UIL 6A Area C 2025

[MoBone]

8 hours ago, BugWub24 said:

So yeah I think it's safe to assume that Duncanville is out of the state conversation; they maintained their prelims position in finals tonight - behind Grapevine and Lake Ridge. Sachse had some dirt in their finals run, but they took care of business and finished either 2nd or 3rd in every caption tonight (they were comfortably ahead of Lake Belton). The battle for 4th is definitely between them and Rockwall-Heath (or one of the Richardsons); I honestly don't know how that will go down.

BUT, if I had to pick right now, I'd give the edge to Sachse.

Speaking of the Rockwall schools, Rockwall is a LOCK for me now, especially with how Duncanville has faired this year. And they may be closer to Forney than we think (they tied in Music Performance and beat Forney in Visual Performance tonight). As for Heath, they did fall back behind Rock Hill, but they placed above some really good bands, notably Walnut Grove, Reedy, and McKinney North (although I heard MN had a not-so-great run). Regardless, they continue to impress me every week and I am excited for the trajectory of this program!

I’m still a little confused on the UIL area judging, will it be similar to what we are seeing at these competitions? 

[BugWub24]

14 minutes ago, MoBone said:

I’m still a little confused on the UIL area judging, will it be similar to what we are seeing at these competitions? 

Area is still on the five-judge system (3 music, 2 visual), but the music has now been expanded and is more similar to the state sheets. The visual judging is the exact same:

Music-Woodwinds, Music-Brass, Music-Percussion, Visual, Visual

[SharksAreCool]

2 hours ago, MoBone said:

I’m still a little confused on the UIL area judging, will it be similar to what we are seeing at these competitions? 

It will be similar to Birdville, but not BOA

[Tubalord11]

Okay so I was very wrong about Sachse...I'm sorry for doubting. Here's my guess after yesterday:

1. Waxahachie

2-4 in any order: Forney, Rockwall, Sachse

5. Heath 

6. Lake Highlands/Berkner 

7. Berkner/LH 

8. Duncanville 

9. North Forney 

10. Richardson? 

[JFNDOWBFAN]

At the moment….

1-4 State Box

1 Waxahachie

2 Rockwall

3 Forney   
4 One in, One out: Sachse, Heath

5-8 Outside the box

5 Sachse or Heath

6  Lake Highlands

7 North Forney

8 Throw a dart at a Richardson school

9 Ducanville 

10 Other Richardson School

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Has anyone see the draw order for Area C yet?

[BugWub24]

14 minutes ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Has anyone see the draw order for Area C yet?

[JFNDOWBFAN]

34 minutes ago, BugWub24 said:

Thanks!

[The11thTrumpet]

I think out of the Richardson schools, Richardson is least likely to make finals. Hard to tell though, they’ll be scattered between 11th ish and even up to 5th or 4th if they pull off something big. 

[MoBone]

4 hours ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

At the moment….

1-4 State Box

1 Waxahachie

2 Rockwall

3 Forney   
4 One in, One out: Sachse, Heath

5-8 Outside the box

5 Sachse or Heath

6  Lake Highlands

7 North Forney

8 Throw a dart at a Richardson school

9 Ducanville 

10 Other Richardson School

Duncanville not doing that hot huh? 

[MoBone]

13 minutes ago, The11thTrumpet said:

I think out of the Richardson schools, Richardson is least likely to make finals. Hard to tell though, they’ll be scattered between 11th ish and even up to 5th or 4th if they pull off something big. 

Who do you have on the outside looking in? 11-21? 

[Mell0supremacy01]

4 minutes ago, MoBone said:

Duncanville not doing that hot huh? 

yeahh it’s really unfortunate, i knew they’d take a hit because of the director change but no one could’ve expected this…

[MoBone]

11 minutes ago, Mell0supremacy01 said:

yeahh it’s really unfortunate, i knew they’d take a hit because of the director change but no one could’ve expected this…

I hope that doesn’t play into their drama from earlier in the year. What with the talk of changing them to a show band and all. It almost feels like they need to make state to keep all of those wants at bay. Now with them potentially missing state, I’d wonder if the district will be like “ok going show band” 

[JFNDOWBFAN]

1 hour ago, MoBone said:

Duncanville not doing that hot huh? 

By all accounts and reports, they are not having a Duncanville year! Hope I’m wrong and they compete better

[Tbcord140]

18 hours ago, BugWub24 said:

So yeah I think it's safe to assume that Duncanville is out of the state conversation; they maintained their prelims position in finals tonight - behind Grapevine and Lake Ridge. Sachse had some dirt in their finals run, but they took care of business and finished either 2nd or 3rd in every caption tonight (they were comfortably ahead of Lake Belton). The battle for 4th is definitely between them and Rockwall-Heath (or one of the Richardsons); I honestly don't know how that will go down.

BUT, if I had to pick right now, I'd give the edge to Sachse.

Speaking of the Rockwall schools, Rockwall is a LOCK for me now, especially with how Duncanville has faired this year. And they may be closer to Forney than we think (they tied in Music Performance and beat Forney in Visual Performance tonight). As for Heath, they did fall back behind Rock Hill, but they placed above some really good bands, notably Walnut Grove, Reedy, and McKinney North (although I heard MN had a not-so-great run). Regardless, they continue to impress me every week and I am excited for the trajectory of this program!

This may seem uncomfortable, but I don't have them making area finals. Call it harsh, but this may be the WORST downfall of a band program over the span of what? 5 months?

[Tbcord140]

Sachse's Birdville Finals Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vImecMPdU9E

[MoBone]

9 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

This may seem uncomfortable, but I don't have them making area finals. Call it harsh, but this may be the WORST downfall of a band program over the span of what? 5 months?

That would really really suck. I feel like they needed to be the best of the best this season to keep all the drama away. I do hope they make state, idk if it’s irrational but my fear is that if Duncanville goes show, we could see other programs follow suit. 

[Tbcord140]

Just now, MoBone said:

That would really really suck. I feel like they needed to be the best of the best this season to keep all the drama away. I do hope they make state, idk if it’s irrational but my fear is that if Duncanville goes show, we could see other programs follow suit. 

in this area, probably not... but long term, if you're not an area finals/state contender then yes it'd be easier to be a show band. i have no problem with show bands, i just don't get the kind of forcing to do that...

[The11thTrumpet]

2 hours ago, MoBone said:

Who do you have on the outside looking in? 11-21? 

I could see Tyler Legacy and John Horn being in the upper part. Maybe North Garland too? You never know, if Duncanville fell off that badly then anybody could sneak in.

[Tbcord140]

new predictions with captions...

1. Waxahachie (Mus-WW, Mus-Br, Vis)
This is pretty much the only spot that has no debate at all, their show has genuinely insane features, and their show could honestly deal them a bottom half State finals spot.

2. Forney (Perc?)
I REALLY like this show, and so do a lot of people. Their recent results, like their 11th at BOA Prosper, keep establishing the resume of why they could be a top-20 program in the State of Texas, kind of showing how strong this area is. While I think their visual scores are a very small bit behind compared to bands like Sachse and Rockwall, their music is too good not to place them at the 3. Very excited to see what they have here and at SMBC.

3. Sachse (Perc?)
While this show isn't a huge fan favorite, this does do pretty well for themselves on the scoresheets, Birdville for an example, I thought they were going to get blown out of the water by Keller, but they ended up doing pretty good for themselves while keeping the gap something to be proud of, especially in the Percussion, Guard and Brass captions. It's also quite funny that they do these shenanigans each year of where they start off wildly slow in the early season, but grow into a final product that is INSANELY good. Come October 25th, don't be surprised to hear Sachse as a Area C state representative.

4. Rockwall
While this may be a little offsetting on why I have Rockwall over Sachse, I just belive Sachse's improved so much over their run at BOA Bedford to be behind Rockwall. I like the concept, but I feel like their show isn't visually imacpful compared to the choreo-stacked shows like Sachse's or Forney's. The music could fare well for them, but with UIL Area judging, you may never know what you'll get.

5. Rockwall Heath
I love their show, but I feel like their visual scores will kind of deplete their shot at a state run unless executed insanely good, but anything can happen under the lights in Mesquite, who knows, maybe lil bro finally beats big bro...

6. Berkner
I haven't watched their show, but they do well for themselves on the score sheets. Do I think they have a chance at state? Very minimal at best. But this is a pretty good bounce year for Berkner as they establish themselves as one of the, if not the premier band of RISD.

7. Lake Highlands
I have watched their show, quite demanding for them, but its this consistent year after year process where they can't exactly meet the full demands of their book, and kind of start strong early, but kind of jog off the 100m dash the rest of the way. 

8. NF 
This is a significant improvement from last year, finally getting accustomed to what 6A is about, and their show is easily area finals material, give them about 3-5 years and we'll have them in the same convo as Rockwall-Heath....

9. North Garland
I like the trajectory North is at, they either finish 9 or 10, or barely miss out, their percussion is honestly a top 5-7 candidate, I think it just falls to the responsibility of the winds to make sure North Garland makes Area finals for the first time in their existence as a school.

10. Rowlett/Duncanville/JJ Pearce
This does feel like a bloodbath for that final spot, with Rowlett having a pretty solid book, Duncaville falling off in major levels, and JJ Pearce kind of having a subpar year. The insane thing about this is that they perform 3rd, 5th, and 6th in line, in that incredibly early morning block. I feel like before we get to about noon, we should have a solid idea of who makes it in, but as of right now, edge to Rowlett.
 

[SharksAreCool]

Here are my thoughts after both Birdville and Prosper and all that.

 

1. Wax, pretty self explanatory.

2. Forney, this is a really fun show and given they make state, they’d for sure be a fan favorite. Of course I could see them changing in and out with the Rockwall, considering how close they were in score at BOA Prosper.

3. Rockwall, yeah call me crazy, but I think this is their year. They look really strong this year and was close to Forney in finals for boa.

4. Sachse, not as strong as last year, but still really good. Given their runs at Birdville, I think they sound good yet at times their visuals aren’t as strong. Just my opinion and I could totally be wrong, but I think Rockwall does have the edge over them this year.

5. Rockwall Heath, this is probably the strongest this program has looked ever. They’ve made some major changes and it’s working for them. I think the thing that’s holding Heath back the most is visual, but yeah they look great this year.

6. Lake Highlands, not many people are talking about them, but I really like them this year. They could be as high as 5th and could really make a strong showing. They sound good this year and could definitely be a sleeper.

7. Berkner, haven’t seen much from them this year. I know they did well at POC and Bedford. They could also be a sleeper, but probably won’t know until their show is super clean.

8. North Forney, this band is really on the rise. I had them in my finals prediction last year and they still had a great showing. I like this show even better than last year, and they could be rising more and more.

9. Duncanville, really doesn’t feel right to have them this low considering they were at state last year. Of course not a strong year, but they could get better as they adjust the next few years.

10. Now this spot could be anyone. In my mind I have a feeling it’s Pearce, but it could be them, Richardson, Royce City, Tyler Legacy, North Garlend, Rowlett, and maybe even John Horn.

 

 

Of course this is just my opinion of everything right now. Obviously I’m probably miles off, but they don’t call it an attempt for nothing. Countdown to Area Starts Today!!!

 

[BugWub24]

49 minutes ago, SharksAreCool said:

Here are my thoughts after both Birdville and Prosper and all that.

 

1. Wax, pretty self explanatory.

2. Forney, this is a really fun show and given they make state, they’d for sure be a fan favorite. Of course I could see them changing in and out with the Rockwall, considering how close they were in score at BOA Prosper.

3. Rockwall, yeah call me crazy, but I think this is their year. They look really strong this year and was close to Forney in finals for boa.

4. Sachse, not as strong as last year, but still really good. Given their runs at Birdville, I think they sound good yet at times their visuals aren’t as strong. Just my opinion and I could totally be wrong, but I think Rockwall does have the edge over them this year.

5. Rockwall Heath, this is probably the strongest this program has looked ever. They’ve made some major changes and it’s working for them. I think the thing that’s holding Heath back the most is visual, but yeah they look great this year.

6. Lake Highlands, not many people are talking about them, but I really like them this year. They could be as high as 5th and could really make a strong showing. They sound good this year and could definitely be a sleeper.

7. Berkner, haven’t seen much from them this year. I know they did well at POC and Bedford. They could also be a sleeper, but probably won’t know until their show is super clean.

8. North Forney, this band is really on the rise. I had them in my finals prediction last year and they still had a great showing. I like this show even better than last year, and they could be rising more and more.

9. Duncanville, really doesn’t feel right to have them this low considering they were at state last year. Of course not a strong year, but they could get better as they adjust the next few years.

10. Now this spot could be anyone. In my mind I have a feeling it’s Pearce, but it could be them, Richardson, Royce City, Tyler Legacy, North Garlend, Rowlett, and maybe even John Horn.

 

 

Of course this is just my opinion of everything right now. Obviously I’m probably miles off, but they don’t call it an attempt for nothing. Countdown to Area Starts Today!!!

 

This is essentially my list lol

I agree, Rockwall imo is locked in at 3rd. Sachse definitely has more choreo and drill than in the past, so they could be adjusting towards having more difficult shows.

I do think there is a bit of a gap between Heath and Lake Highlands. To me, LH is one of those bands that starts out strong and is super clean early on, but because of that there may not be a lot of places to grow (not to say that improvements can't be made, of course). But if music ensemble in general was being judged at area, I think they would have a shot at 5th.

 

My general opinion is that now that the music judging is more specific, some bands that may have placed lower due to generalization may see higher placements, making the finals bubble very interesting. For example, Tyler Legacy has a strong brass and improved visuals. Those alone could place them higher, and potentially in finals.

[BandDad11]

As much as Sachse's improved, I still believe Heath has a shot at making it. Heath tends to do alright mid-season and then cleans up quickly within the last couple of weeks (such as not making finals at Don Hanna to 9th at Area prelims). With how well they've been doing recently compared to years previous and how much time they have left to clean now, I'm fairly confident in their chances.

[Tbcord140]

7 minutes ago, BandDad11 said:

As much as Sachse's improved, I still believe Heath has a shot at making it. Heath tends to do alright mid-season and then cleans up quickly within the last couple of weeks (such as not making finals at Don Hanna to 9th at Area prelims). With how well they've been doing recently compared to years previous and how much time they have left to clean now, I'm fairly confident in their chances.

I feel like they're both at the same trajectory, Heath has a slight shot only and only if Sachse has a bad run, because Sachse's visuals will get cleaner, and will be up in that 2nd/3rd range in the visuals along with music, and heath doesn't in all honesty, have as much of a demanding visual book as Sachse... lowkey area judges WILL give the edge to sachse, and as of now i will give the edge to Sachse, which could be a 3 spot if all works out.

[E1.]

11 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

I feel like they're both at the same trajectory, Heath has a slight shot only and only if Sachse has a bad run, because Sachse's visuals will get cleaner, and will be up in that 2nd/3rd range in the visuals along with music, and heath doesn't in all honesty, have as much of a demanding visual book as Sachse... lowkey area judges WILL give the edge to sachse, and as of now i will give the edge to Sachse, which could be a 3 spot if all works out.

I agree Sachse has an edge in visuals, but I don't think Heath looks bad at all. Their visual score was higher than their other scores this past saturday, they just need to clean a few spots. Music wise though when Heath locks in they sound good. They beat Rockwall's brass in prelims at McKinney, and they can definitely do it again. I think it's going to be very very close between Sachse, Heath, and Rockwall