UIL 5A Area B 2022

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/17/2022 at 5:19 PM, VannerS said:

Yea, never heard of ending early, but definitely starting in other places.

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Starting in another place would require changing the initial set on the field, which would take time.  Ending early can be a last-second change.

[LisbethMom]

  On 10/17/2022 at 5:19 PM, VannerS said:

Yea, never heard of ending early, but definitely starting in other places.

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Quite some bands do this early in the season when they don't have the entire show down yet. Minimum requirement is 5 minutes.

[Zil]

Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA?

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/17/2022 at 9:51 PM, Zil said:

Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA?

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It is enforced at Area and State Prelims, but not State Finals.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 9/22/2022 at 10:58 AM, windypendyww said:

now that area's on every year, it'll be interesting to see some predictions for what i believe is one of the most competitive 5A areas in all of Texas!

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Why did they make Area an annual contest now?

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/17/2022 at 2:14 PM, Tubalord11 said:

No it’s still the standard 3 music 2 marching for all areas of all classifications. 

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Hmmm would it be better if the Area contests adopted the 7-judge system like at state? What do you all think?

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/17/2022 at 5:10 PM, Samuel Culper said:

It seems like it happens to some band every year - technical issues delay the start of the show and result in a time violation and a 2 at Region.  

I've always wondered if there would be some wisdom in the band setting up an emergency ripcord signal.  Have the band pre-determine an emergency stopping point, like before the last part of the show - a place where they would have stopped before they had the entire show on the field earlier in the season.

When there is an issue like that delaying the start, the director tells the drum majors and they give a signal to the band right before starting the show so that everyone knows they are stopping short.

Is that at all feasible?  Just a thought in my head.

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I was just thinking about that while reading the comments! A fail safe implemented into the show would’ve made things easier for them. It’s region so I don’t think the show needs to be performed completely in order for them to get a 1 anyways. 

[Tubalord11]

  On 10/17/2022 at 11:10 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Hmmm would it be better if the Area contests adopted the 7-judge system like at state? What do you all think?

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I feel like 7 judges wouldn’t be needed(it would be hard to find that many for each area) but maybe they did different sheets? Like for marching do individual and ensemble, and for music maybe individual ensemble and percussion, or I guess woodlands brass and percussion, but I feel like them doing more like state wouldn’t hurt, it’s just they’ve been doing the 5 sheets for so long, but I know a LOT of people don’t agree with how area judging is, but UIL is doing their best.

[Dallas Hobbs]

  On 10/17/2022 at 11:23 PM, Tubalord11 said:

I feel like 7 judges wouldn’t be needed(it would be hard to find that many for each area) but maybe they did different sheets? Like for marching do individual and ensemble, and for music maybe individual ensemble and percussion, or I guess woodlands brass and percussion, but I feel like them doing more like state wouldn’t hurt, it’s just they’ve been doing the 5 sheets for so long, but I know a LOT of people don’t agree with how area judging is, but UIL is doing their best.

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Interesting. I think part of what makes Area judging so wild is that the three music judges at Area are each doing the work of the four state music judges. An area music judge must evaluate ensemble, woodwind, brass, and percussion performance all at once then compare that evaluation to 20-30+ other bands! I see why they broke it down at state😅

[Tubalord11]

  On 10/17/2022 at 11:29 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

Interesting. I think part of what makes Area judging so wild is that the three music judges at Area are each doing the work of the four state music judges. An area music judge must evaluate ensemble, woodwind, brass, and percussion performance all at once then compare that evaluation to 20-30+ other bands! I see why they broke it down at state😅

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yeah I know it's crazy! I just hope they find something new soon, but it seems like for the most part, the bands who make state are al "worthy" but Texas is just so competitive, everyone is so good, and there will always be bands who don't make it that should have or were "worthy" of making it to state. But all the kids can do is try their hardest, so no matter the results, they know they left it all on the field! 

[Dave609]

Hey ya'll, I'm at a showcase for Melissa, so I'll be able to get a video of their show for ya'll

[Tubalord11]

  On 10/17/2022 at 11:43 PM, Dave609 said:

Hey ya'll, I'm at a showcase for Melissa, so I'll be able to get a video of their show for ya'll

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thank you! saw their region performance, and I think they have a shot at finals here if they clean up the closer. 

[Maestrogdub]

  On 10/18/2022 at 12:17 AM, Tubalord11 said:

thank you! saw their region performance, and I think they have a shot at finals here if they clean up the closer. 

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Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. 

[Tubalord11]

  On 10/18/2022 at 12:32 AM, Maestrogdub said:

Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. 

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Oh really, that’s a little surprising but understandable. I would have thought they would have wanted to go so they could get a feel of the area and where they stand since next year is a state year, but of course they have a reason. Still an amazing year for them! 

[Dave609]

  On 10/18/2022 at 12:32 AM, Maestrogdub said:

Melissa HS pulled out of the Area Contest and will not be attending. 

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Do you know why they dropped out?

[SkullEmoji]

  On 10/17/2022 at 3:20 AM, Sopranosaxman said:

I completely disagree with this, we've seen some weakness start to show in Wakelands program. Lone Star and and Forney have beaten them in music, this competition wouldn't have just been a lock. I really think that Lone Star has(had?) a good chance of beating them if not coming very very close to it. Duncanville should be a good competition for them though. 

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ur funny

[Samuel Culper]

  On 10/17/2022 at 11:19 PM, Dallas Hobbs said:

I was just thinking about that while reading the comments! A fail safe implemented into the show would’ve made things easier for them. It’s region so I don’t think the show needs to be performed completely in order for them to get a 1 anyways. 

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Exactly. It's a strategy that would be for Region only to ensure that you advance. 

[Dave609]

  On 10/18/2022 at 3:48 AM, krustyjoe said:

lone star doesn't stand a chance against wakeland this season. their best doesn't even beat wakeland at their worst. lone star is a strong program, don't get me wrong, but they aren't quite on the level of wakeland at the moment. with the amount of cleaning and nitpicking wakeland is able to do with their show, they just continue to widen the gap. 

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unfortunately though, Wakeland will not be at this contest. But I agree with you!

[SEAstar23]

  On 10/17/2022 at 9:51 PM, Zil said:

Is the 8 min time limit only enforced at Region? I thought I had read somewhere that the time limit rule is a bit different at area (or was it state?). And to add on the confusion, also different at BOA?

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I’ve never seen a penalty given out to a band at the Area or State level and there are plenty who have broken rules.

In regards to Wakeland’s situation, pointing fingers does no good but I will say I have been present for a UIL contest in which a major 6A Band had tech issues, started late but still got a 1 because the Band Director told the drum major to stop after the ballad, mid-performance.

Although it was awkward for the performers, they got off the field in time, got straight 1s and a heck of a story to tell.

[LisbethMom]

  On 10/18/2022 at 5:36 AM, TexasWoo1999 said:

I’ve never seen a penalty given out to a band at the Area or State level and there are plenty who have broken rules.

In regards to Wakeland’s situation, pointing fingers does no good but I will say I have been present for a UIL contest in which a major 6A Band had tech issues, started late but still got a 1 because the Band Director told the drum major to stop after the ballad, mid-performance.

Although it was awkward for the performers, they got off the field in time, got straight 1s and a heck of a story to tell.

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Lovejoy god downgraded a couple of years ago because they started practicing their show early.

What good are rules if they are not enforced? Rules level the playing field.

[DrumLine]

  On 10/18/2022 at 3:48 AM, krustyjoe said:

lone star doesn't stand a chance against wakeland this season. their best doesn't even beat wakeland at their worst. ... they just continue to widen the gap. 

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To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. 

And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next.

[JohnSmith]

Everyone here keeps acting like they know what went on with Wakeland, the only people who really know are those who actually performed with them that day. What happened happened and there's no point in throwing **** around about things you don't know. 

[krustyjoe]

  On 10/18/2022 at 1:25 PM, DrumLine said:

To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. 

And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next.

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nowhere did i say wakeland was unbeatable. i'm just saying they carry out a level of excellence that lone star currently isn't up to. nothing about any other bands

[Niceone]

  On 10/18/2022 at 1:25 PM, DrumLine said:

To say that is extremely unnecessary and naive. A few schools have started to close that gap. Wakeland is a very good band, but they're not unbeatable, as this season has shown. 

And in 6A, watch out for Rock Hill. New kids on the block are bringing it. They're traveling. That electric guitar solo is edgy. And the entire show, capped by that closing dance number, is fun. Can't wait to see what they do next.

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I am gonna say it at this competition wakeland is unbeatable. Sure they might lose a caption on some iffy performances at 8 am, but they have only been beat by 4 top 6a bands this whole season in finals (Hebron, flomo, Marcus, coppell by .135) they got beat by ld bell and westlake in prelims but thats just because of their early performance time compared to going right next to them making it easier for the judges to decide.

[tennertrumbow]

oh man this is getting pretty heated lol

 

I'm glad wakeland gets a good way to end their season off. I'm genuinely sad they won't be at area with us, I would have liked another chance to fight it out with them, regardless of the outcome