TexasStrangers

As of now, unless the cutoff numbers go down which I doubt. SS and Lindale will stay in 4A. Kaufman is on the fence and Anna for sure is going to move up.

I'm pretty sure the cutoff numbers are going to go up compared to what they were last year. How much higher it goes is unknown at this moment.

Congrats on Whitesboro winning, I thought Holiday possibly could have squeaked out a victory. I have not seen the individual scoring cards yet but I think in the end it just depended on which judges liked which show. I could see one judging group choosing Holiday and a different group choosing Mineola. The prelims scores looked a bit all over the place with one judge. With the State Contest now every year I see Whitesboro/Mineola/Holiday on another level with Atlanta closing the gap.

That’s what I heard several people telling me and that is what happened in the 5A Finals last night

Anyone watching finals?

The bottom 5 go in random order 1st through 5th and the top 5 go in random order last 6th through 10.

Yup lots of good shows tonight!

Every Prelim State Event has a college band performing in Exhibition to showcase their program if graduating seniors want to continue a music career.

Lots of good shows to get us started in the morning block. Looking forward to seeing a few others in the 2nd set like Redwater and Whitesboro and Mineola to wrap up Prelims.

Good luck to all the bands today!! Can’t wait to watch it!

I think with State now being every year it's going to hurt the smaller programs or the programs that are under funded. A lot of the smaller schools simply don't have the budget to be able to compete at a high level every year with the exception of a few schools that have heavily involved Boosters. I think the big names you see all the time will just keep on ticking with no problems.

Anyone going to be watching the 3A Competition? Lots of good bands here!!

darn Cedar Park just blew me away with that performance. I think half the stadium was on its feet.

Final Results!! 10th Place - Anahuac 9th Place - Hooks 8th Place - Tatum 7th Place - Quitman 6th Place - Orangefield 5th Place Advances to State - Queen City 4th Place Advances to State - Atlanta 3rd Place Advances to State - Winnsboro 2nd Place Advances to State - Redwater 1st Place Advances to State - Mineola

Advancing to Finals at 6:30 6:30 Hooks 6:45 Atlanta 7:00 Anahuac 7:15 Queen City 7:30 Winnsboro 8:00 Orangefield 8:15 Tatum 8:30 Mineola 8:45 Redwater 9:00 Quitman

Good luck to all the 1A/3A/5A Bands that will be competing on Saturday (28th) Class 3A Area C Schedule 10 Bands will make Finals 5 Bands will Advance to State 11:45 Kountze 12:00 Tatum 12:15 Hardin 12:30 Winnsboro 12:45 Atlanta 1:00 BREAK 1:15 Arp 1:30 Mineola 1:45 Tarkington 2:00 Redwater 2:15 Prairiland 2:30 Anahuac 2:45 Break 3:00 Mt. Vernon 3:15 Orangefield 3:30 Pewitt 3:45 Quitman 4:00 Queen City 4:15 Hooks 4:30 SFA Lumberjack Band Exhibition Finals Begin at 6:30

Yeah, but I don't know if I feel good about being in the first block with that much potential talent in 4A. Unless something happens or somebody proves me wrong I bet the Finals will all be familiar schools from last year with maybe 1 or 2 jumping in.

Area C schedule for the 28th https://www.uilregion21.org/uploads/cms/nav-24-653048f5f3d00.pdf

It took me awhile to find it but here is Area D schedule for the 28th... https://uilmusicregion8.com/marching/area-d-marching-contest/

Your thoughts are valid and everyone has an opinion. A lot of it just depends on the judges and I think as a school you have to really understand what judges are looking for. I was not taking any offense to what you said. When UIL did realignment 2yrs ago the cutoff was 514 to go to 4A. I expect that number to be higher when the numbers come out this year for the 2024-2025 school year. I don't really expect any 3A's from Area C to be moving up to 4A. In the event at Royse City, Mineola almost had #1 in Prelims over the defending 4A State Champ Celina. I have to agree that Atlanta, Mineola, Redwater are the top 3 and will probably finish in some order. Winnsboro I think could make it in as well and Queen City maybe for #5 or maybe a Mt. Vernon who finished 1 spot out of the State 2 yrs ago or maybe an unknown band program on the rise.

If you go back and look at the last 3A State Finals in 21 all 5 of the schools that represented Area C made Finals and finished in the Top 7. Last year, in Area the same 5 schools once again would have advanced to State if there was a contest with Mineola winning Area but also having the overall highest score in any 3A Area Contest last year. The last time I looked I do not believe Mineola and Atlanta are carrying 125 band members. I think Area C will be interesting as Winnsboro/Atlanta/Queen City/Redwater have all competed against each other a few times this season while Mineola has been going up against mostly 4A/5A schools that have been in State Finals. Whoever makes it to State and eventually wins is going to have to earn it. Area C is a very very strong division for marching bands.

Region 4 3A Results from Mt. Pleasant today. Atlanta - 1 Daingerfield - 2 Dekalb - 2 Elysian Fields - 3 Gladewater - 1 Harmony - 2 Hooks - 1 Hughes Springs - 2 Jefferson - 3 Mineola - 1 Mt. Vernon - 1 New Boston - 1 New Diana - 1 Pewitt - 1 Prairiland - 1 Queen City - 1 Quitman - 1 Redwater - 1 Sabine -1 Waskom - 2 White Oak - 1 Winnsboro - 1

Snapshot number have already been turned into UIL. They will be meeting in the few months to decide what the enrollment cut numbers will be for each classification. Just because there are schools that are on the edge of going up, they may not because the enrollment cut numbers do not stay the same and usually go up based on the numbers turned in. So, you could have a school that is under by 100 2 yrs ago turn in something that is over 200 and end up still in the same classification if the cut scores get raised. There has been talk of a 7A but I don't see how that can happen with some of those schools would then end up having to drive 3-4 hours just to play each other. I think there will probably be a 6A Division 3. There are more schools that move up then move down. If I remember, I think UIL releases the new districts in Feb or Mar.

One of the teams that made state back in 2021 will not return as Westwood did not make it out of regionals this past weekend. Region 4 3A Tuesday 10/16 in Mt. Pleasant with 5 schools that made state finals in 2021 performing (Queen City, Atlanta, Redwater, Winnsboro and Mineola) for a chance to go to Area on 10/28 at SFA.

I guess we won't really know what happened unless we see the Final Score Card for the judges. All the bands in the finals are very talented and very deserving. I just like to go back and look at lots of band competition scores cards to see how they compare to each other to understand maybe how a band missed out on placement or making finals. You typically see trends of some kind of a glaring weakness that sticks out.