UIL 5A State Marching Contest 2024 (Nov. 4-5)

[LeanderMomma]

Also, you can watch it on that infernal football channel. 
 

https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/uil/gama76d4a348c

[LeanderMomma]

I am assuming this is the multicam link 

https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/uil/gama1015f8588

[DrumLine]

Really excited to see the CP-Rouse battle take place on the Alamodome field yet again. Last year's shows were incredible. In four trips, they've never left us disappointed. Can't wait to see how this year's contest shakes out.

[Beanbag52]

4 hours ago, OGFISD99 said:

I agree with you it's simple and clean...  I've said this to everyone in Frisco isd . Their show is not as captivating as last years.. In my opinion it's missing that magic...... Lone Star's  show has that magic of drawing everyone in ... especially when they move on to their ballad... The trombones sound rich and luscious.... then the mellowphones take it over and breath a bigger breath of life to it..... then finally the whole  band joins and gives it life..... I everytime i see the show i see new spectators eyes water up.... and with Wakeland I haven't seen it yet other than the parents of Wakeland...  Wakeland has a clean show  and music is not as dynamic as others but their cleanliness gets them the numbers.... 

Wakeland always performs their shows incredibly, but there’s only so much they can do with their lack of demand in their shows. In my opinion, for the last 4-5 years at least, they have had much easier shows than their FISD counter parts. Lone Star especially has an extremely high demand, but until this year, they could not execute it to the level that Wakeland does. But after seeing many performances from both schools all year it’s evident that Lone Star is not messing around, and if Wakeland wants to keep beating them, they’ll have to step up their game in that aspect. Not to take anything away form Wakeland, since what they do is still very difficult and performed at a very high level, but everyone is improving so much every year that I start to think they might not be able to get away with that this year.

[Beanbag52]

After doing a little research with Area scores and watching what videos I could find on YT, here are my predictions for Finals! Bottom 6 is pretty much based on what I’ve heard from others, last year, and Area scores from Saturday since I don’t know much about most of them.

🥇Cedar Park

🥈Rouse

🥉Lone Star

4. Wakleand

5. Leander

6. Aledo

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7. Hendrickson

8. Midlothian

9. Argyle

10. Friendswood

11-12 bubble: Centennial, Colleyville Heritage, McKinney North, Roma

 

 

 

[LeanderMomma]

I’m having a hard time picturing Lone Star above Leander simply because of how LS ended up 11th in finals a few weeks ago at BOA Prosper, and how Leander received several 2nd place ordinals at Area this past Saturday, ahead of both Rouse and of CP in several categories. 

I am not discounting Lone Star at all, in fact I LOVE their show!  I just think Leander is being a bit underestimated here. 

[Tubalord11]

Just now, LeanderMomma said:

I’m having a hard time picturing Lone Star above Leander simply because of how LS ended up 11th in finals a few weeks ago at BOA Prosper, and how Leander received several 2nd place ordinals at Area this past Saturday, ahead of both Rouse and of CP in several categories. 

I am not discounting Lone Star at all, in fact I LOVE their show!  I just think Leander is being a bit underestimated here. 

Yeah, I do agree with you. I think 5th or 6th is more realistic for them, especially like you said how Leander is really starting to come together and did place ahead of Rouse and CP by some of the judges and think them and Aledo will be battling in out for the last two spots in the top half. I do also think Leader is got a super strong shot at medaling this year, though ofc Wakeland is as good as ever. I personally think CP and Rouse have 1 and 2 locked down, but it could be closer than ever between 3rd and 6th. I'm really rooting for Argyle to make finals as well so they can have some strong momentum going into GN's!

[DumbBandLoser]

I can see it maybe happening 

5 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

I’m having a hard time picturing Lone Star above Leander simply because of how LS ended up 11th in finals a few weeks ago at BOA Prosper, and how Leander received several 2nd place ordinals at Area this past Saturday, ahead of both Rouse and of CP in several categories. 

I am not discounting Lone Star at all, in fact I LOVE their show!  I just think Leander is being a bit underestimated here. 

Lone Star won some ordinal points for first against Wakeland. Plus BOA judging also vastly differs from UIL. Especially since there GE is 60% of the points. I'm not making any statements about who's better than who, just providing the other side of the coin.

[Beanbag52]

5 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

I’m having a hard time picturing Lone Star above Leander simply because of how LS ended up 11th in finals a few weeks ago at BOA Prosper, and how Leander received several 2nd place ordinals at Area this past Saturday, ahead of both Rouse and of CP in several categories. 

I am not discounting Lone Star at all, in fact I LOVE their show!  I just think Leander is being a bit underestimated here. 

It’s difficult to rank bands I haven’t seen as much, but Leander is always incredible and never to be underestimated. Anything 3-6 is up in the air and will probably be very close. I don’t like taking BOA competitions from 3 weeks ago into account as much as Area, only 1. If you look at the breakdown scores, Lone Star was on par with Wakeland (bronze medalist last year) with only losing to them by 1 ordinal and having a better raw score. I have seen massive improvement from Lone Star these past few weeks and only see them improving more this week. Excited to see how the top 6 place!

[LeanderMomma]

1 minute ago, Beanbag52 said:

I have seen massive improvement from Lone Star these past few weeks and only see them improving more this week. Excited to see how the top 6 place!

I am really looking forward to seeing 5A finals live again in the Alamodome next Tuesday!  I know all of the bands are going to bring their best performances. 😊

Hope to see some of you there!

[DrumLine]

1 minute ago, Beanbag52 said:

It’s difficult to rank bands I haven’t seen as much, but Leander is always incredible and never to be underestimated. Anything 3-6 is up in the air and will probably be very close. I don’t like taking BOA competitions from 3 weeks ago into account as much as Area, only 1. If you look at the breakdown scores, Lone Star was on par with Wakeland (bronze medalist last year) with only losing to them by 1 ordinal and having a better raw score. I have seen massive improvement from Lone Star these past few weeks and only see them improving more this week. Excited to see how the top 6 place!

It'll be so much fun to see how third through sixth shakes out. And while it feels that 1-2 is a lock, it's always exciting for the possibility of the establishment being challenged. You just never know ...

[astronautika]

15 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

I’m having a hard time picturing Lone Star above Leander simply because of how LS ended up 11th in finals a few weeks ago at BOA Prosper, and how Leander received several 2nd place ordinals at Area this past Saturday, ahead of both Rouse and of CP in several categories. 

I am not discounting Lone Star at all, in fact I LOVE their show!  I just think Leander is being a bit underestimated here. 

The 11th at BOA Propser was pretty much the outlier of Lone Star's season, though. They came in 7th at BOA Bedford (with Aledo coming in 10th). 

[LeanderMomma]

1 minute ago, astronautika said:

The 11th at BOA Propser was pretty much the outlier of Lone Star's season, though. They came in 7th at BOA Bedford (with Aledo coming in 10th). 

I’m loving how unpredictable it all is this year. We might even see a new band at the top!  😍

[WanderingTraveler]

5 minutes ago, LeanderMomma said:

I’m loving how unpredictable it all is this year. We might even see a new band at the top!  😍

With how close CP and Rouse are, and how close Wakeland and LS were at area, I wouldn’t be surprised.

[ATrumpet]

2 hours ago, astronautika said:

The 11th at BOA Propser was pretty much the outlier of Lone Star's season, though. They came in 7th at BOA Bedford (with Aledo coming in 10th). 

That was an early run for Aledo as well though, they were missing their last movement and had an iffy run for finals. It will be super exciting to see Aledo and Lone Star battle it out at state though! I think both bands do different things extremely well.

[archeryfan0267]

11 minutes ago, ATrumpet said:

That was an early run for Aledo as well though, they were missing their last movement and had an iffy run for finals. It will be super exciting to see Aledo and Lone Star battle it out at state though! I think both bands do different things extremely well.

Bands will maybe only get a small amount of extra credit for having their whole show, otherwise the judges just judge what was performed. Not even close enough to warrant a 3 point gap.

Point is, and same story with Wakeland and Lone Star's huge gap at BOA Prosper followed by a photo finish at Area finals, is that while competitions can give us hints at placements literally anything can happen in 1-2 weeks between performances. 

[Absolute Bearing]

20 hours ago, Dave609 said:

Hey all, sorry I've been inactive most of the weekend. Was at an event and was just now able to get on here. Anyways, this weekend was an interesting one! Some new faces will be performing in the Alamodome for the first time as a State Qualifier and some faces are making a return for the first time in a while. Below is each Area with their qualifiers and their first/last time they have been to state (Bands that are bolded are first time state advancers!)-

 

Area A-

J.M. Hanks HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Lubbock-Cooper HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Lubbock HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
El Dorado HS

Area B-

Wakeland HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Lone Star HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
McKinney North HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Argyle HS (Last Appearance: 2021 (4A))

Area C-

North Mesquite HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Mesquite Poteet HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Mount Pleasant HS (Last Appearance: 1989 (4A))
Lakeview Centennial HS

Area D-

Hendrickson HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Pieper HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Lake Belton HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Jack C. Hays HS (Last Appearance: 2020 (6A))
Smithson Valley HS (Last Appearance: 2023)

 

Area E-

Friendswood HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
College Station HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Barbers Hill HS (Last Appearance: 2015 (5A))
A&M Consolidated HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Kempner HS
Angleton HS

Area F-

Aledo HS (Last Appearance: 2023))
Midlothian HS (Last Appearance: 2019 (5A))
Colleyville Heritage HS (Last Appearance: 2021 (5A))
Burleson Centennial HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Richland HS (Last Appearance: 2023)

Area G-

Roma HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Sharyland Pioneer HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Brownsville Lopez Early College HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Sharyland HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Rio Grande City HS (Last Appearance: 2021 (5A))

Area H-

Cedar Park HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Rouse HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Leander HS (Last Appearance: 2023)
Glenn HS (Last Appearance: 2019 (5A))
Liberty Hill HS (Last Appearance: 2023)

 

 

In total, 26 bands are making a return to state from last year, 8 schools are making a return after some time, and 4 bands are advancing to state for the first time! This is really exciting and I wish the best of luck to all schools!

I LOVE seeing bands make it to State for the first time!!! How incredibly exciting for those students, directors, and communities!!!!! 

[zxrzxz]

So I know a lot of people are expecting Cedar Park to be the winner again but I’m just wondering what are the chances we see Rouse finally pull out a win here? Personally I think they could do it. They’ve gotten closer and closer each year, and considering they tied last saturday, maybe this might be the year.

[BaritoneBallah]

12 minutes ago, zxrzxz said:

So I know a lot of people are expecting Cedar Park to be the winner again but I’m just wondering what are the chances we see Rouse finally pull out a win here? Personally I think they could do it. They’ve gotten closer and closer each year, and considering they tied last saturday, maybe this might be the year.

I don’t disagree, but Rouse and Cedar Park did not tie. It was a thin margin but Cedar Park won the competition and saying they tied when they didn’t makes your point sound less valid. 

[NotGodsHornline]

1 hour ago, bow_nerd said:

Bands will maybe only get a small amount of extra credit for having their whole show, otherwise the judges just judge what was performed. Not even close enough to warrant a 3 point gap.

Point is, and same story with Wakeland and Lone Star's huge gap at BOA Prosper followed by a photo finish at Area finals, is that while competitions can give us hints at placements literally anything can happen in 1-2 weeks between performances. 

Something I’ve noticed about Aledo’s show this year is how athletic it is. Up until the ballad those players are MOVING and visually this year is going amazing for them, I do think they will be battling with Lone Star this next Monday.

[Kmt1]

Does anyone have a breakdown of who the state judges are?   Who are they?  Where are they from? 

[OGFISD99]

7 minutes ago, Kmt1 said:

Does anyone have a breakdown of who the state judges are?   Who are they?  Where are they from? 

It's all on the UIL Website 

[2turle]

I might be the only one that notice but, Roma opener this year is the Argyle 2021 opener.

[rnoodles]

8 minutes ago, 2turle said:

I might be the only one that notice but, Roma opener this year is the Argyle 2021 opener.

this is also something ive noticed for a lot of other bands and so it made me curious. does anyone have information on the rules or lack of rules concerning bands using music books of other bands from previous years? for one example john paul stevens from san antonio used wakeland 2023’s ballad and cedar park’s 2022 closer and watching their show is what got me curious about it. not trying to demonize it i am just curious

[Atssbsax1]

2 minutes ago, rouseglazer1 said:

this is also something ive noticed for a lot of other bands and so it made me curious. does anyone have information on the rules or lack of rules concerning bands using music books of other bands from previous years? for one example john paul stevens from san antonio used wakeland 2023’s ballad and cedar park’s 2022 closer and watching their show is what got me curious about it. not trying to demonize it i am just curious

It's not banned because the band doesn't own the book. The band pays a composer to write their book and acquire copyright things to ve able to play it. Cedar park's show from last is being played in parts. The top 4as each have a part or two from Belle Mechanique. They also could give cedar park a run for their money. I'm joking but it's awesome to see. I would check it out.