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BlastFromThePast replied to BandPerson101's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
Interesting exercise here. If each judge's scores were normalized to the range 0.1-1.0 and added together instead of converting them to ordinals and adding those together (as currently done), these are the results: Oak Ridge and Grand Oaks swap places, as do Klein and Klein Collins (both by non-trivial amounts too). Not to take anything away from any band, but this more accurately represents the judges' true scores. Normalization preserves each judge's relative weighting per band (which ordinals do not) yet also keeps each judge's score equally weighted in the total (which is the argument put forth in favor of the ordinals calculation.) I can only think the results of other UIL competitions are similarly affected, perhaps even more significantly in some cases. Just to be clear: I don't have any horse in this race, except for mathematical fairness. I am passionate about this activity and would just prefer to see a better scoring calculation for all these hard-working students and TX UIL. Judging marching contests is subjective enough. The ordinals scoring calculation throws unintended noise into the mix. IMHO, using the total of normalized scores would yield more accurate, and thus fairer, comparisons. And it's a minor change too -- just in how the total is calculated. Nothing about judging itself would be affected. I'll be repeating this exercise on the State results. -
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BlastFromThePast replied to BandPerson101's topic in Past Contests, Events, and Festivals Archive
Congrats to all bands, but don't get me started on ordinal points. It's a mathematically challenged system. -
The UIL rubrics have changed a lot in just the past few years, and have been split into separate branches: Open Class and Military Class. So, UIL Open Class is much more aligned with BOA rubrics now. Perhaps that will eventually play out with TX bands taking home the Eagle more often. In general, TX bands do seem to be getting more competitive: The BOA San Antonio Super Regional and UIL State contests are very high level, arguably the highest nationwide as a whole. There just seem to be the few perennial exceptional bands (Avon, Carmel, Broken Arrow) that manage to stay on top at GN, though TX bands did break through in 2007, 2013, and 2019 (seems TX is due in 2025 ) As for "limitations of practice" -- I cannot imagine H.S. bands practicing any more than they already do! How would that even be possible and still get other things done such as, oh, class work ? What more do those consistent GN top placement bands actually do that don't have these limitations? Or are there other factors? But I suppose this is a discussion for another place.
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