Dave609 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, snares said: Just took a look at results (I need to go look at area H next, I didn't even check results because I assumed Vandy would win but holy cow Vista Ridge!), and man does my heart hurt for Prosper. The tough thing about UIL competitions is that (unless retreat procedure has changed in the last year) because they don't announce actual scores you never really know how close or far you were from qualifying. But then to have to go look at those scores right after results are announced must be so frustrating to see that you were right there and just barely missed it. I am also absolutely shocked at the gaps between Marcus, FloMo, and Hebron. Shocked not meaning I disagree (I wasn't there and am still yet to see Hebron), but shocked a just how far ahead the judges seemed to think Hebron was. I could literally never imagine having to judge 3 absolutely incredible bands like that, but those gaps in the numbers in the subcaptions is something that I just don't think I've seen in the last decade or so from this area. Hebron's performance was really good in both Prelims and Finals! They are going after the State Title again if they have the same performances as they did for Area. I can't wait to post the videos at the end of the season so people can get a chance to see their performances! snares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Looking at the scores I noticed that in prelims one music judge awarded Hebron perfect scores in woodwinds, brass and percussion sub-captions. Then, in finals one visual judge gave them a perfect score in content, and one music judge gave them a perfect score in content. As if this group couldn’t get any more impressive Edited October 31, 2022 by Dallas Hobbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaroth Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 If anyone has a video of Hebron's performance they could send me that would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peshbandkid Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 I was able to download the Hebron performance before it got taken off youtube, but it's too large to upload here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wef Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, peshbandkid said: I was able to download the Hebron performance before it got taken off youtube, but it's too large to upload here. Do you think you could upload it to a Google drive and share the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave609 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Alright, with Area weekend Officially over, I feel like I can now talk about my thoughts on the 6 bands that have qualified for the State contest! ADVANCERS TO STATE: Hebron- I don't know where to even begin with this band. They put on a performance that was even better than the last one! The music is phenomenal and the marching techniques are better than ever! I even found out that they haven't had their closer on the field for that long, and the fact that they came to Area and walked away as Area Champion says so much about where this group is heading in the next couple of weeks. Look out San Antonio, Hebron High School Band is heading your way and You are not going to want to miss them! Flower Mound- Their show is so unique and the title says it all! The props help with the story, and even let you know where they are in the show! The uniforms are so cool and fit in very well with what they are wanting to achieve! The music is great and the marching style is on point. I feel like Flower Mound has a chance at the Top 3 this year, but who is to say what will happen. The Flower Mound High School Band is Flying to San Antonio to tell you the story of The Adventures of Super Band and you do not want to miss it! Marcus- Their show is so interesting and feels like I'm watching a new version of Tilt from the Bluecoats! Marcus is coming back and they are coming back strong! Their music is Awesome and they are doing very well in marching. I feel that we will soon be seeing the return of the Early 2010's Marcus in the coming years, and this show is only the beginning! Pivot is such a cool show, and San Antonio, they are looking to give you a show you will not forget! Wylie- I REALLY Love that opening hit from the Brass. That Wylie Band is here to tell you stories through the echo's of the Canyon's. Their props are really nice, their music is great, and they are marching with precision! They are looking to be a Finals contender and I hope to see them do just that! Here comes Canyon's San Antonio, and you are about to be taken into a whole new world with Canyons! Wylie East- WOW, first Year as a 6A and they are Advancing to the State Contest! Wylie East has put on a phenomenal show this year, and it is awesome to see them continue their journey with their sister school as well! The preshow music is still so cool and fits in well with the announcers script! When they play come together, it is such a amazing piece and the emotion throughout the show is something else! San Antonio, Wylie East High School band is coming with a Re-Imagined look and you do not want to miss their performance! McKinney Boyd- Where do I even begin with the Bronco Band. They have a great opener and the force given by the brass and woodwinds is such a cool moment to be apart of. The story they tell is great and the props go well with what they are wanting to say. They marched very well and are on the voyage of making History. I want to take a quick moment and give a HUGE congratulations to them as this is the first time that McKinney Boyd High School Band is advancing to the UIL State Championships! San Antonio keep those Beacon's shining bright, because the Beacon of Hope is coming your way and you don't want to miss it! CoachB, Tubalord11 and JazzRun 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troreo Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 1:08 AM, Dallas Hobbs said: I Immediately screen recorded this 😩 If it possible for u too send me a link? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) On 10/29/2022 at 7:27 PM, Dallas Hobbs said: Alright here are my live predictions. This of course will be updated regularly. Then I’ll compare how accurate I was after the awards ceremony. Asterisks mean I’m not certain: •Hebron •Flower Mound •Marcus •Sachse • Wylie •Rock Hill - - - - -State Qualifiers •Prosper •Rockwall •Lewisville •Wylie East •McKinney Boyd •Braswell Hebron ✅ Flower Mound ✅ Marcus ✅ Sachse ❌ (-5) Wylie ❌ (+1) Rock Hill ❌ (-2) Prosper ✅ Rockwall ❌ (-3) Lewisville ❌ (-1) Wylie East❌ (+5) McKinney Boyd❌ (+5) Braswell ✅ By the way, here are the results of my analyses. I was 5/12 in putting each finalist band in the right placement, and was 4/6 in picking the right state qualifiers. I included checks and x’s to indicate which ones I got right and which ones I got wrong, as well as how far off I was. Edited November 1, 2022 by Dallas Hobbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandMomTX2 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 1:40 PM, ClarinetKing said: This area is a complete blood bath at this point and needs to be realigned. There are way too many state level bands in this area that aren’t getting well deserved state spots. Prosper, Sachse, Wylie, Wylie East, and Rockwall are all easily state competitors but they just aren’t all going to get a spot. Again with the bloodbath. I also hear that Prosper’s Rock hill is a very exciting up and coming program that could also be a potential state competitor after placing in finals in every competition they attended last season. McKinney also dove in head first at the WMI last year placing above many 5A state finalists and Area C state contenders but were robbed of even making finals last year at area. Prosper got moved down to 7th last year at area but let’s not forget that they were a BOA grand national finalist as recently as 2018. So honestly with how unpredictable the judging was last year there is really no way to tell. Yes please realign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peshbandkid Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 20 hours ago, BandMomTX2 said: Yes please realign! I think realignment in the Dallas area (at least for 6A) won't create a big difference. The two most difficult and stacked areas in Texas are in DFW. There are 72 schools in 6A within the metroplex. If there was a third area added, we could maximize the number of schools going to state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, peshbandkid said: I think realignment in the Dallas area (at least for 6A) won't create a big difference. The two most difficult and stacked areas in Texas are in DFW. There are 72 schools in 6A within the metroplex. If there was a third area added, we could maximize the number of schools going to state. Area D is every bit as stacked as either B or C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Hobbs Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 Does anyone know the name of the musical selections Marcus and Hebron performed in their respective shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal28 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Samuel Culper said: Area D is every bit as stacked as either B or C. If all the LISD 5A schools moved up to 6A, I’d agree. Maybe in regards to degree of difficulty with only 5 spots and a smaller pool of area entrants, but as of now, there’s a lot of depth to go around in both areas B and C, constantly growing year by year as well! Maybe some Frisco schools join the fray with some of their schools becoming a 6A in the near future, they’ll have to stop opening new schools at some point haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Culper Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vidal28 said: If all the LISD 5A schools moved up to 6A, I’d agree. Maybe in regards to degree of difficulty with only 5 spots and a smaller pool of area entrants, but as of now, there’s a lot of depth to go around in both areas B and C, constantly growing year by year as well! Maybe some Frisco schools join the fray with some of their schools becoming a 6A in the near future, they’ll have to stop opening new schools at some point haha LISD is Area H, not D. Putting all of the Austin area into one Area would be brutal. Looking at Area results (with HornRank rankings).... Area B 18-Coppell Next 10-Waxahachie Next 10-Timber Creek Next 10-Keller LD Bell Duncanville -------------- SL Carroll Lake Ridge Keller Central Lake HIghlands Martin Berkner Area C 1-Hebron 6-Flower Mound 12-Marcus Wylie Wylie East Boyd -------------- Prosper Rock Hill Sachse Lewisville Rockwall Braswell Area D 9-Ronald Reagan 10-CTJ 7-Cedar Ridge 17-Round Rock Dripping Springs ---------------- Westwood James Bowie Weiss McNeil Churchill I stand by my assertion that D is just as deep as B and C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal28 Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Samuel Culper said: LISD is Area H, not D. Putting all of the Austin area into one Area would be brutal. Looking at Area results (with HornRank rankings).... Area B 18-Coppell Next 10-Waxahachie Next 10-Timber Creek Next 10-Keller LD Bell Duncanville -------------- SL Carroll Lake Ridge Keller Central Lake HIghlands Martin Berkner Area C 1-Hebron 6-Flower Mound 12-Marcus Wylie Wylie East Boyd -------------- Prosper Rock Hill Sachse Lewisville Rockwall Braswell Area D 9-Ronald Reagan 10-CTJ 7-Cedar Ridge 17-Round Rock Dripping Springs ---------------- Westwood James Bowie Weiss McNeil Churchill I stand by my assertion that D is just as deep as B and C. I was seeing things, and I apologize there, having SA and Austin clumped together and then omitting LISD entirely with them being in a different area is so weird to me, but anyways!!! I definitely wouldn’t base the depth on the areas on hornrank’s rankings. Not enough of a scope based on the limited number of bands ranked to begin with and it’s a national thing, plus there is quite a bit of fluctuation to go where some bands in both Areas B and C get more love in the next week imo, especially with Prosper and Carroll going to Grand Nats. I don’t have all the data on Area D on my end because I haven’t gone to the area contest to see all these bands in action to be fair to you. I’m sure I’ll find my way down in the area at some point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostChoirGuy Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 UIL performance isn't depicted very well in hornranks rankings. Plus, I don't think people are saying Area D isn't stacked at the top, just that area B (and probably C) have a lot more bands that are competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow_Mello Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/20/2022 at 7:01 PM, peshbandkid said: Tier Predictions Winning Medals and going to state: Flower Mound, Hebron, Marcus State Bubble: Wylie, Wylie East, Prosper, Rock Hill Since only 6 go onto state, 1 of these schools gets left out. Unsuprisingly, I can't tell you which school will be. (Probably) Safe In Finals: Sachse They've been undeniably strong so far this year and will likely make it in. Finals Bubble: McKinney Boyd, Rockwall, Plano East, Lewisville, Rockwall Heath, ?Rowlett? Here's where the competiton lies. We haven't seen Boyd since WMI where they got 7th, but I am sure they have cleaned up since. Rockwall and Plano East were neck-and-neck at McKinney, and both likely still had much to add. Rowlett beat Heath at Royse City, but I think they both are just a slight step behind the others. Lewisville is the most volatile of the bunch. They beat Plano East and Rockwall by a significant margin at McKinney while trailing only the Wylie schools, which makes me think they are closer to Sachse than the bubble. As mentioned, those groups were incomplete at McKinney, so there is some debate. All I know for certain is that at least 3 state level bands will be left out because of the difficulty of this Area. Same goes for Area B Boyd made second at WMI, Mckinney high got seventh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beverly Deaton Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 I totally agree about the deck being stacked against some great bands to get a bid to go to state. Something has to be done. The same bands take the top 3 state spots EVERY year in nearly all classifications. Not fair. Realignment should be done somehow. I have heard band students say " why should we work our butts off every year when we have no chance at all to ever go to state"! Some really talented bands never get that state experience. Very unfair and sad! I was a drum major in the '60's when the highest level was district and all bands had the opportunity to go and get a 1 that was added to a 1 at concert and sightreading and that gave that band the highest honor of a Sweepstakes. Then UIL decided bands should have the ultimate award of a statewide championship. Turns out to not be a great idea. There has to be someway to allow most band to have the state experience. Im 76 years old and hoping to see my granddaughter ,who is head drum major of her high school band, make it to state. But if bands know, even before they go, that they have no chance of a medal, what's the point. I think the band experience is one if the best programs any student can be a part of. I have been involved with band programs since my junior high days over 60 years ago. My sisters, daughters and now grandchildren have been and are in bands and musical programs including college. I have been involved in every aspect of band from participant, to volunteer to now supporter of grandchildren. I truly love music and band. But in this day and age of band programs, subjectivity instead of objectivity has taken precedence, as has politics. Something has to change. Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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