Samuel Culper Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, VannerS said: Yea, never heard of ending early, but definitely starting in other places. Starting in another place would require changing the initial set on the field, which would take time. Ending early can be a last-second change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flute goddess Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, VannerS said: Yea, never heard of ending early, but definitely starting in other places. Quite some bands do this early in the season when they don't have the entire show down yet. Minimum requirement is 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zil Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samuel Culper Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zil said: Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA? It is enforced at Area and State Prelims, but not State Finals. Tubalord11, Dallas Hobbs and Zil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 5:58 AM, windypendyww said: now that area's on every year, it'll be interesting to see some predictions for what i believe is one of the most competitive 5A areas in all of Texas! Why did they make Area an annual contest now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Tubalord11 said: No it’s still the standard 3 music 2 marching for all areas of all classifications. Hmmm would it be better if the Area contests adopted the 7-judge system like at state? What do you all think? peshbandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Samuel Culper said: It seems like it happens to some band every year - technical issues delay the start of the show and result in a time violation and a 2 at Region. I've always wondered if there would be some wisdom in the band setting up an emergency ripcord signal. Have the band pre-determine an emergency stopping point, like before the last part of the show - a place where they would have stopped before they had the entire show on the field earlier in the season. When there is an issue like that delaying the start, the director tells the drum majors and they give a signal to the band right before starting the show so that everyone knows they are stopping short. Is that at all feasible? Just a thought in my head. I was just thinking about that while reading the comments! A fail safe implemented into the show would’ve made things easier for them. It’s region so I don’t think the show needs to be performed completely in order for them to get a 1 anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dallas Hobbs said: Hmmm would it be better if the Area contests adopted the 7-judge system like at state? What do you all think? I feel like 7 judges wouldn’t be needed(it would be hard to find that many for each area) but maybe they did different sheets? Like for marching do individual and ensemble, and for music maybe individual ensemble and percussion, or I guess woodlands brass and percussion, but I feel like them doing more like state wouldn’t hurt, it’s just they’ve been doing the 5 sheets for so long, but I know a LOT of people don’t agree with how area judging is, but UIL is doing their best. Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: I feel like 7 judges wouldn’t be needed(it would be hard to find that many for each area) but maybe they did different sheets? Like for marching do individual and ensemble, and for music maybe individual ensemble and percussion, or I guess woodlands brass and percussion, but I feel like them doing more like state wouldn’t hurt, it’s just they’ve been doing the 5 sheets for so long, but I know a LOT of people don’t agree with how area judging is, but UIL is doing their best. Interesting. I think part of what makes Area judging so wild is that the three music judges at Area are each doing the work of the four state music judges. An area music judge must evaluate ensemble, woodwind, brass, and percussion performance all at once then compare that evaluation to 20-30+ other bands! I see why they broke it down at state😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, Dallas Hobbs said: Interesting. I think part of what makes Area judging so wild is that the three music judges at Area are each doing the work of the four state music judges. An area music judge must evaluate ensemble, woodwind, brass, and percussion performance all at once then compare that evaluation to 20-30+ other bands! I see why they broke it down at state😅 yeah I know it's crazy! I just hope they find something new soon, but it seems like for the most part, the bands who make state are al "worthy" but Texas is just so competitive, everyone is so good, and there will always be bands who don't make it that should have or were "worthy" of making it to state. But all the kids can do is try their hardest, so no matter the results, they know they left it all on the field! Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave609 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Hey ya'll, I'm at a showcase for Melissa, so I'll be able to get a video of their show for ya'll Tubalord11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dave609 said: Hey ya'll, I'm at a showcase for Melissa, so I'll be able to get a video of their show for ya'll thank you! saw their region performance, and I think they have a shot at finals here if they clean up the closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrogdub Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: thank you! saw their region performance, and I think they have a shot at finals here if they clean up the closer. Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Maestrogdub said: Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. Oh really, that’s a little surprising but understandable. I would have thought they would have wanted to go so they could get a feel of the area and where they stand since next year is a state year, but of course they have a reason. Still an amazing year for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave609 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, Maestrogdub said: Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. Do you know why they dropped out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkullEmoji Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 22 hours ago, Sopranosaxman said: I completely disagree with this, we've seen some weakness start to show in Wakelands program. Lone Star and and Forney have beaten them in music, this competition wouldn't have just been a lock. I really think that Lone Star has(had?) a good chance of beating them if not coming very very close to it. Duncanville should be a good competition for them though. ur funny perkenski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Dallas Hobbs said: I was just thinking about that while reading the comments! A fail safe implemented into the show would’ve made things easier for them. It’s region so I don’t think the show needs to be performed completely in order for them to get a 1 anyways. Exactly. It's a strategy that would be for Region only to ensure that you advance. Dallas Hobbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave609 Posted October 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, krustyjoe said: lone star doesn't stand a chance against wakeland this season. their best doesn't even beat wakeland at their worst. lone star is a strong program, don't get me wrong, but they aren't quite on the level of wakeland at the moment. with the amount of cleaning and nitpicking wakeland is able to do with their show, they just continue to widen the gap. unfortunately though, Wakeland will not be at this contest. But I agree with you! Tubalord11, krustyjoe and Niceone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAstar23 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Zil said: Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA? I’ve never seen a penalty given out to a band at the Area or State level and there are plenty who have broken rules. In regards to Wakeland’s situation, pointing fingers does no good but I will say I have been present for a UIL contest in which a major 6A Band had tech issues, started late but still got a 1 because the Band Director told the drum major to stop after the ballad, mid-performance. Although it was awkward for the performers, they got off the field in time, got straight 1s and a heck of a story to tell. Dave609 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flute goddess Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 hours ago, TexasWoo1999 said: I’ve never seen a penalty given out to a band at the Area or State level and there are plenty who have broken rules. In regards to Wakeland’s situation, pointing fingers does no good but I will say I have been present for a UIL contest in which a major 6A Band had tech issues, started late but still got a 1 because the Band Director told the drum major to stop after the ballad, mid-performance. Although it was awkward for the performers, they got off the field in time, got straight 1s and a heck of a story to tell. Lovejoy god downgraded a couple of years ago because they started practicing their show early. What good are rules if they are not enforced? Rules level the playing field. Dave609 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrumLine Posted October 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 hours ago, krustyjoe said: lone star doesn't stand a chance against wakeland this season. their best doesn't even beat wakeland at their worst. ... they just continue to widen the gap. To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next. VannerS, Tubalord11 and Flute goddess 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmith Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Everyone here keeps acting like they know what went on with Wakeland, the only people who really know are those who actually performed with them that day. What happened happened and there's no point in throwing **** around about things you don't know. Tubalord11 and Texas band lover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyjoe Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, DrumLine said: To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next. nowhere did i say wakeland was unbeatable. i'm just saying they carry out a level of excellence that lone star currently isn't up to. nothing about any other bands perkenski 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niceone Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, DrumLine said: To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next. I am gonna say it at this competition wakeland is unbeatable. Sure they might lose a caption on some iffy performances at 8 am, but they have only been beat by 4 top 6a bands this whole season in finals (Hebron, flomo, Marcus, coppell by .135) they got beat by ld bell and westlake in prelims but thats just because of their early performance time compared to going right next to them making it easier for the judges to decide. krustyjoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennertrumbow Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 oh man this is getting pretty heated lol I'm glad wakeland gets a good way to end their season off. I'm genuinely sad they won't be at area with us, I would have liked another chance to fight it out with them, regardless of the outcome Dave609 and perkenski 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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