UIL 5A Area B 2025

[RyanRaider22]

Sooo... Anyways...

Anybody know how Ryan, Anna, and Denton did? Ryan has had a record breaking season and I LOVED Anna's show/uniforms.

To all the Emerson people, I know it hurts to be one spot away from making finals (I definitely know as we usually got just about dead last lol). Just know that you kids worked hard and would most likely be able to go to state if you were in just about any other area. Heck honestly every band that attended this contest today would be state bound in another area. Don't feel sad for not making finals, be happy for all the life lessons, memories, and friendships made throughout the season. Marching band is part of life. In life there's always room for growth and improvement. 

[wtxbd02]

Unless you were a director in the room with the judges this kind of speculation/assumptions over a pretty normal ordinal on a judging sheet is wreckless and fuels misinformation and negativity.  It's clear when someone doesn't understand how the sheets work.  Variance in subcaption ordinals is totally normal and a sign of healthy judging of the shows seen on the day.  Nothing more or less.  

[Pmsmarch]

Anyone got score sheet??

[Toasty]

1 hour ago, cheesecurd21 said:

Let me be more specific to hopefully clear it up. 

The percussion judge (yes there is only one percussion judge) gave Emerson a score that placed them in 4th and 5th on 2 subcaptions. On another sub caption, they received a score that placed them in 18th place. 18th place from the same judge that gave top 5 twice. In my eyes without a doubt the most likely solution is a simple tabulation error where a wrong key was entered and didn’t realize (somehow). I just don’t believe they received 18th while getting 4th and 5th from the same judge 

nothing about that math adds up... they got 13th in perc but 4+5+18 divided by 3 gets you 9. so something is def interesting about what's being said.

[clarinets74]

the results sheet (not the score sheet) show ridiculously varied rankings for all bands, not just emerson. in fact, emerson had pretty consistent rankings throughout. you wouldn't think walnut grove would beat wakeland in music, but music is incredibly subjective so I would try not to think about the results too hard. we don't know exactly what was going on through the judges heads, but we all know all of the kids in every band worked super hard and gave it their all today.

[cheesecurd21]

3 minutes ago, Toasty said:

nothing about that math adds up... they got 13th in perc but 4+5+18 divided by 3 gets you 9. so something is def interesting about what's being said.

The sub caption they got 18th in is weighted more heavily 

[cheesecurd21]

5 minutes ago, clarinets74 said:

the results sheet (not the score sheet) show ridiculously varied rankings for all bands, not just emerson. in fact, emerson had pretty consistent rankings throughout. you wouldn't think walnut grove would beat wakeland in music, but music is incredibly subjective so I would try not to think about the results too hard. we don't know exactly what was going on through the judges heads, but we all know all of the kids in every band worked super hard and gave it their all today.

Unfortunately the judges were swapped last minute resulting in some strange variances, more so than would have likely happened if the original judges were kept. 

Not saying the judges were “bad”, just having to pick a backup judge will result in less accurate results 

[clarinets74]

12 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

Unfortunately the judges were swapped last minute resulting in some strange variances, more so than would have likely happened if the original judges were kept. 

Not saying the judges were “bad”, just having to pick a backup judge will result in less accurate results 

i understand that these results weren't what you expected and therefore you may think something else was at play, but you weren't in the judging room and dont know that the swapping of judges would've made or broke a band making in into finals. a backup judge still just as qualified as the initial chosen judge.

[FootballBandMom]

Congratulations to all bands competing today! Every single one of these bands and every single one of these kids deserved to be here and they should all be so proud!

[wtxbd02]

So now it's because of the judging panel.  Not a tabulation error.  lol.  Make up your mind!   Or maybe it's just normal UIL Area results where a judge thought a band had a lower music ensemble achievement level for the whole band than their percussion and had good content on the same sheet.  

Let's move on from baseless speculation and feelings over results we didn't like trying to cause trouble.  Congrats to the advancing bands and finalists, Lone Star is looking at their best ever finish at state this year.  That's really exciting!  

[SharksAreCool]

11 hours ago, FootballBandMom said:

Congratulations to all bands competing today! Every single one of these bands and every single one of these kids deserved to be here and they should all be so proud!

Melissa wow! Was not aware of your game! Congrats to Leb and Argyle on advancing!

[ishmenthew]

I preformed w/ liberty during prelims and we got rained on which (probably) affected our placement. do you guys know if uil or the judges have any obligations if it rains during a performance (like changing their performance time)?

[glyde]

Congratulations to all these programs!!! 

Emerson stuff is frustrating how they lost finals due to a mishap and i know they will be back for next year. But they had good stuff and fought through!

LT congrats on state, yall deserved it that show was amazing to watch. Hope yall go nuts at finals!!

Melissa wow, I was not expecting such a high placement from yall (6th). Real underdogs of this area, placing above WG and Reedy is a big win, who know what they could do.

Indepenence congrats on finals!! I dont know how you got 19th in brass that doesnt seem right but great performance!

Now with the rain situation, it was a slight sprinke during prelims yesterday, Liberty Emerson Melissa etc all fought throught it. If they can put on a good show in the rain then the judges know they can perform even better.

All the other programs had a good show but the ones above had some thought I wanted to share. Untill next year!

[bandperson12]

What's everyone's thoughts on Heritage making 7th and beating WG, Reedy, and Indy? It was definitely surprising but well deserved they really cleaned up the past 2 weeks.

[band_is_better_in_TX]

I believe the judges slept on WG and Reedy

[Bbas]

saw finals, not sure how exactly melissa and heritage were above reedy and WG, and I also don't know how argyle was in 4th, their finals run was not the best. Top 3 was justified, everything else I am extremely confused by...

[KickSomeBrass]

I am curious: how is the singing part for McKinney North judged? Singing is not a marching band skill and I noticed that the vocalist did not move around the field. Do they view the singing part as a "prop" of sorts or how does it work?

[KickSomeBrass]

Do you all think Lone Star will ever beat Wakeland? They keep getting closer and closer...

[band_is_better_in_TX]

I thought reedy and WG was going to be at least top 6. I don't know what those judges were thinking. Maybe it was because of the shows performance timing, but other than that I am also really confused. I agree, Melissa and Heritage shouldn't be placed above those bands. WG had a great run, and so has Reedy, but those judges saw otherwise.

[Dave609]

4 hours ago, glyde said:

Congratulations to all these programs!!! 

Emerson stuff is frustrating how they lost finals due to a mishap and i know they will be back for next year. But they had good stuff and fought through!

LT congrats on state, yall deserved it that show was amazing to watch. Hope yall go nuts at finals!!

Melissa wow, I was not expecting such a high placement from yall (6th). Real underdogs of this area, placing above WG and Reedy is a big win, who know what they could do.

Indepenence congrats on finals!! I dont know how you got 19th in brass that doesnt seem right but great performance!

Now with the rain situation, it was a slight sprinke during prelims yesterday, Liberty Emerson Melissa etc all fought throught it. If they can put on a good show in the rain then the judges know they can perform even better.

All the other programs had a good show but the ones above had some thought I wanted to share. Untill next year!

Definitely was shocked, but happy to see Melissa make finals (alumni for the school). Watching their show throughout the season, I didn't really know where to place them, but felt it wasn't ready for a finals run at Area (thought Emerson, Liberty, or Lovejoy were going to get in). Overall, it was pretty exciting to see them make finals at Area for the first time since 2021!

[Danpod]

Closing this topic.

Claiming impropriety on the judges or the contest officials without hard and evidence is irresponsible. Every year, someone claims that they know someone who knows something. Not having it.