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their was a rouge video posted from a football game last weekend that I got to view yesterday - but it is gone now - big sound and typical CTJ high speed drill - no props or new uniforms so I am hoping the rain stays away for their homecoming this Friday

again - - my proposal was not to do away with Indy - but to separate to a North and South - I do not see Indy going away - great venue and it is in MFA back yard - but rather to identify San Antonio as an equal to the Indy competition and provide it the same value to those wins you stated my same point - with the exception of the Texas bands, Indy is a lot of the same players year in and year out - just as SA is - why not have a national title for both.....

there are 87 bands listed this year for BOA SA and a push to allow more - so the 70 Bands/Trailers is going to be debunked in the next 60 days - and by spreading it out with a 2 day prelims, it can address the space issues - it is my understanding that BOA SA last year already shifted the parking issues and the buses/trailers are no longer parked throughout the event and cannot show up more that 2 hours prior to warm up times. there are plenty of resources in San Antonio to address the needs and it still ties in well with the UIL happening a few days later. I am confident that MFA will never give up having it in Indy - Pro stadium with convention center attached and such, but they will need to address (as we saw this year) the expansion of San Antonio SR - it is already more competitive and at some point may likely become larger. The middle class demographics being what they are, I doubt there is any more public funds going into our Texas programs and the cost of those trips to Indy is bore by parents and they may continue to find a better way to spend those funds - a trip out of state to Tournament of Roses, Macys' or even out of country to preform may hold a bigger appeal - or just traveling to other regionals and accept that their season ends in SA with BOA and/or UIL. I do not see MFA/BOA allowing that to happen - if Texas bands start opting for that and we see the same 3-4 bands taking turns in Indy winning Grand Nats it also becomes meaningless just my thoughts - I dont see it as an if - but rather a "when it happens

it would be interesting to see BOA focus on some of those areas that have more 1 and 2A programs - maybe build a regional around that concept

I believe so - still too early to tell, but I do not see them backing off of last years intensity

I agree - Reagan is a cinch for this and it should be a significant gap - in the past, this has been viewed as a BOA comparable competition but the addition of the Waco Regional has drawn away a good deal of the real competitors

O.K. - so I am going to reopen the wound - as I know that this has been hashed about in the past - But... that was a discussion of San Antonio replacing G Nats or making G Nats irrelevant.... I would still say that SA is more competitive and that was again proven last year with many moving up from SA to GNats - I have heard all the "peaking at the right time" comments - but tell me that any of the bands that were going to Gnat would not have wanted to peak in SA? - and how much more drill time did they get between SA and GNats with the travel requirement????? results speak Avon moved from 4th in SA to 3rd in GNats Marcus Moved from 7th in SA to 4th in GNats FloMo moved from 6th in SA to 5th In GNats TWHS moved from 11th in SA to 7th in GNats RRock moved from 18th (no finals) in SA to 12th in GNats Churchill moved from 21st (no final) in SA to 16th (semis) in GNats so how much is the extra week and how much is based on the level of competition in SA VS Indy ???? BUT - What about a Grand Nats North (Indy) and South (San Antonio) while this is not ideal, there will never be an ideal process in the world of Marching Arts - due to the cost of travel and the lead time for planning, this could be as close as we get to a real national championship. Consider this - the recent expansion of the super regionals has the following bands signed up for 2018 season - Indy 68 bands (same as last year) - St Louis 77 Bands (Up from 65 last year) - San Antonio - 87 Bands - (21 more bands than what was scheduled for last year) while St Louis increase could be a pick up from the Atlanta cancellation - San Antonio continues to grow - at some point they will have to add another day (Thursday) and have a 2 day prelims - you can only take away so many breaks, before you run out of daylight. I believe the only thing that keeps this from happening is the loss of Texas Bands in Indy - though I still think we will see many programs make that trek in off-state years - what would be better than winning both Grand Nats South and then Grand Nats North? I don't think it is a matter of if, but when they will expand San Antonio into the same format as GNats due to the size of the competition I think that having a North and South would allow more bands to compete on a routine basis - not just when they can afford to do to Indy - the question is how do you come up with a final ranking based on 2 different locations how many times have you thought - what if they could take that show to Indy???? - this could end that.. I welcome the discussion

I agree - they ones that own their drill VS those that hand it off to someone else seams to get better results and have the ability to modify on the fly when there is an issue without waiting on someone who may be managing the drill for multiple programs at once

i got that a few years ago when my wife was a chaperone - the joy of not having kids in any program is that we both get to hang out and watch all the bands and i take my computer so I can comment on this site during the shows

between now and October is when a show is polished - a "Boring" or Basic" show concept does not change with polish

just bought my BOA SA VIP tickets - let the games begin - as we appear to say every year - it will be a blood bath in the dome - and I wanted good seats to see it all first hand

no video out that I am aware of - homecoming is on the 14th and they generally do a full run after the homecoming game so I am sure there may be some pirate videos out there after that. I have heard that the show is intense - big production with a huge sound and a bigger size than last year - looking forward to seeing what it looks like

Johnson will not be there - they will already be in South Texas for the McAllen BOA Regional -

looking forward to Fall Fest this year - looking froward to seeing all the NEISD shows as they develop

Yes - was floored by their size - they have always had a huge/powerful sound on the field but with their growth in members they will shake the stands. the concept of the show is rock solid and should be a real crowd please - just like last year

we sound like a bunch of junkies - looking for our next fix.... i looked at a number of videos from this weekend and it is hard to get much more than an idea of the concept from all of them. limited props, pour video quality and you have to FF past some of the dance teams. while it gives a view of what is to come, - I cant wait to see some real competitions - 18 days till BOA Texas kicks off

still too soon - but shortly

kick off of the marching season - cant wait to see how much of the shows we will start to see at the football games - 3 weeks to BOA kick off with Midland and McAllen Bring it on!!!

great advice that will carry you beyond your college years -

many great memories - Grand Nats finals in 2011 and the 2014 Tournament of Rose Parade where great (and many other memories in between) but I would say the 2014 - my child's senior year - BOA SA Gold followed by UIL Bronze a few days later - great way to end her 4 years in band

2011 with a freshman in band - parents sitting next to me in Austin were viewing on their phone and turned me on to the site

we moved to San Antonio in 2009 when CTJ was heading into their second year - they are celebrating their 10th anniversary this year

CTJ and Cedar park had the heaviest BOA schedule with 3 regional and the SA super regional in addition to UIL in a state year - so there is the workload and Conroe is an overnight trip so it could well be an expense issue as well- an attempt to keep the costs down

could be the new director - this means that they will not appear in a BOA event until Waco in Mid-October

that is a pretty broad statement of "among the best in the state" around Warren - this is Texas