BlastFromThePast
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1 hour ago, Asaiah said:
Yeah, for all the bands going to Nats on 3-year and 4-year rotations, it's almost impossible time it right. Marcus was going every 4 years, so they only went to GN three times during their 10 year dynasty, and sadly never won a medal. But LD Bell and The Woodlands were going to GN every year or nearly every year in order to get their titles. And Vandegrift was the exception that proved the rule: it takes consistent attendance to win the Eagle.
TW went in 2006 (where they were class champs but placed 4th in finals, after drawing 1st performance slot). They went again in 2007 and have alternated years since then as to not conflict with UIL State. Wonder how UIL State being every year now will affect TX representation at Grand Nats.
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Seems Hebron & Carmel will be duking it out at the top, and Avon & TW just under them. Agree we should probably (?) see a captions split, but there are always surprises. Amazing level of accomplishment by all these bands.
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4 minutes ago, Origin said:
Brownsburg is an interesting one for me. Visually they are approaching a top half of finals level, but the music performance is not near that level, so I don’t know where they’ll end up. But based on how high they scored at the Indy SR, I would be shocked if they missed finals.
Yes, this show had me a little confused. Some visual parts didn’t seem to complement the music very well. Nice color effects though.
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Pearland, what a striking show. I like the traditional symmetric design punctuated by key moments of asymmetry. Their program has come a long ways competitively these last few years. Looking forward to their finals performance.
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Go TWHS! (my hometown). Love the tight design and focused energy of this show, been really fun to watch it develop over the season. Wondering if the relative sparseness of the music will be an issue in scoring.
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Nothing like a concert hall performance while doing insane marching. Amazing Carmel.
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2 minutes ago, Hard Core Band Fan said:
Just curious how you assess a win for them without seeing at least three other serious contenders.
Agree, I hear Carmel is incredible this year and there are other serious contenders this afternoon. Hebron was amazing but nothing is a given at this point.
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Incredible. Nobody blows the top off the stadium like Hebron. I regret not being there just for this. #nevermissagain
- Tubalord11, 5 te 6, JRZ and 1 other
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Just now, ChristopherRoden said:Dripping Springs?!? WOW !!! Incredible show!
And just like that, another top-level marching band from TX arrives on the scene. Is this their first GN? Amazing the support for bands in this state.
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Wondering if I can get one of those Morton set pieces for my backyard (before they put the covers on). Nice contrabass clarinet, don't hear that often in marching band!
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2 minutes ago, Tubalord11 said:
Blue Springs has left me speechless.....what a beautiful show!! That Sparano Sax played with such a perfect tone! Visually stunning, and musically just amazing, the ending, while very long, added so much emotional power to the show. I mean, it's a "weird" show design, don't get me wrong, but the execution is top notch, I mean wow wow wow, great job Blue Springs!
Playing that soprano sax solo with such expression would be very nerve wracking in that huge suspended silence! Excellent.
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Here's a visualization of the finals scoresheet (data taken from finals recap PDF posted by BOA). I'll post one after Indy GN finals too.
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14 hours ago, packwick said:
oooo, some seemingly really nutty results in those ordinals. uil, gurl, u spicy!!!
The ordinals system is mathematically, er, "challenged". It introduces an element of randomness (you could say spiciness) into the overall rankings. Thus there can be position shuffling in the overall placements that have little to do with the judges' actual scores. Without seeing the score sheets, I can't say that happened in this particular contest. But being a "fuzzy" subjective contest in the first place, IMHO it'd be better if the scoring system wouldn't add this additional spice. Then again, maybe it just adds to the excitement.
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6 minutes ago, washedupalum2017 said:
how has the livestream been? considering subscribing for finals...
Was pretty good for the most part during prelims, definitely worth $12. I wish the ensemble field mics could be better -- the audio is a bit muddy. But it is hard to mic an entire band that's moving around a large field...
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Nice little BOA 2022 wrap-up here, with TXBands bloggers. I'd be interested to see the notes Daniel Valdez said he was taking on Carmel's GN finals performance.
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1 hour ago, Dallas Hobbs said:
Calling it useless is harsh and unnecessary.
I think it is most useful when comparing bands that have performed at the same contests since sometimes programs peak at SA and score lower at grand nats. But i like the comparisons because it says a lot about how well a program is performing that season if they manage to score higher than a grand nats finalist.
Agree that scores from different contests can't be directly merged and compared like that.
Yet, I also agree it is useful. If you look at any given band's BOA scores throughout the season, they nearly always increase from contest to contest (e.g., Regional -> Super Regional -> GN). Placement changes from contest to contest happen because a band improves their score over time more than other bands, rather than bands' scores declining.
So it seems reasonable to assume that most, if not all, of the SA finals scores represent a minimum of what they would have scored at GN (barring a major disaster of course). What's more unpredictable is how much higher these bands would have scored at GN.
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2 hours ago, Efrin said:
Correct. And this is a perfect example of how the ordinal scoring system can (intentionally) produce a different champion than a "highest total" scoring system. Hebron had the higher total score (6,883 vs. 6,858) but 5 of the 7 judges ranked Vandegrift higher. Pretty sure UIL would tell you that this is a feature, not a bug.
Yep. Mapping each judge's score to an ordinal before adding them together introduces statistically random "noise" into the total score for each band. Perhaps this is what makes UIL results more surprising/unpredictable than other contests -- the element of randomness. Maybe this approach is meant to counter some of the subjectiveness.
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I know, I know, different performances, different set of judges. Scores can't be compared directly between semis and finals. STILL, interesting to see the shifting.