mnkyman Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 so yeah as a woodwind..i cant march core unless i do a brass instrument.. and from what ive heard its not hard to learn a euphonium...is that true?.. and is all the euphonium music in bass clef ..or reble and bass?...i read treble..i can read bass..but just not as good as treble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHtubaNja Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 its corp not core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyman Posted August 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 oh yeah... ^ but thanks for your unuseful info there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHtubaNja Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 oh yeah... ^ but thanks for your unuseful info there sorry, i'd say baritone would be the easiest. and yes they do write it in treble and bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyman Posted August 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 isnt bariton and euphonium the same? (i know a brass person is gonna slap me in the face with this comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarinot Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I want to be a drummer. yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHtubaNja Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 isnt bariton and euphonium the same? (i know a brass person is gonna slap me in the face with this comment a marching euphonium is like a barione supersized. dont get it confused with a contrabass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyman Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 oh yeah..the marching ones ok.. well yeah our band just uses normal euphoniums..so im not use to saying baritone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRtrumpet Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I've also heard that the eauph is the easiest to learn. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHtubaNja Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I've also heard that the eauph is the easiest to learn. Why is that? because of the size of the mouth piece i guess? and its also written in treble and bass, im not sure if any other low brass insturment is written in both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 All good euphonium music is written in Bass. If you are going to play euphonium, you should definitly become fluent with Bass Clef. Give it 2 months... thats how long it took me. Baritone/Euph (there is a difference, described below) is the easiest to learn because the embochure is relaxed. Given that a tuba's embochure is even more relaxed than a euph, it requires a lot more air and can be especially hard for a beginner to pick up. Now the infamous question: What is the difference between a baritone and euphonium. Well, the answer is not that one is bigger or that one has 4 valves. The answer is in the size of the tubing. A euphonium's tubing is described as conical. The size of the pipe is continually increasing as the tubing moves through the valves. A baritone's pipes are always the same diameter (until it starts getting bigger for the bell portion). For my school, the marching baritones use a small shank (smaller pipe size) and thus require less air. (Thats not saying large bore horns don't exist). Almost all marching euphoniums use a large shank mouthpiece. All (good) corps march a euphonium because the sound is better, and its nearly impossible to make an edgy on them. Just a note: The ONLY a baritone (not euphonium) part would be written in Treble clef is usually in military marches or any piece that requires a Bb Baritone part. (Euphoniums and Baritones are normally in Concert C pitch, not Bb, so its written in treble clef). For example, the Grainger piece Lincolnshire Posy has a Bb Baritone part in treble. and finally, there is no such thing as a drum core or corp. Its always CORPS, plural or singular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 its corp not core. It's corps not corp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRtrumpet Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I tried to play my friends euph and it was pretty hard... but thats probly kus im a trumpet player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actualgirltrombone Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Baritone/Euph (there is a difference, described below) is the easiest to learn because the embochure is relaxed. Given that a tuba's embochure is even more relaxed than a euph, it requires a lot more air and can be especially hard for a beginner to pick up. Hey... the trombone embochure is exactly the same as the euph embochure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hey... the trombone embochure is exactly the same as the euph embochure! True, the embochure may be the same but no corps march trombones. Plus, valve combinations for 1 horn = all other marching horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actualgirltrombone Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 True, the embochure may be the same but no corps march trombones. Plus, valve combinations for 1 horn = all other marching horns. I'm not coordinated to use valves, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHtubaNja Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 I'm not coordinated to use valves, LOL. its not that hard...i switched from trombone to baritone for one marching season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelirojo947 Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hey... the trombone embochure is exactly the same as the euph embochure! actually, the embrochure is the same, but for a good euphonium sound, you are supposed to blow your air straight into the mouthpiece where as in a trombone you are supposed to point your air more downwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducktape1541 Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I have found that even though I have a pretty good sound on trombone, my sound on the baritone is not near as good because the desired sound is slightly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bariphonium Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 The baritone/euphonium sound is usually much more mellow than a trombone, though they can use the same mouthpiece. There are baritones and euphoniums that use both small and large bore mouthpieces, and it's generally agreed that the large bore mouthpieces make better sounds, mainly because they can open up the sound more, regardless of the player. What you DON'T, I emphasize the DON'T, want to do, is play on both at the same time. I'm using both currently, and though my baritone (small bore) doesn't sound too bad, my euphonium (aka concert horn, large bore) sound is about 50 cents flat on my middle Bb. I could tune to that note, but then i'd be 50 cents sharp on my F. Since we usually play a bunch of F's in band, I'm trying to work on adjusting my emboushure (sp?) for the tuning to the Bb. The two mouthpiece sizes are what's getting at me (I used to use small bore euphonium, but got switched), but I should be able to adjust by the time region comes up. Still, I don't recommend using both at the same time. As far as learning the euphonium goes, it shouldn't be too hard, so long as you buzz a lot to get used to the emboushure (sp?), and get used to the 3-valve fingerings. It's a good switch for trumpets who lack range; I can testify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonTrumpetSL Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 None of this matters. Soprano rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Yeah, that's pretty much it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRtrumpet Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bariphonium Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Q: How does a soprano change a lightbulb? A: They hold up the lightbulb and the world revolves around them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EODrillDesigner98 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 so yeah as a woodwind..i cant march core unless i do a brass instrument.. and from what ive heard its not hard to learn a euphonium...is that true?.. and is all the euphonium music in bass clef ..or reble and bass?...i read treble..i can read bass..but just not as good as treble Hey! mnkyman You can also learn mallet instruments too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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