MaryJoLisa Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Because there was aleady a schedule in place for tomorrow that didn't have to be altered. Bowie already had plans for their 7:15 time slot. Why change it? Why change anyone's time for tomorrow? There was no need for it. The only people that should really have to worry about altering anything for time and scheduling are the 7 bands moving to tomorrow from today. Also, saying "there is little to no chance that AISD would have allowed Bowie to attend at their scheduled time" holds true to ANY band getting scheduled at 6:45, 7:00, or 7:15 tomorrow. BOA should have kept it simple by leaving the current schedule in place and tacking today's bands on to the end of the current schedule. Simple. Easy. No one but today's bands have to change plans. I am not sure what you mean by Bowie already had plans for their 7:15 time slot? They had alternate travel plans? Otherwise, every band from Austin that was scheduled today also had plans and they had to get changed. You do realize that the forecast is for severe thunderstorms through 5 am tomorrow? No Austin area bands would be allowed to leave at 3-4 am to travel to San Antonio, just as today's weren't. I don't necessarily agree with how they changed the schedule, but I don't think it is fair to single out Bowie since accommodations were made for many other bands today and the times were assigned by draw. Also, I just checked their website and according to that, they perform at 4 and not 4:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Mama Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Oops. Quoted by accident and can't figure out how to delete my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlyman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I am not sure what you mean by Bowie already had plans for their 7:15 time slot? They had alternate travel plans? Otherwise, every band from Austin that was scheduled today also had plans and they had to get changed. You do realize that the forecast is for severe thunderstorms through 5 am tomorrow? No Austin area bands would be allowed to leave at 3-4 am to travel to San Antonio, just as today's weren't. I don't necessarily agree with how they changed the schedule, but I don't think it is fair to single out Bowie since accommodations were made for many other bands today and the times were assigned by draw. Also, I just checked their website and according to that, they perform at 4 and not 4:30. Bowie was already scheduled for 7:15 tomorrow. That's what I mean. Why change it? Anyone with the early time slot is going to have to face the possibility of weather. Everything you're saying applies literally to every other band. The Leander schools have farther to drive than Bowie. Round Rock has farther to drive. Pflugerville has farther to drive. I'm sure there are other schools that have farther to drive as well. How about they accomodate all the schools that have a long drive tomorrow. If they're going to change the schedule, change it so that those that have the shortest drive gets the earliest time slots and those with the longest drive get the later time slots. They should have left the schedule as is and not have changed it though. That would have been easiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abp Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think the concern is that if Bowie can't make 7.15 how can other bands make it at that time from the austin area? Just start finals later and end only with a drum major retreat. Can you imagine the headache to get drivers to leave the austin area at 3.30 am at the last minute? jlyman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Because there was aleady a schedule in place for tomorrow that didn't have to be altered. Bowie already had plans for their 7:15 time slot. Why change it? Why change anyone's time for tomorrow? There was no need for it. The only people that should really have to worry about altering anything for time and scheduling are the 7 bands moving to tomorrow from today. Also, saying "there is little to no chance that AISD would have allowed Bowie to attend at their scheduled time" holds true to ANY band getting scheduled at 6:45, 7:00, or 7:15 tomorrow. BOA should have kept it simple by leaving the current schedule in place and tacking today's bands on to the end of the current schedule. Simple. Easy. No one but today's bands have to change plans. I know it may seem that Bowie is gaining an advantage by having their time moved later in the day, but they are always a very strong performer and honestly, don't need any advantage to compete with the best no matter when they perform, early or late. I think the change of time is much more likely due to their school district not allowing them to travel in the early morning hours. The top district officials are much more interested in the student's safety than a competition, so I'm guessing they were forced to change their performance time or not go. Tenzineo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenzineo Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I know it may seem that Bowie is gaining an advantage by having their time moved later in the day, but they are always a very strong performer and honestly, don't need any advantage to compete with the best no matter when they perform, early or late. I think the change of time is much more likely due to their school district not allowing them to travel in the early morning hours. The top district officials are much more interested in the student's safety than a competition, so I'm guessing they were forced to change their performance time or not go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Is there any word on the plan for Vista and Leander? Leander band director will make a decision by 10pm tonight, but he says the only time slots are in the morning with an estimated 7am performance. LISD has not yet given them permission to travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I know it may seem that Bowie is gaining an advantage by having their time moved later in the day, but they are always a very strong performer and honestly, don't need any advantage to compete with the best no matter when they perform, early or late. I think the change of time is much more likely due to their school district not allowing them to travel in the early morning hours. The top district officials are much more interested in the student's safety than a competition, so I'm guessing they were forced to change their performance time or not go. It appears that Leander and Vista Ridge are facing this same restriction from their District, but they are not getting the same accomodation. And, as has been pointed out, they are farther away. How is that fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny14 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Round Rock also has that same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennelle Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Announcer just said they will start tomorrow morning at 7:15 am with James Bowie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 That is the old Saturday schedule that is still the currently published schedule. BOA is still trying to finalize things for tomorrow and should hopefully have a new schedule soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Leander band director will make a decision by 10pm tonight, but he says the only time slots are in the morning with an estimated 7am performance. LISD has not yet given them permission to travel. Waiting until 10pm to decide on something that will require a 3am call time is insane. band_junkie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlyman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It appears that Leander and Vista Ridge are facing this same restriction from their District, but they are not getting the same accomodation. And, as has been pointed out, they are farther away. How is that fair? And we have a winner! Round Rock as well. If they must alter the existing schedule, do so so that the closest schools (and those lucky enough to be in hotels in San Antonio) go earliest. Let the farthest out schools go later in the day. Otherwise, stick to what you already have planned. Leave the schedule as is and tack today's band on to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewing09 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I know it may seem that Bowie is gaining an advantage by having their time moved later in the day, but they are always a very strong performer and honestly, don't need any advantage to compete with the best no matter when they perform, early or late. I think the change of time is much more likely due to their school district not allowing them to travel in the early morning hours. The top district officials are much more interested in the student's safety than a competition, so I'm guessing they were forced to change their performance time or not go. I don't think the complaint is that they get an advantage by playing later. Rather, it's unfair that they were already slotted for 7:15 and received a later time WHILE bands in the same predicament (from the same area) were given times like 6:45am and 7am. Parkwoodmom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nny14 Posted October 31, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 "Music for All will be a catalyst to ensure that every child across America has access and opportunity to participate in active music making in his or her scholastic environment. We will use our resources to provide national programs that recognize and support music students' performance and success, offer music educator training and professional development, and deliver tools and resources to participants and their communities that will assist them in supporting music education by promoting awareness of music’s impact on student growth and achievement." Straight from music for alls mission statement. Just a little food for thought on this current situation. Davidian, scoobydoo and Hard Core Band Fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKendrick Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 All I can say is you cannot plan for these kinds of things. No one out there has any ill intent, just a mess to deal with something like this on the bands side AND on BOAs side. Quite frankly I wouldn't want to be in eithers position. Hard Core Band Fan and Xenon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny14 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Agreed, this isn't a scenario anyone wanted in the first place. There are just little things that are frustrating (for everyone involved). I could care less about waking up at 2 in the morning, it's when crazy storms are involved that driving at that time becomes dangerous. Friva and Hard Core Band Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 How much does it cost a band to attend this competition? Will these bands get refunds if unable to attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 One other thing, I am just glad that BOA is trying so hard to accommodate everyone so that they will have a chance to perform in the prelims. They could do the easier thing and just try to get one performance from everyone and pick the top 14 from that and not have a finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduke Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I'm from Dripping Springs and we drew the 7am spot for tomorrow and we made the decision not to go. It's going to be a tough day for those kids if they decide to take it! Waiting until 10pm to decide on something that will require a 3am call time is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 One other thing, I am just glad that BOA is trying so hard to accommodate everyone so that they will have a chance to perform in the prelims. They could do the easier thing and just try to get one performance from everyone and pick the top 14 from that and not have a finals. I don't see evidnece that BOA is trying all that hard. Mash and scoobydoo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlyman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I don't see evidnece that BOA is trying all that hard. I've reached my quota of "likes". Since I couldn't "like" your comment, I'm just reposting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Vista Ridge Band Booster Facebook says an opportunity is opening up for VR and Leander to make the trip tomorrow - https://www.facebook.com/vistaridge.band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny14 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 As long as the district gives us the clear it appears Round Rock will perform at 4:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandamonium Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 It appears that the schedule could be intact but rather there was a lottery for openings in the schedule whether it was a break or before/after the 2nd round of prelims. Perhaps it's possible Bowie asked CTJ if they could switch times since CTJ is in the San Antonio area? I just don't understand all the backlash and I don't think it's right for us to speculate and lash out at programs based on their luck of the draw. BOA is doing their job. Accomadations were made to these programs for missing their original scheduled time and they are trying to fix tomorrow's schedule accordingly. Hard Core Band Fan and Xenon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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