UIL 6A Area J 2024

[txbandfan20]

Braswell's show and performance was really good. Well deserved.

[Tubafather26]

1 hour ago, rouseglazer1 said:

woah wylie in bottom half and braswell in top…….

I believe for UIL it’s done in random order and BOA it’s top 6 bottom six

[ChristopherRoden]

12 minutes ago, Tubafather26 said:

I believe for UIL it’s done in random order and BOA it’s top 6 bottom six

Not this year! New rule has been implemented for top half/bottom half split

[Inside man]

Apparently finals band retreat has been canceled due to weather.

[Dave609]

UIL 6A Area J Finals Results-

1st- Hebron HS (State Qualifier) (Area Champion)
2nd- Flower Mound HS (State Qualifier)
3rd- Marcus HS (State Qualifier)
4th- Prosper HS (State Qualifier)
5th- Braswell HS
6th- Wylie HS
7th- McKinney HS
8th- Wylie East HS
9th- McKinney Boyd HS
10th- Plano East HS

Congratulations to all Area J participants and best of luck to our 4 state qualifiers!!!

[slowbrass]

Can’t wait to see judges’ sheets for this one. DM me please if you’ve got em.

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Will have my recap of finals later or tomorrow….

But first…a vent

Area J….I know we are new….but…

pay extra for to parking lot attendants and police doing traffic control. This is ridiculous 

[BandDad74]

https://www.smbc.uiltexas.org/area/results/files/area-24_6A Area J 2024.pdf

[BandMom54321]

This is by no means a slight to the top four, I know they work hard,but how in the world does any school possibly compete against FloMo, Hebron, Prosper and Marcus. This area is setting smaller (less $) schools up for failure 

[clarineterrrr]

2 hours ago, BandMom54321 said:

This is by no means a slight to the top four, I know they work hard,but how in the world does any school possibly compete against FloMo, Hebron, Prosper and Marcus. This area is setting smaller (less $) schools up for failure 

that's just how the music world works. the guy with the most money wins. 

[MBHSBandFan]

I loved Braswell and really wanted to see them squeeze into the top 4. I knew it was unlikely because they weren’t as clean as the others, but I sure had all the feels with their show. 

[BigTo]

Area J is new this year, it consists of 20+ bands from Region 2, Region 24, and Region 25. There maybe some unconscious bias against Region 25 schools since none of them made it to State from this area. Region 2 has all the LISD bands and Braswell. Region 24 has Prosper, they all finished ahead of Wylie, Wylie East, every Plano HS, Princeton, and Allen high.

[BandDad74]

5 hours ago, clarineterrrr said:

that's just how the music world works. the guy with the most money wins. 

I don’t think there is as much money there as you think there is - at least from the district.   Lewisville ISD was facing  significant budget shortfall this past year and it led to lots of changes to classes at various levels and funding cutbacks (not that they gave a lot of money to the bands in the first place).    And you’d be surprised at how much fundraising has to happen to support these groups and how hard they have to work to make it all happen.

[Imwiththeeagleband]

Prosper family member here. Our district may have more money than some but they practice constantly and early mornings and late nights. These kids give their all. 

[BassBoneBro]

I think Rockhill should’ve made finals over Plano East

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Made the trip out to finals…..saw all 10 bands. Can’t argue too much with the results 1-10. I personally would have flipped  Braswell and Prosper based on finals. Many thought that 4th spot would be Prosper/Wylie so props to Braswell cracking top 5. 
 

I personally would have flipped Flower Mound and Hebron at the top. 
 

 

[BoneGuy4]

1 hour ago, Imwiththeeagleband said:

Prosper family member here. Our district may have more money than some but they practice constantly and early mornings and late nights. These kids give their all. 

No matter how much some people may dislike how much money yall get, no one can argue about what yall put on the field and it is never not entertaining! Congrats on making state in this packed area.

 

36 minutes ago, BassBoneBro said:

I think Rockhill should’ve made finals over Plano East

If you look at the point difference between Plano east and Rock Hill it is a 2 point gap, so they were super close.

[MarchingMafia]

29 minutes ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Made the trip out to finals…..saw all 10 bands. Can’t argue too much with the results 1-10. I personally would have flipped  Braswell and Prosper based on finals. Many thought that 4th spot would be Prosper/Wylie so props to Braswell cracking top 5. 
 

I personally would have flipped Flower Mound and Hebron at the top. 
 

 

Same, I would have put Flower Mound and Marcus over Hebron. I just wasn't crazy about their show although it was executed really well.

That's the thing with all these bands though, the kids will absolutely crush whatever show they're given. There's not a single band that works harder or longer than any other. Some have more money, some have more members, some have better middle school bands feeding their program... the variables are endless, but every single one of them deserves to win on the merit of their effort alone. It comes down to the show they're given and the combination of judges scoring it.

Who knows what the judges see that we don't. Sometimes it's a matter of pre-existing bias due to a judge's previous experience with a band's performance abilities, sometimes it's simply preference for a certain type of musical or visual artistry, other times I think they're plucking it out of thin air.

All I really know is that every single band on the field yesterday was amazing.

[BandDad74]

19 minutes ago, MarchingMafia said:

Same, I would have put Flower Mound and Marcus over Hebron. I just wasn't crazy about their show although it was executed really well.

That's the thing with all these bands though, the kids will absolutely crush whatever show they're given. There's not a single band that works harder or longer than any other. Some have more money, some have more members, some have better middle school bands feeding their program... the variables are endless, but every single one of them deserves to win on the merit of their effort alone. It comes down to the show they're given and the combination of judges scoring it.

Who knows what the judges see that we don't. Sometimes it's a matter of pre-existing bias due to a judge's previous experience with a band's performance abilities, sometimes it's simply preference for a certain type of musical or visual artistry, other times I think they're plucking it out of thin air.

All I really know is that every single band on the field yesterday was amazing.

I so completely agree.  At this level the amount of difference between the top bands is so small - that it does all come down to those silly little things that people see.  Someone takes a step out half a beat too early.  Someone stumbles and hits a half flat note.  Such little things - maybe even not any kind of mistake - but just a difference in the way they raise their hands in a movement or something….  

Same can be said about each of our opinions here - you flipped the rankings in your opinion because of those same things.  I had it slightly different for different things. 

 

But there is no doubt that all of these kids work their tushies off and pour all they can into this.  So great to see!

[TrenBS]

3 hours ago, BandDad74 said:

I don’t think there is as much money there as you think there is - at least from the district.   Lewisville ISD was facing  significant budget shortfall this past year and it led to lots of changes to classes at various levels and funding cutbacks (not that they gave a lot of money to the bands in the first place).    And you’d be surprised at how much fundraising has to happen to support these groups and how hard they have to work to make it all happen.

This is half true in my opinion, because while the district itself isnt exactly as wealthy as others, each of the 3 major band focused schools in this district report budgets that approach 1 million a year (Marcus on the lowest end), or exceed 1-1.1 million dollars a year (Flower Mound and Hebron), meanwhile schools like Boyd (placement is definitely accurate) only get 1/5 of that a year at best, averaging 150k-200k a year, and that could be on the higher end for this area easily since McKinney is a generally financially wealthy city (you can see all of this publicly since bands are non-profits)

Now I dont think budget absolutely correlates to success, or that the Lewisville schools are just handed money, but it definitely plays a solid factor in the quality of facilities, competitive opportunities, instruments, and overall music opportunities to these schools, which definitely correlates on a couple levels to their dominance, but again, they still need to work their butts of to utilize whats given to them, which they absolutely do, I just disagree with the initial statement and COULD come off as rude to actually financially poor districts

[flutie360]

It seems that we can expect area J to be a blood bath every single year…

I wonder though, is it a possibility some school could break into the top 3 and knock down one of the big 3s?

[JFNDOWBFAN]

38 minutes ago, MarchingMafia said:

Same, I would have put Flower Mound and Marcus over Hebron. I just wasn't crazy about their show although it was executed really well.

That's the thing with all these bands though, the kids will absolutely crush whatever show they're given. There's not a single band that works harder or longer than any other. Some have more money, some have more members, some have better middle school bands feeding their program... the variables are endless, but every single one of them deserves to win on the merit of their effort alone. It comes down to the show they're given and the combination of judges scoring it.

Who knows what the judges see that we don't. Sometimes it's a matter of pre-existing bias due to a judge's previous experience with a band's performance abilities, sometimes it's simply preference for a certain type of musical or visual artistry, other times I think they're plucking it out of thin air.

All I really know is that every single band on the field yesterday was amazing.

Well said

[JFNDOWBFAN]

16 hours ago, Tubafather26 said:

I believe for UIL it’s done in random order and BOA it’s top 6 bottom six

This year its top 5 bottom 5 and the. Random order within. So, yes, Wylie knew they were bottom 5. But would  be shocked if they were not 6th. 

[JFNDOWBFAN]

14 minutes ago, flutie360 said:

It seems that we can expect area J to be a blood bath every single year…

I wonder though, is it a possibility some school could break into the top 3 and knock down one of the big 3s?

We would be hard pressed to find an area that doesn’t think their top 2-3 are a bloodbath. It’s just a super bloodbath for J. 
 

I think Prosper, Braswell, Wylie (to name 3) can push for top 3 every year. Won’t Be easy to go up against the machines but they will give it a shot. 

[BassBone_2024]

1 hour ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Made the trip out to finals…..saw all 10 bands. Can’t argue too much with the results 1-10. I personally would have flipped  Braswell and Prosper based on finals. Many thought that 4th spot would be Prosper/Wylie so props to Braswell cracking top 5. 
 

I personally would have flipped Flower Mound and Hebron at the top. 

 

 

 

I had the same. I actually had Wylie over Prosper. Flower Mound, Hebron, Marcus, Braswell, Wylie, Prosper. Looking at the scoresheet from prelims, one judge put Braswell 3rd in music which means they knocked off a big dog.