Cedar Ridge top half I think.

[mussheet]

2 hours ago, LostChoirGuy said:

So is MGJ now in Panel 1 or...?

it would be weird if they switched to a different time just to be in a diff panel

[hsbandnerd212]

9 hours ago, mussheet said:

it would be weird if they switched to a different time just to be in a diff panel

Turns out that they did switch panels when they changed performance times, according to hewhowaits on HornRank: https://hornrank.proboards.com/post/106329/thread

[Qwerty22]

Westlake had a strong Area performance, I see them possibly making finals.

[glyde]

On 10/25/2025 at 2:41 PM, LostChoirGuy said:

Marcus and Coppell will not be attending.

Oops, in that case please disregard that list I will have to make another one

[Hello123454321]

Wylie is definitely locked in after getting robbed from State.