TexasStrangers

So Panther Creek, Sulphur Springs, China Springs, Celina and Davenport are the Top 5 in some order after prelims.

The directors typically get ordinals and then they shared them if they want. Most directors don't share them.

I didn't get to see the shows but I guess something happened in the Rivercrest show from them to go from a 2-2 in Visuals to a 6-5 which hurt them big time. Congrats to all the winners.

I predicted they would be around 5th which is where they finished. I didn't think they would win with having a new director this year and getting beat by both Mineola at Princeton and also getting beat by Commerce at BOA Prosper.

It is me or was the prelim scoring some of the craziest scoring I have seen in quite some time. I heard from a couple of schools that one of the judges had an issue and was replaced before the contest by someone from out of state and the scores were crazy.

Class 3A Final Results 10th Hitchcock 9th Orange Grove 8th Holiday 7th C.H. Yoe 6th Clifton 5th Whitesboro 4th Raymondville 3rd Redwater 2nd Atlanta 1st Mineola

Band directors do but unless they give it out then nobody else knows. The judges score sheets will not be public until after Finals.

Class 3A Finals Performance Schedule 9:30 Redwater 9:15 Raymondville 9:00 Atlanta 8:45 Mineola 8:30 Whitesboro 8:15 C.H Yoe 8:00 Holiday 7:45 Clifton 7:30 Orange Grove 7:15 Hitchcock

In no order Atlanta Redwater Mineola Howe Holiday Whitesboro Raymondville Commerce Queen City Winnsboro

There are quite a few to watch that are the usual top bands (Atlanta, Mineola, Redwater, Whitesboro, Commerce, Cameron Yoe) and a few others who I expect to step it up.

Anyone you are looking forward to seeing?

Yes, good luck to everyone today. I'm grabbing some breakfast and heading that way to watch. Anyone else watching today?

Right, since they split the military bands I don't recall any of them wanting to compete in Area because most of the time regardless of good they perform they would never earn enough points to beat a decent open show band. Show bands are judged on a different scale and have more opportunities to earn points.

It's pretty common thing in UIL events. If 10 schools go to finals then the schools that were 6th-10th draw to see who plays first in the first half of Finals and the schools that are 1-5 in Prelims draw to see who plays first in the 2nd half of Finals. This is the reason why you want to have a good run in Prelims to not only get into Finals but get into the 2nd half. However, just because you get in the 2nd half or 1st half of finals does not guarantee anything. I have seen schools have an average prelims, perform in the first half and knock it out of the park and moved up to medal at the end.

Yup, it's very close this year with Mineola/Redwater/Atlanta. They were all separated by 3pts at Area.

Area C has numerous schools that are military schools. So if a military school advances at the Regional Level then they automatically skip Area and advance straight to the State Military Marching Contest but their spot still counts at Area. I believe Area C has 36 schools qualify for Area but 12 were Military Schools and got to skip Area. However, their spot still counts in Area advancement, hence the reason Area C got to send 7 schools to State. Area C has many military schools in 4A/3A/2A where as Area B only has a few.

Of course not to mention at State there are two completely different sets of judges. One group judges the prelims then gets sent home and a new fresh group of judges comes in and does the finals without seeing the teams during prelims.

UIL has released the Program for this week! Anyone going to any of the contests? I am checking how the 5A Prelims tomorrow then going to watch 5A Finals tomorrow and then watch all the 3A action on Wednesday. https://indd.adobe.com/view/15ceb03d-9443-40c5-9a9f-71d79025a12c?fbclid=IwY2xjawGU2lRleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHZlWMlR605BMIlHMMQoLWAC-1mXZS8t-ruLkuDJ26unpGrwANhf7ei1b7A_aem_nQDd9FfYZJvmqoh6pQsU4w

No worries, I didn't say anything about bribes. I believe at the state level contests, there is a system in place where UIL actually monitors the judges who are scoring the contests as it is going on in case someone decides to go rogue. No judging contest is going to be 100% accurate which I believe the 4A State Contest is actually going to use the "7 Judging System" this year as a pilot. Yes, there were some scores in the 4A Area C that had you scratching your head but in the end I think it all worked out like it should. I realize everyone wants their school to win but in the end I don't think anybody is getting screwed or cheated. The judges at the end of the day are being evaluated too by UIL and if you have someone that does a terrible job then they don't get asked back again.

I also believe a lot of people don't realize that the music selections play a huge part in the scoring system as well. It's almost like gymnastics, the harder the routine or the harder the music you actually get a boost which could result in higher scoring. I see lots of schools with a good march but play music that is not very difficult at all. Of course let's not forget visuals, several bands can march but have a difficult time putting visuals in the show.

I am not an expert at all this, was just simply making small talk with a director and talking about the level of competition. Could it be the reason more bands advanced to state was because not only with the addition of 25 but also it appeared in every class (5A,4A,3A,2A) there were more bands then ever that got 1's and advanced to Area then last year. If you would have taken all the military bands out from this Area then only 4 would have advanced to state leaving out Farmersville, Lumberton and PG.

I was talking to a director yesterday whose school made it to state and he told me what UIL did to Area was not right adding all these bands from Area B to Area C making it harder for schools to qualify in all classifications.

I can't remember the last time Canton didn't make State.

Glad to see Farmersville finally get in. I think they had been alternate in Area B for like the past 3 contests.

Anyone got the schedule of finals?