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Thanks! I completely forgot to update this thread over the weekend. As mentioned, Cedar Park advances to the regional semis. Celina also advanced in 4A DI Region II where they will play Stephenville in what should be a fantastic Thanksgiving weekend battle. We did, however, lose 3A champ Whitesboro who fell 60-19 to Bushland. Bonus fun fact: if Celina and Frisco Panther Creek win this weekend, we'll have a battle between 1st and 2nd place in 4A state marching band for the Region II title. In fact, the top 3 in 4A are 3 of the 4 remaining teams in Region II.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, so feel free to elaborate. If you are suggesting that I would ever do anything at all that is fundamentally dangerous for my own children, that is simultaneously ignorant and incredibly insulting, so I certainly hope that's not the line you're taking.

I would appreciate that recipe too if anyone is sharing 👀

Sorry for the longer post and response.... If what I've heard from former students about Cartwright & instructional practices that were occurring - good riddance. On another note - It's always interesting how there are a ton of other EXTREMELY successful "old school" band directors who did not and still do not resort to or utilize some of the methods that we all know are not just wrong for kids, but if we're really honest with ourselves, not just borderline, downright abusive. There's a very big difference between holding students accountable / having high expectations and communicating that appropriately to CHILDREN at the high school age, and verbally accosting / screaming / threatening / etc. CHILDREN for the sake of 'the art'. Accountability is good, high expectations are good, when POSITIVELY reinforced by staff and students alike. Also, I really dislike how in the band community we have turned "old school" into a massive diss - we would literally have NONE of the funding, facilities, voices at the decision making table, etc. if it weren't for all of the amazing and positive "old school" band directors across Texas and the country. While we're at it, lets get REAL for second. Marching Band - It's not that deep. It's CHILDREN running around a football field wearing crazy costumes, throwing things in air, etc. to be a part of something bigger than themselves and a part of a band and guard family where everyone is accepted and appreciated. Sometimes we can forget that when we all get heated in recaps, have bad reps or rehearsals, whatever; at the end of the day, its just marching band. #LetsAllBeGoodPeople

I am so sorry but TWHS in 5th doesn’t sit right with me