Texas 4A Area C 2025 marching band predictions.

[TexasStrangers]

On 6/6/2025 at 3:46 PM, SETXgal said:

My thoughts were that most strong competitive programs selected their music & music/drill/choreo staff months ago. If a band program hasn't figured that stuff out by May....

Most good programs from what I gather have an idea in Jan/Feb what they want to do just have to do all the other things to start putting it together. 

[BandDad85]

 

Here is the Van Alstyne Show for this year.  there is a glitch in the video YouTube did a copyright on some of the audio
 

 

[Gpk1968]

On 6/3/2025 at 10:32 PM, Gigger_Frog said:

Has Celina released there show yet?

I just saw it on their Facebook page. It’s “Notre Dame de Paris”

Should be cool! They always do artistic takes on themes. 

[Fanboy]

3 hours ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

I just saw it on their Facebook page. It’s “Notre Dame de Paris”

Should be cool! They always do artistic takes on themes. 

Can you share the link? Can’t find it anywhere

[Gpk1968]

1 hour ago, Fanboy said:

Can you share the link? Can’t find it anywhere

Nothing to share. It wasn’t a show reveal; it was an announcement about a fundraiser and the name of the show was mentioned. They seem to always be tight-lipped about their shows, so I wasn’t expecting to know anything for a few more weeks. It’s the last thing they posted on the band FB page. 

[TexasStrangers]

Looks like Area is going to be back in Lindale again this year. I know they did some road construction in Lindale on the street leading to the high school I don't know if that helped any or not. 

[Gpk1968]

7 hours ago, TexasStrangers said:

Looks like Area is going to be back in Lindale again this year. I know they did some road construction in Lindale on the street leading to the high school I don't know if that helped any or not. 

Man. That was a miserable contest last year. The rain, the parking. I was starving but absolutely did not want to lose my parking spot so I stayed put and survived on some questionable stadium food. 

[rudy12]

Way to early predictions:

1 Celina

2 Sulphur Springs

3 North Lamar

4 Canton

5 Farmersville

6 Pleasant Grove

7 Pine Tree

8 Bridge City

9 Lumberton

10 Wills Point

11 Community

12 Van Alstyne

[J-Mike16]

1 hour ago, rudy12 said:

Way to early predictions:

1 Celina

2 Sulphur Springs

3 North Lamar

4 Canton

5 Farmersville

6 Pleasant Grove

7 Pine Tree

8 Bridge City

9 Lumberton

10 Wills Point

11 Community

12 Van Alstyne

Interesting....

[J-Mike16]

I'm not going to predict much until the first few competitions start happening as last year, I kept getting slammed with backlash for having opinions of my own. 

[SETXgal]

10 hours ago, rudy12 said:

Way to early predictions:

1 Celina

2 Sulphur Springs

3 North Lamar

4 Canton

5 Farmersville

6 Pleasant Grove

7 Pine Tree

8 Bridge City

9 Lumberton

10 Wills Point

11 Community

12 Van Alstyne

So this is just based off reputation?

[rudy12]

3 hours ago, SETXgal said:

So this is just based off reputation?

I think the way it shaked out at the end of the year has a lot to do with it. I thought it was weird how different the ranks were from area last year to the state rank. Also, I think Canton not going was a fluke. There is no good reason to count on Celina not winning. 
Sulphur could be close. North Lamar seems to finish late but who knows with them. I don’t buy the Bridge City Lumberton Community hype. They are great bands and contenders for state but they don’t sound and look as good as my top 3 IMHO. Pine tree I think got overlooked last year. Not in the top three but should make finals. A friend of mine said Wills point should be back in the mix. 

[rudy12]

9 hours ago, J-Mike16 said:

I'm not going to predict much until the first few competitions start happening as last year, I kept getting slammed with backlash for having opinions of my own. 

I think having opinions is great as long as everyone is respectful. None of us are judges. I just used to do band and I miss it. This is as close to having it on tv with commentary like sports as I can get.

[J-Mike16]

15 minutes ago, rudy12 said:

I think having opinions is great as long as everyone is respectful. None of us are judges. I just used to do band and I miss it. This is as close to having it on tv with commentary like sports as I can get.

And that is where most everyone clashes because no one can respect one's opinions and thinks their own is right. There has been some downright disrespect given to bands left and right. 

Also I respect your opinions of Lumberton as I am graduate of that school, I just don't see them placing 9th. We will see though...

[Gigger_Frog]

15 hours ago, rudy12 said:

Way to early predictions:

1 Celina

2 Sulphur Springs

3 North Lamar

4 Canton

5 Farmersville

6 Pleasant Grove

7 Pine Tree

8 Bridge City

9 Lumberton

10 Wills Point

11 Community

12 Van Alstyne

 

[Gigger_Frog]

15 hours ago, rudy12 said:

Way to early predictions:

1 Celina

2 Sulphur Springs

3 North Lamar

4 Canton

5 Farmersville

6 Pleasant Grove

7 Pine Tree

8 Bridge City

9 Lumberton

10 Wills Point

11 Community

12 Van Alstyne

Pre season predictions. once we see all the schools next friday then we can get a better look

1/2 Celina/SS

3 NL

4 BC

5 Farmersville

6/7/8/9 Community/Lumberton/ VA/Canton in no order

 

10 paris or pleasent grove

11 wills point

12 sunnyvale or little cypruss

I do think there is a very high possibility for 8 state spots this year.

 

[rudy12]

23 minutes ago, Gigger_Frog said:

 

Your thoughts?

[Gigger_Frog]

2 minutes ago, rudy12 said:

Your thoughts?

posted

[SETXgal]

17 minutes ago, Gigger_Frog said:

Pre season predictions. once we see all the schools next friday then we can get a better look

1/2 Celina/SS

3 NL

4 BC

5 Farmersville

6/7/8/9 Community/Lumberton/ VA/Canton in no order

 

10 paris or pleasent grove

11 wills point

12 sunnyvale or little cypruss

I do think there is a very high possibility for 8 state spots this year.

This actually seems like a pretty reasonable pre-season list. Past that, I'm waiting till October when full shows & props start being seen & heard in competitions. 

[rudy12]

1 hour ago, Gigger_Frog said:

Pre season predictions. once we see all the schools next friday then we can get a better look

1/2 Celina/SS

3 NL

4 BC

5 Farmersville

6/7/8/9 Community/Lumberton/ VA/Canton in no order

 

10 paris or pleasent grove

11 wills point

12 sunnyvale or little cypruss

I do think there is a very high possibility for 8 state spots this year.

 

Why PG so low? I thought they were underrated. 
 

I think Farmersville is on the rise too.

[TexasStrangers]

Figured I would put my two cents in.

 

It's okay to have predictions, we can all agree to disagree if we choose to do so. Yes, I'm sure most of us that are frequent visitors to this page have favorites for one reason or another. 

I think the problem that people don't understand is there are numerous bands in 4A that are good and potential state shows. However, until I see Celina get beat by a 4A at a competition it's hard to go against them because they are on another level.

I think what some people don't understand is that in 4A there are probably 3-4 schools that you could argue could compete in 5A for a State Title. Just like in 3A there are probably 2 schools that could beat most 4A's at the State Level.

Unfortunately in 4A Area C it is probably one of the toughest Area's to get out of especially with the realignment that took place last year.  There is simply not enough spots for all the bands to advance to State so that leaves some bands on the outside looking in that in the past could of had a chance to make state. 

I think if all of us went to a musical judge training session we would all probably understand what separates "great" bands from "good" bands and understand that there is a huge gap between bands that are "Great" and bands that are "Good". To this day to be honest I still don't know the scoring difference between BOA and UIL.

Yes it looks great on the field but do we all truly understand the scoring system and how some band's music is considered to be difficult and some bands with a good show have music that is not that difficult but it looks good. 

If you went to Area and watched all the Finals performances you could tell there was a huge difference in the schools that advanced to State. However, to the casual fan you don't see the little things which then lead to bigger things that prevented schools from getting where they wanted to go. 

Yes, we can all sit here and predict the usual suspects to make it to State because the odds say they probably will but it's a long way to go and everything is moved up a week this year due to state competition held the first week in November instead of the 2nd week like last year.

The first several weeks most of the shows will be lucky to maybe have their 1st/2nd movement ready to play. Most schools don't have their shows fully ready until the last 2-3 weeks before Regionals and even then they are still tweaking it. 

I know Farmersville, North Lamar and PG and Pine Tree are all gonna battle in Mineola on Oct 4 in the Iron Horse Classic which I am leaning on going to that over the "Sounds of the Fall" in Princeton so I can get a preview. 

 

[Fanboy]

Most bands will be lucky to have 1st/2nd movement ready to play? What do you mean by that? What band can’t play their entire show right now? Maybe you mean march and play?

[TexasStrangers]

35 minutes ago, Fanboy said:

Most bands will be lucky to have 1st/2nd movement ready to play? What do you mean by that? What band can’t play their entire show right now? Maybe you mean march and play?

I guess the drill. Yes, a good majority of schools probably are playing all of their songs but they are don't have all the drill down to put it on. I remember last year there were a few schools the first and second week that did nothing but stand in place and play.

[Gpk1968]

10 hours ago, TexasStrangers said:

Figured I would put my two cents in.

 

It's okay to have predictions, we can all agree to disagree if we choose to do so. Yes, I'm sure most of us that are frequent visitors to this page have favorites for one reason or another. 

I think the problem that people don't understand is there are numerous bands in 4A that are good and potential state shows. However, until I see Celina get beat by a 4A at a competition it's hard to go against them because they are on another level.

I think what some people don't understand is that in 4A there are probably 3-4 schools that you could argue could compete in 5A for a State Title. Just like in 3A there are probably 2 schools that could beat most 4A's at the State Level.

Unfortunately in 4A Area C it is probably one of the toughest Area's to get out of especially with the realignment that took place last year.  There is simply not enough spots for all the bands to advance to State so that leaves some bands on the outside looking in that in the past could of had a chance to make state. 

I think if all of us went to a musical judge training session we would all probably understand what separates "great" bands from "good" bands and understand that there is a huge gap between bands that are "Great" and bands that are "Good". To this day to be honest I still don't know the scoring difference between BOA and UIL.

Yes it looks great on the field but do we all truly understand the scoring system and how some band's music is considered to be difficult and some bands with a good show have music that is not that difficult but it looks good. 

If you went to Area and watched all the Finals performances you could tell there was a huge difference in the schools that advanced to State. However, to the casual fan you don't see the little things which then lead to bigger things that prevented schools from getting where they wanted to go. 

Yes, we can all sit here and predict the usual suspects to make it to State because the odds say they probably will but it's a long way to go and everything is moved up a week this year due to state competition held the first week in November instead of the 2nd week like last year.

The first several weeks most of the shows will be lucky to maybe have their 1st/2nd movement ready to play. Most schools don't have their shows fully ready until the last 2-3 weeks before Regionals and even then they are still tweaking it. 

I know Farmersville, North Lamar and PG and Pine Tree are all gonna battle in Mineola on Oct 4 in the Iron Horse Classic which I am leaning on going to that over the "Sounds of the Fall" in Princeton so I can get a preview. 

 

So much respect for what you area saying. I think the average fan has a hard time separating the pizazz and volume from what actually scores well. I had a hard time understanding it a few years ago when the judging system changed and spent some time studying how it works now. There is 100% a clear divide. 

[Gpk1968]

9 hours ago, Fanboy said:

Most bands will be lucky to have 1st/2nd movement ready to play? What do you mean by that? What band can’t play their entire show right now? Maybe you mean march and play?

lol. Very few bands are ready to perform their entire shows at the moment! They might be able to play them, but not for a public performance. Most bands will only have the first piece on the field, maybe part of the 2nd, for the first football games.