BandNerd07 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Date: November 2, 2024 Location: Pennington Field (most likely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 Looking at Area B, I definitely thought this was one of the strongest areas last year due to how many programs attended, and how many state spots we had. There were 7 state spots, the most out of any area, but unfortunately that will most likely change this year. With several programs dropping to 5A, we may be back to only sending 5-6 bands to state. Last year we had 38 bands in Area B with 35 attending, but this year it looks like we are only going to have one program move up. So we’d only have 34 bands in the end, so the max number of bands we could advance to state would be 6, and it also doesn’t help that we have several programs fail to get a first division every single year, so we almost never send the maximum number of bands we possibly could have. Unless they realign the regions and areas, this area could just be a whole lot tougher these next two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal28 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, BandNerd07 said: Looking at Area B, I definitely thought this was one of the strongest areas last year due to how many programs attended, and how many state spots we had. There were 7 state spots, the most out of any area, but unfortunately that will most likely change this year. With several programs dropping to 5A, we may be back to only sending 5-6 bands to state. Last year we had 38 bands in Area B with 35 attending, but this year it looks like we are only going to have one program move up. So we’d only have 34 bands in the end, so the max number of bands we could advance to state would be 6, and it also doesn’t help that we have several programs fail to get a first division every single year, so we almost never send the maximum number of bands we possibly could have. Unless they realign the regions and areas, this area could just be a whole lot tougher these next two years. Which programs dropped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 Chisholm Trail, DeSoto, Fossil Ridge, Highland Park, and Paschal dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchycookie3 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 19 hours ago, BandNerd07 said: Chisholm Trail, DeSoto, Fossil Ridge, Highland Park, and Paschal dropped This doesn’t bode well for the chances of getting 6 or 7 to state. Hopefully the area gets redrawn this year to spread the wealth. Otherwise, this area becomes even more ridiculous yet again. BandNerd07 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, crunchycookie3 said: This doesn’t bode well for the chances of getting 6 or 7 to state. Hopefully the area gets redrawn this year to spread the wealth. Otherwise, this area becomes even more ridiculous yet again. Yeah, based on last year, we had 35 bands in prelims, so with the area losing 5, all 30 would need to make 1’s to take 6 to state, and if there were 5 bands that got 2’s last year, they’d all have to make 1’s to take 7, so the chances of only 5 going are looking somewhat high right now…. BandNerd07 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 34 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: Yeah, based on last year, we had 35 bands in prelims, so with the area losing 5, all 30 would need to make 1’s to take 6 to state, and if there were 5 bands that got 2’s last year, they’d all have to make 1’s to take 7, so the chances of only 5 going are looking somewhat high right now…. So basically we have 38 total bands in Area B and we are losing 5 and only gaining 1. Lancaster (the only band that Area B picks up) unfortunately has a long track record on getting not 1's, so that doesn't really help our case. If we take the three that didn't qualify (which are not going anywhere btw) plus Lancaster, we'd have exactly 30 bands, which means we can't have anymore bands that qualified last year not qualify this year or we'll only have 5 bands advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenBS Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 I posted a similar concern in area C with a similar problem, there are way too many high-level consistent groups over there with only 6 slots being reasonably possible to happen in that area, I think there needs to be an area J with the main "powerhouse ISD" being Prosper, especially with Richland high school (literally West Side Prosper, very on the nose lol) opening in 2025, the amount of state slots make zero sense with the skill of many of the bands and amount of them, and with Coppell, Waxahachie, and LISD never losing their lock slots until they lose their entire staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, TrenBS said: I posted a similar concern in area C with a similar problem, there are way too many high-level consistent groups over there with only 6 slots being reasonably possible to happen in that area, I think there needs to be an area J with the main "powerhouse ISD" being Prosper, especially with Richland high school (literally West Side Prosper, very on the nose lol) opening in 2025, the amount of state slots make zero sense with the skill of many of the bands and amount of them, and with Coppell, Waxahachie, and LISD never losing their lock slots until they lose their entire staff. I think the problem with North Texas is that there's just too many powerhouse regions and areas. Looking at the region side of things, I notice that there are extremely strong regions in North Texas, specifically regions 2 (LISD, Braswell, Byron Nelson), 24 (Little Elm, Prosper, and McKinney), and 31 (Coppell, HEB, Haltom, Carroll). Really every region is going to have a strong program (Rockwall and Forney from 3, Lake Ridge from 5, RISD, and Dville from 20, Plano from 25, and KISD from 30) but regions 2, 24, and 31 are the most notable. What really needs to happen is a major region/area realignment, even if it means forming a new region (like how 30/31 came to be in 2016) or just a new area, this issue needs to be responded. There is definitely no doubt that North Texas is the most competitve region in TX for marching band, even more so than Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc. Tubalord11 and TrenBS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenBS Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, BandNerd07 said: I think the problem with North Texas is that there's just too many powerhouse regions and areas. Looking at the region side of things, I notice that there are extremely strong regions in North Texas, specifically regions 2 (LISD, Braswell, Byron Nelson), 24 (Little Elm, Prosper, and McKinney), and 31 (Coppell, HEB, Haltom, Carroll). Really every region is going to have a strong program (Rockwall and Forney from 3, Lake Ridge from 5, RISD, and Dville from 20, Plano from 25, and KISD from 30) but regions 2, 24, and 31 are the most notable. What really needs to happen is a major region/area realignment, even if it means forming a new region (like how 30/31 came to be in 2016) or just a new area, this issue needs to be responded. There is definitely no doubt that North Texas is the most competitve region in TX for marching band, even more so than Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc. Very true, if North Texas just wasnt so compact it would be so much easier to transfer others to other regions and areas, but due to that being seemingly extremely hard to do currently I think a new area is bound to show up in 2026, with major alignments in preparation this February hopefully, because if not these next 2 years are going to be very frustrating for a lot of bands, cause only 2 areas for all of North Texas is hardly sustainable before bands just dont deem it worth the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, BandNerd07 said: I think the problem with North Texas is that there's just too many powerhouse regions and areas. Looking at the region side of things, I notice that there are extremely strong regions in North Texas, specifically regions 2 (LISD, Braswell, Byron Nelson), 24 (Little Elm, Prosper, and McKinney), and 31 (Coppell, HEB, Haltom, Carroll). Really every region is going to have a strong program (Rockwall and Forney from 3, Lake Ridge from 5, RISD, and Dville from 20, Plano from 25, and KISD from 30) but regions 2, 24, and 31 are the most notable. What really needs to happen is a major region/area realignment, even if it means forming a new region (like how 30/31 came to be in 2016) or just a new area, this issue needs to be responded. There is definitely no doubt that North Texas is the most competitve region in TX for marching band, even more so than Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc. I think if anything, we need a “North Texas” Area. I would say McKinney, Prosper, Wylie, Plano, and Allen schools from Area C, and Richardson, Coppell and very North Dallas schools into a new Area. Plenty of good stadiums to choose from, McKinney ISD, Children’s Health Center, Ect, but they definitely need to make a new one for North Texas TrenBS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenBS Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 48 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: I think if anything, we need a “North Texas” Area. I would say McKinney, Prosper, Wylie, Plano, and Allen schools from Area C, and Richardson, Coppell and very North Dallas schools into a new Area. Plenty of good stadiums to choose from, McKinney ISD, Children’s Health Center, Ect, but they definitely need to make a new one for North Texas I think having just Coppell as a legacy state finalist is a healthy option, as since North is going to become 6A in the coming years, the repeated success of McKinney, Prosper, and Wylie schools allows for healthy competition while not being completely impossible for an upset which is about to occur with the current area C since I severely doubt there will be any major upset that beat most/all of the consecutive finalists. Coppell being there allows for a bar for the more well-established bands to try and reach without it being impossible, and it takes a load off of the Area B bands, I don't really care if Boyd falls off and doesn't make it I just want it to be more fair for less established bands to get noticed and to experience state Tubalord11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchycookie3 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 It is official- UIL Area B is regions 5, 30, and 31. Waxahachie and Duncanville are no longer in this area. Cedar Hill Mansfield Legacy Lake Ridge Arlington Bowie Houston Lamar Martin Grand Prairie South Grand Prairie LD Bell Trinity Southlake Carroll Keller Keller Central Timber Creek Haltom Boswell Weatherford Crowley North Crowley This is 22 schools- it looks like there will be a maximum of only 4 bands to state from this area, which means the bloodbath continues (and is honestly probably worse) between Keller, Timber Creek, Bell, Coppell, Keller Central, and Southlake. Not to mention Haltom, who qualified to the state contest last year. Asaiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 25 minutes ago, crunchycookie3 said: It is official- UIL Area B is regions 5, 30, and 31. Waxahachie and Duncanville are no longer in this area. Cedar Hill Mansfield Legacy Lake Ridge Arlington Bowie Houston Lamar Martin Grand Prairie South Grand Prairie LD Bell Trinity Southlake Carroll Keller Keller Central Timber Creek Haltom Boswell Weatherford Crowley North Crowley This is 22 schools- it looks like there will be a maximum of only 4 bands to state from this area, which means the bloodbath continues (and is honestly probably worse) between Keller, Timber Creek, Bell, Coppell, Keller Central, and Southlake. Not to mention Haltom, who qualified to the state contest last year. ONLY 4 SPOTS😭😭😭 This might be the most competitive Area B ever simply bc of that. I fee Like Keller and Coppell are locks, TC and Bell will most likely take the other two spots but KC,SLC and some other programs will have a something to say as well, my god this is gonna be insane!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 Wow, I am just in shock of how much smaller they made Area B. From 38 bands to 7 maximum qualifiers to 22 bands and 4 maximum qualifiers, that is just insane. Right now, I'd honestly have to say that Coppell is the only lock here. While Keller, TC and Bell will probably get the other spots, we can't leave out SLC, KC, or Haltom who could potentially pull off a major upset. And it is also imperative that we get as many 1st division bands as possible now that there are more limited spots than ever. Last year Lamar and Sam Houston didn't qualify and Bowie, Cedar Hill and GP barely snuck themselves in. Hopefully next year we can have most if not all bands get a 1st division at region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostChoirGuy Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Coppell is still in this area, right? It isnt on the list of 22 bands above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 6 minutes ago, LostChoirGuy said: Coppell is still in this area, right? It isnt on the list of 22 bands above. Yeah they still are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostChoirGuy Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: Yeah they still are So are there 23 schools in the area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardmom07 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Maybe I was misinformed. I thought that every school could possibly go to the state competition yearly now. Is it still every other year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, LostChoirGuy said: So are there 23 schools in the area? Yes it looks like it, but we still will unfortunately only get 4 to state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Just now, Guardmom07 said: Maybe I was misinformed. I thought that every school could possibly go to the state competition yearly now. Is it still every other year? No it’s still every year for all conferences. There’s just been some changes in the schools in each area and creation/getting rid off some areas, but everyone can go to state every year! Guardmom07 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandNerd07 Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 43 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said: Yes it looks like it, but we still will unfortunately only get 5 to state. We actually will only have 4 bands to state because you need need at least 25 bands to send 5. Since there's only 23, there will only be 4 to state. And another thing i have observed is that some bands that missed finals last year would make it this year, for instance, Lake Ridge, Trinity and Legacy. Here would be the results of this "modified" area based on last year's results: 1. Coppell** 2. LD Bell** 3. Timber Creek** 4. Keller** 5. Haltom* 6. Southlake Carroll* 7. Keller Central* 8. Lake Ridge* 9. Trinity* 10. Legacy* 11. Boswell 12. Mansfield 13. South Grand Prairie 14. Martin 15. North Crowley 16. Crowley 17. Arlington 18. Weatherford 19. Bowie 20. Cedar Hill 21. Grand Prairie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalord11 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, BandNerd07 said: We actually will only have 4 bands to state because you need need at least 25 bands to send 5. Since there's only 23, there will only be 4 to state. And another thing i have observed is that some bands that missed finals last year would make it this year, for instance, Lake Ridge, Trinity and Legacy. Here would be the results of this "modified" area based on last year's results: 1. Coppell** 2. LD Bell** 3. Timber Creek** 4. Keller** 5. Haltom* 6. Southlake Carroll* 7. Keller Central* 8. Lake Ridge* 9. Trinity* 10. Legacy* 11. Boswell 12. Mansfield 13. South Grand Prairie 14. Martin 15. North Crowley 16. Crowley 17. Arlington 18. Weatherford 19. Bowie 20. Cedar Hill 21. Grand Prairie I meant 4 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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