ValleyBandFanatic Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Breaking News: Roma’s appeal was denied and will not advance to Area Contest. Very unfortunate. Standard model on how to run a program. They deserved to make state finals. Danpod and El Gato_01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBB Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 This year would have been Roma's 10th consecutive State Marching Band appearance since 2001 :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmb Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Maybe? Finals: *Pioneer *Lopez *Sharyland *Rio Grande City *Victoria West Brownsville Veterans Memorial Gregory-Portland Brownsville Pace Donna Alice Going to be a great day of bands! ValleyBandFanatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBandFanatic Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Maybe? Finals: *Pioneer *Lopez *Sharyland *Rio Grande City *Victoria West Brownsville Veterans Memorial Gregory-Portland Brownsville Pace Donna Alice Going to be a great day of bands! I think there will be 2 dark horse moments. I believe an unexpected band will make finals, and make state, but that’s just me wanting something really exciting to happen. The real question for me is who will now be a first ever Area G champ come Saturday? My pick is Pioneer, they have found their drive and have the fortunate draw of Last in finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorGuardDAD Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think there will be 2 dark horse moments. I believe an unexpected band will make finals, and make state, but that’s just me wanting something really exciting to happen. The real question for me is who will now be a first ever Area G champ come Saturday? My pick is Pioneer, they have found their drive and have the fortunate draw of Last in finals. I'll go with Sharyland. They passed Pioneer at the last contest and were only 2 points behind Roma at Mission pre-Pigskin! ValleyBandFanatic and Cr4cker10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBandFanatic Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I'll go with Sharyland. They passed Pioneer at the last contest and were only 2 points behind Roma at Mission pre-Pigskin! Excellent shout! Man it’s going to be a good one. Sharyland has had a steady incline, which is what you want in a band program. Pioneer has re-discovered their competitive fervor after a sort of complacent start. My reasoning is based on a head to head performance basis, where bands perform on the same night. And pioneer has came out in front in my opinion, but you never know what could happen. Two excellent programs. One with a chip on its shoulder. One with a meteoric and sudden rise as a powerhouse in the band world. Both with a championship on the line. It’s gonna be a good one folks! Cr4cker10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Clarinet_Player Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Honestly, Area G Champions is up in the air. With Roma now out, a new champion will crowned. Personally, my front-runners are Pioneer and Sharyland.These two band have grown from what they were two years ago. Performance is key and that will be the biggest factor coming into Saturday. Can't wait!! ValleyBandFanatic and Cr4cker10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsGeek Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 PENALTIES IN MARCHING BAND ARE THE STUPIDEST THING EVER!!!!! Other than if a student does something, or the band affects the schedule of the contest, it is not fair to the kids. All of them pour blood, sweat, and tears into perfecting their programs and for something as small as 30 seconds over on a performance take that away is just NOT RIGHT. Basically kids are wasting their times perfecting programs that don’t even get to see the light of day because of A DIRECTOR’S MISTAKE! Or maybe not even. Incredibly unfortunate. (And please don’t take this as though the Roma kids “wasted their time”. They didn’t. They still probably all learned to be better musicians and people. Just trying to make my point. El Gato_01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtwitch Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 If we look past Roma we see something very exciting, all but 3 bands (other than Roma) in the area made 1s at region. Bringing Roma back in, this makes the total number of bands qualifying for area 29, which means if Roma didn't get the penalty we would have 6 bands advancing from Area G. While no one is directly effected by Roma's absence since they would have been the 30th band to push the total to 6, we could see it effect the state competition. Based on my projections (and we'll know for sure by this evening), we're looking at 35 5A bands qualifying for state. This means that potentially this single penalty could not only prevent Roma from making finals, but also another entirely different program likely across the state because of the 36+ rule (12 make finals). This is very disappointing for the Roma, the fans, and whoever ends up on the outskirts of finals. It's time for some change in UIL leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmb Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Unfortunately there would still only be 5 bands to State. Currently there are 28, so adding them in would be only 29 and not the 30 needed for the 6th band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmb Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just to clarify on how the timing works. All bands have 5 minutes to set up before the 8 minute clock automatically starts. Every band can, if they want, to begin BEFORE The 8 minutes begin, however pre-show or anything before the 8 minutes start will not be judged. The time for the 8 minutes is not subject to start earlier or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 To be blunt, that video tells us nothing.As the poster above notes, the 8 minutes doesn't begin until the 5 minutes has expired, regardless of whether the band had begun to perform or not. I have experience operating the clock at multiple UIL marching contests. I would typically cancel the 5 minute clock a few seconds before it counted all the way down so that I could take a moment to set up the 8 minute countdown. Somebody next to me would be keeping the countdown in the booth and when the 5 minutes expired he would signal me and I would begin the 8 minute clock. It would not be at all unusual for somebody to want to take 15 or 20 seconds to do this because it can be a little unnerving trying to make sure you don't mess up the programming of the clock. The buttons on the control are not always the best. More than once I would program in my 8 minutes and the scoreboard would show 18 minutes and I would have to quickly re-program.I'm not saying that any of this happened there, but we don't see anything to tell us otherwise. We would have to see the countdown of the 5 minutes to be sure of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandFan95 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 What my friend Sam says is correct. If there were clock problems, the contest manager would be able to rule or resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gato_01 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 What my friend Sam says is correct. If there were clock problems, the contest manager would be able to rule or resolve. Which then if UIL denied the appeal means that Roma did indeed have a an issue with timing. No one here is saying anything but I just want to say it would be unfair to blame the directors without knowing all the details here. Things happen sometimes...They have 5 minutes to get on the field before the 8 minute clock starts. If they had a pre-show then they had rehearsed at what time to begin that within the 5 minutes to ensure a smooth transition to the 8 minute start. It's possible they didn't get on correctly, or there was an electronics issue, or a prop caused a pile up as they were entering the field...who knows but anything could have led to a delay in getting their preshow started which means when the 8 minute clock started they were still performing their preshow which then caused them to go over their 8 minutes. Or. They were good during their 5 minutes and if they had no preshow, they were just late starting their actual show and the 8 minute clock was running... Or...they just took tempos to slow and that caused the show to run longer... I mean so many ways for things to go wrong and I'm sure they rehearsed all this and had the timing down but sometimes things just happen. If UIL denied the appeal then it appears their is evidence suggesting that the clock folks got it right in which case any of the scenarios above could have come into play. Still sucks and sad to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abtwitch Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Unfortunately there would still only be 5 bands to State. Currently there are 28, so adding them in would be only 29 and not the 30 needed for the 6th band. You are correct, looks like I miscounted Lassie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbassoon Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 State Locks 1. Pioneer 2. Sharyland 3. Lopez/RGC Finals Locks 5. Victoria West/Gregory Portland Finals Bubble Brownsville Veterans Memorial Pace Laredo Martin CC King Valley View Alice Donna PSJA SW Laredo Cigarroa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band_Fanatic Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 <p> State Locks 1. Pioneer 2. Sharyland 3. Lopez/RGC Finals Locks 5. Victoria West/Gregory Portland Finals Bubble Brownsville Veterans Memorial Pace Laredo Martin CC King Valley View Alice Donna PSJA SW Laredo Cigarroa I truly believe that the last state spot is up for grabs. Victoria West and Gregory Portland were very close in 2017, but honestly anything can happen. Donna made state in 2015 and didn't make Area finals in 2017. I'm real curious as to who will make state this year now that Roma unfortunately can't attend area. We can even have 2 new state bands this week. Pioneer, Sharyland, Lopez, and RGC made state last time and are amazing band programs, but it's all about how they perform that day. One bad run could be their last run. Sorry to be this dark lol. I just can't wait to see what happens this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbassoon Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sorry to be this dark lol. I just can't wait to see what happens this week. It’s all good, they’re just personal predictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band_Fanatic Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 It’s all good, they’re just personal predictions. I wasn't trying to attack you lol. I even posted my own predictions with Victoria West taking the last state spot. I just have a feeling that more unexpected things might happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmb Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 I think it’s supposed to get cold as well. Tuning, tuning, tuning! Danpod and ValleyBandFanatic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBandFanatic Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 https://www.uilmusicregion14.org/uploads/1/0/0/8/100843358/area_g_5a_schedule_2019.pdf ^Here is the Schedule for This Saturday’s competition https://www.uilmusicregion14.org/uploads/1/0/0/8/100843358/draw_order_area_g_5a_2019.pdf ^Here is the Draw order for finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band_Fanatic Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I think it’s supposed to get cold as well. Tuning, tuning, tuning! The same things happened in 2017. Hopefully it won't affect the bands too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorGuardDAD Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 State Locks 1. Pioneer 2. Sharyland 3. Lopez/RGC Finals Locks 5. Victoria West/Gregory Portland Finals Bubble Brownsville Veterans Memorial Pace Laredo Martin CC King Valley View Alice Donna PSJA SW Laredo Cigarroa Interesting. While Roma got first, Sharyland tied Pioneer in the finals at Weslaco earlier this month, and Pioneer got second based on its second in the prelims.. Sharyland got second at Prepigskin only 2/1000ths behind Roma at Mission while Pioneer got third. Should be a good competition this Saturday! Looking like perfect weather in the 70's! MrBandGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBandFanatic Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Interesting. While Roma got first, Sharyland tied Pioneer in the finals at Weslaco earlier this month, and Pioneer got second based on its second in the prelims.. Sharyland got second at Prepigskin only 2/1000ths behind Roma at Mission while Pioneer got third. Should be a good competition this Saturday! Looking like perfect weather in the 70's! Completely fair points, although this late in the season, earlier competitions can’t be the basis for everything. Right now, and especially Saturday it all depends on the performance. It truly does. And it’s just based on a performance by performance basis. As of now, the way it looks is that pioneer recognizes that Roma is out of the way (unfortunately so) and has shown a hunger like no other year they’ve had, and it’s paid off. Other than Roma, I’d say pioneer had the best run of region. Now I’m sure that sharyland has been seeing this and is using it as fuel to push further. It just comes down to Saturday’a performance(s). Anything can happen. It’s gonna be fun! *cough cough* tuning is gonna be a HUGE factor due to incoming weather *cough cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Clarinet_Player Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Interesting. While Roma got first, Sharyland tied Pioneer in the finals at Weslaco earlier this month, and Pioneer got second based on its second in the prelims.. Sharyland got second at Prepigskin only 2/1000ths behind Roma at Mission while Pioneer got third. Should be a good competition this Saturday! Looking like perfect weather in the 70's! Yeah, it's going to be a great contest on Saturday. With Roma out, its anyones game. Rooting for pioneer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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