UIL 5A Area B 2025

[cheesecurd21]

1 hour ago, Karma_Savior said:

Quite frankly, it’s honestly insane that a school like Reedy can beat Sachse, the former 6A Area C Champion. It’s a shame that Reedy doesn’t have enough conversations about potentially getting a state spot, but I know that it’s a competitive area. I think it’s time for Frisco ISD to take a page out of Leander ISD’s book and have a couple of schools in 6A to spread the love. 
 

Just imagine if Wakeland and Lone Star moved up to 6A and freed up a couple of state spots for other Frisco ISD/non-FISD schools to have a chance in the Alamo Dome. 

Correct me if i’m wrong but aren’t Reedy and Wakeland (and WG) very close to being 6A? Will they move up next year?

[dryyellowmangos]

On 10/12/2025 at 12:21 AM, FullRetreat said:

I could see this being applicable here so i’ll send it:

BOA Prosper Prelim Scores NO GE

1. Marcus H.S. - 35.225
2. Coppell H.S. - 34.200
3. Wakeland H.S. - 33.850
4. Forney H.S. - 33.050
5. Southlake Carroll H.S. - 32.775
6. Lone Star H.S. - 32.450
7. McKinney H.S. - 32.300
8. Wylie H.S. - 32.275
9. Prosper H.S. - 31.950
10. Walnut Grove H.S. - 31.725
11. Lebanon Trail H.S. - 31.525
12. Burleson Centennial H.S. - 31.500
13. Braswell H.S. - 31.475
14. Rockwall H.S. - 31.275
15. McKinney North H.S. - 31.000
16. Rock Hill H.S. - 30.600
17. Rick Reedy H.S. - 30.450
18. Little Elm H.S. - 30.025
19. Liberty H.S. - 29.850
20. Rockwall-Heath H.S. - 29.750
21. Melissa H.S. - 28.600
22. Commerce H.S. - 25.500
23. Whitesboro H.S. - 25.400

BOA Prosper sure was crazy! There were quite a few unexpected results (Mckinney North at 20?!) with General Effect. But I think a few of these are actually in the wrong spot. I just rechecked the math, and there were a few slight, but surprising errors, here's the updated math with all the bands that participate in Area B!

1. Wakeland (33.85) The same (Blinding props, my Lord. Amazing sound and clean as always)

2. Lone Star (32.45) The same. But wow, what powerful sound. I love their theme and the soloists are fantastic.

3. Lebanon Trail (32.325) Above Walnut Grove. (Such fantastic visuals, I love their show.)

4. Walnut Grove (31.725) BELOW Lebanon Trail, not above. (Interesting theme, definitely a dark horse.)

5. McKinney North (30.8) (Slightly below their last score, very surprising placing but maybe I understand it a little? Excited to see how they do at area.)

5. Liberty (29.85) Above Reedy (Another very surprising band. Outperforming Mckinney North on the BOA Sheets and beating Reedy without including GE is fantastic! Love to see it for this band, can't wait to see how they do at Area.)

6. Reedy (29.45) BELOW Liberty, not above. (Haven't seen much of their show but I've only heard good things. Clearly doing well under their new director and I'm eagerly waiting to see the results in this bloodbath of an area.)

7.  Melissa (28.6) The same. (Hello Melissa! Very visually clean and packs a very nice brass sound too! Definitely a dark horse.)

Pretty small changes but really surprising. Way to go Liberty! Walnut Grove also did really well, with their individual music score being top 5-6 overall. (Wow!) Obviously, BOA scoring is different and this isn't accounting for GE and the other subcaptions that UIL accounts for, but even with the inclusion, there were definitely a few shockers. 

[zxrzxz]

1 hour ago, cheesecurd21 said:

Correct me if i’m wrong but aren’t Reedy and Wakeland (and WG) very close to being 6A? Will they move up next year?

Yes, but Frisco ISD would rather spend tens of millions to build a new high school, than even let one school in the district go 6A. They’ve come close several times, but either they redistrict or build a completely new school. I’d be surprised if any of them ever actually became 6A. 

[FullRetreat]

1 hour ago, dryyellowmangos said:

BOA Prosper sure was crazy! There were quite a few unexpected results (Mckinney North at 20?!) with General Effect. But I think a few of these are actually in the wrong spot. I just rechecked the math, and there were a few slight, but surprising errors, here's the updated math with all the bands that participate in Area B!

1. Wakeland (33.85) The same (Blinding props, my Lord. Amazing sound and clean as always)

2. Lone Star (32.45) The same. But wow, what powerful sound. I love their theme and the soloists are fantastic.

3. Lebanon Trail (32.325) Above Walnut Grove. (Such fantastic visuals, I love their show.)

4. Walnut Grove (31.725) BELOW Lebanon Trail, not above. (Interesting theme, definitely a dark horse.)

5. McKinney North (30.8) (Slightly below their last score, very surprising placing but maybe I understand it a little? Excited to see how they do at area.)

5. Liberty (29.85) Above Reedy (Another very surprising band. Outperforming Mckinney North on the BOA Sheets and beating Reedy without including GE is fantastic! Love to see it for this band, can't wait to see how they do at Area.)

6. Reedy (29.45) BELOW Liberty, not above. (Haven't seen much of their show but I've only heard good things. Clearly doing well under their new director and I'm eagerly waiting to see the results in this bloodbath of an area.)

7.  Melissa (28.6) The same. (Hello Melissa! Very visually clean and packs a very nice brass sound too! Definitely a dark horse.)

Pretty small changes but really surprising. Way to go Liberty! Walnut Grove also did really well, with their individual music score being top 5-6 overall. (Wow!) Obviously, BOA scoring is different and this isn't accounting for GE and the other subcaptions that UIL accounts for, but even with the inclusion, there were definitely a few shockers. 

How did i mess up this bad 😭 Thank you for the correction much appreciated 🙏

[FullRetreat]

20 minutes ago, zxrzxz said:

Yes, but Frisco ISD would rather spend tens of millions to build a new high school, than even let one school in the district go 6A. They’ve come close several times, but either they redistrict or build a completely new school. I’d be surprised if any of them ever actually became 6A. 

100% agree, Frisco is VERY against going 6A. Walnut Grove will probably be 6A next year though

[bandguy13]

8 hours ago, FullRetreat said:

100% agree, Frisco is VERY against going 6A. Walnut Grove will probably be 6A next year though

They can only avoid it for so long, though. There’s not much more room in the city to build a new school, and they haven’t done so in time for the next alignment. This coming year, I think, breaks that barrier and we see the first few grow to 6A. Along with McKinney North (who was extremely close last cycle) and WG.

[Toasty]

16 hours ago, Karma_Savior said:

Quite frankly, it’s honestly insane that a school like Reedy can beat Sachse, the former 6A Area C Champion. It’s a shame that Reedy doesn’t have enough conversations about potentially getting a state spot, but I know that it’s a competitive area. I think it’s time for Frisco ISD to take a page out of Leander ISD’s book and have a couple of schools in 6A to spread the love. 
 

Just imagine if Wakeland and Lone Star moved up to 6A and freed up a couple of state spots for other Frisco ISD/non-FISD schools to have a chance in the Alamo Dome. 

Not to discredit anyone, but, I don’t think we should use results from September to determine how a band is… a LOT can change from then, some people could have harder shows that take longer to clean, some people could have less put together, etc etc. A notable example of this was when rouse beat vandergrift back in 2023 at boa Austin, but in their respective classification come state, vandy got the title 6A and rouse was top 3 5A?

[Bluecoat]

15 hours ago, cheesecurd21 said:

Correct me if i’m wrong but aren’t Reedy and Wakeland (and WG) very close to being 6A? Will they move up next year?

 

16 hours ago, Karma_Savior said:

Quite frankly, it’s honestly insane that a school like Reedy can beat Sachse, the former 6A Area C Champion. It’s a shame that Reedy doesn’t have enough conversations about potentially getting a state spot, but I know that it’s a competitive area. I think it’s time for Frisco ISD to take a page out of Leander ISD’s book and have a couple of schools in 6A to spread the love. 
 

Just imagine if Wakeland and Lone Star moved up to 6A and freed up a couple of state spots for other Frisco ISD/non-FISD schools to have a chance in the Alamo Dome. 

FISD has said they do not want any 6A schools In their district, its the reason there are about 13 high schools. They plan to transfer/bus students to the newer schools if schools like Wakeland or Reedy reach capacity.

[sigmaboi]

saw lonestar not that long ago and oh my......they are good 

[LostChoirGuy]

People on the football forums have mentioned that they think the 6A cutoff could go down this year for the first time in a while due to many schools losing enrollment.  That could make things interesting for the Frisco schools.

[Armyguy1381]

11 hours ago, thatoneguywhodrums said:

They can only avoid it for so long, though. There’s not much more room in the city to build a new school, and they haven’t done so in time for the next alignment. This coming year, I think, breaks that barrier and we see the first few grow to 6A. Along with McKinney North (who was extremely close last cycle) and WG.

WG is not an FISD school

[bandguy13]

39 minutes ago, Armyguy1381 said:

WG is not an FISD school

Right… that’s why I included them separately along with McKinney North. They’re in the same region

[glyde]

On 10/14/2025 at 3:54 PM, dciisrproudtopresent said:

my personal predictions for this area: 

1. lone star - tubalord glaze

2. wakeland - kinda fractured visuals

3. liberty - very cool visuals, statebound, love the sax quartet, could use some more bari

4. LT - dr seuss kinda show, cool sound

5. the colony - lowkey an up year for them, might win state!

6. argyle - wheat, really? (farmers village ahh show) ewheat ball knowledge

7. MN - overused and fell off🥱 jazz show #275974269053

8. independence - phenomenal marching technique and woodwind contribution, could use some more volume on the tuba solo. very strong dark sound.

9. Reedy - don’t really understand the abstract theme

10. Walnut grove - lowkey not a fan of water 💦 i prefer cocacola

11. Heritage - could make state if they had more passion

1-3 locks

4-11 anything can happen 

frisco, memorial, centennial, emerson in bubble, memorial could slide in tho 

 

Holy skew!! I can udnerstand 1-2 and the MN hate but Liberty above LT is staight criminal, Liberty is a great program but lebanon trail has a phenominal show that will clear most of these finalists. And remove the WG hate, we know you drink sparkling water 😆

[glyde]

1. Wakeland (not the best wakeland show ive seen but opener is fire and they play well)

2. Lone Star (brass takes the cake)

3.LT( deserved state spot)

4.Argyle/MN(north could be down due to dirty visuals, very entertaining show but not clean. 20th at prosper below liberty and above melissa means they could be in trouble!!)

5-6th.MN/Reedy(can see reedy doing really well time will tell)

7th. Independence( that brass wants the smoke this year!!! Although I am not a fan of the copied arrangements from Bella Machaneique, I do like the show, visually clean as well!)

8th-9th.WG/TC(Both are good programs but I am not personally fond of either's show to much)

10th - Heritage(VERY CLEAN it amazed me!! much improvement made!)

Bubbles:

Memorial(bigger sound and fix dirty drill), Melissa(clean spacing pls), Emerson(if they clean visuals)

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Anything can happen these next three weeks, for all I know, Denison could come out of nowhere and destroy the compeition if they work hard! But 1-4 are locks and 5-bubbles are guesses, once region finishes i can make my final prediction. But I am amazed by the progression majority of these programs have made. Independence sound is so much richer and bigger, LT has amazing music and visual blend, and Heritage marches like gold. Also to add that Melissa could begin to be the dark horse of this area. I watched their prelims run on youtube and wow the improvment is evident, still some minor induvidual errors and spacing but musically it is very good and big. Big kudos to these programs for keeping me entertained!!

[caravansolo181]

3 hours ago, glyde said:

1. Wakeland (not the best wakeland show ive seen but opener is fire and they play well)

2. Lone Star (brass takes the cake)

3.LT( deserved state spot)

4.Argyle/MN(north could be down due to dirty visuals, very entertaining show but not clean. 20th at prosper below liberty and above melissa means they could be in trouble!!)

5-6th.MN/Reedy(can see reedy doing really well time will tell)

7th. Independence( that brass wants the smoke this year!!! Although I am not a fan of the copied arrangements from Bella Machaneique, I do like the show, visually clean as well!)

8th-9th.WG/TC(Both are good programs but I am not personally fond of either's show to much)

10th - Heritage(VERY CLEAN it amazed me!! much improvement made!)

Bubbles:

Memorial(bigger sound and fix dirty drill), Melissa(clean spacing pls), Emerson(if they clean visuals)

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Anything can happen these next three weeks, for all I know, Denison could come out of nowhere and destroy the compeition if they work hard! But 1-4 are locks and 5-bubbles are guesses, once region finishes i can make my final prediction. But I am amazed by the progression majority of these programs have made. Independence sound is so much richer and bigger, LT has amazing music and visual blend, and Heritage marches like gold. Also to add that Melissa could begin to be the dark horse of this area. I watched their prelims run on youtube and wow the improvment is evident, still some minor induvidual errors and spacing but musically it is very good and big. Big kudos to these programs for keeping me entertained!!

i'm SUPER excited for LT this year. everytime I see them, they just keep getting better and better... Argyle is also really good this year, I think they can get 4th... (that doesn't stray away from the fact that mn is also awesome this year too!!)

[cheesecurd21]

Just saw Lovejoy and Emerson. HUGE improvements, especially from Emerson. Completely different sound in the brass. Still many things to work on but since Mckinney there has been major improvements, and same thing goes to say about Lovejoy. Smaller, but a nice powerful sound (great lead trumpet in Lovejoy, sticks out a little though). Both could be somewhat underrated, but will have a more accurate standing after region likely.

[Bluecoat]

14 hours ago, glyde said:

1. Wakeland (not the best wakeland show ive seen but opener is fire and they play well)

2. Lone Star (brass takes the cake)

3.LT( deserved state spot)

4.Argyle/MN(north could be down due to dirty visuals, very entertaining show but not clean. 20th at prosper below liberty and above melissa means they could be in trouble!!)

5-6th.MN/Reedy(can see reedy doing really well time will tell)

7th. Independence( that brass wants the smoke this year!!! Although I am not a fan of the copied arrangements from Bella Machaneique, I do like the show, visually clean as well!)

8th-9th.WG/TC(Both are good programs but I am not personally fond of either's show to much)

10th - Heritage(VERY CLEAN it amazed me!! much improvement made!)

Bubbles:

Memorial(bigger sound and fix dirty drill), Melissa(clean spacing pls), Emerson(if they clean visuals)

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Anything can happen these next three weeks, for all I know, Denison could come out of nowhere and destroy the compeition if they work hard! But 1-4 are locks and 5-bubbles are guesses, once region finishes i can make my final prediction. But I am amazed by the progression majority of these programs have made. Independence sound is so much richer and bigger, LT has amazing music and visual blend, and Heritage marches like gold. Also to add that Melissa could begin to be the dark horse of this area. I watched their prelims run on youtube and wow the improvment is evident, still some minor induvidual errors and spacing but musically it is very good and big. Big kudos to these programs for keeping me entertained!!

Kind of off topic lol but you mentioned this not being your favorite Wakeland show. Got me thinking whats everyone's favorite show from each of these bands

[Toasty]

5 minutes ago, Bluecoat said:

Kind of off topic lol but you mentioned this not being your favorite Wakeland show. Got me thinking whats everyone's favorite show from each of these bands

I really liked lone star and argyle show last year 

[OGFISD99]

Lone Star's Primal...  

[OrangeCheeseBread]

With a little over 2 weeks till the area, this is going to be a tough battle for all bands in this area. To which I could see a lot of these placements change.

 

My predictions:

1. Wakeland ( Very good, looks like one of their best years in a while.)

2. Lonestar ( Another really good band, could even beat Wakeland, but who knows, love their great job Lonestar!)

3. McKinney North ( Really enjoyable show, placed 20th at Prosper, but from what I heard, it wasn't a great run for them; they usually get really clean last minute, and I doubt this year will be an exception. But could see them getting 4th or 5th.)

4. Lebanon Trail ( Love the show, love what y'all are doing, and love how y'all show up when it counts, could definitely see them higher or lower, really depends on their run and other bands' run that night.) 

5. Argyle ( Show is fantastic, and very well performed. I could see them getting 4th or 3rd, but similar to Lebanon Trail and McKinney North, it depends on their runs.)

6.  Walnut Grove ( With them beating Reedy at Prosper, I see them getting 6th love what they are about, and can't wait to see them in a few weeks.)

7. Independence ( Some pretty good visuals, I enjoy the show and the idea of it, and some killer brass, but definitely a possibility of them getting 6th or even 8th.)

8. Reedy (I'm curious about where they could be placed. I haven't seen them much, but from what I have seen, it looks pretty good, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get 7th. It will be fun to watch. Great job!)

9. The Colony ( Amazing band, I like the woodwinds sound pretty good. Could get 10th, but I'm confident they will pull through.)

10. Heritage ( Decently clean visually, like what they got going for them. I'm not sure how they will do here, but it will be fun to watch.)

I can see these changing around. But it depends on what performances they do now until their show time on November 1st. This is just a rough estimate of what I could see happen. 1-2, 3-5, 6-8, and 7-10 could change. It depends on who gets more reps in these few weeks. Great job to all bands, and I wish everyone the best of luck in their future endeavors.

[glyde]

On 10/17/2025 at 9:59 AM, Bluecoat said:

Kind of off topic lol but you mentioned this not being your favorite Wakeland show. Got me thinking whats everyone's favorite show from each of these bands

Wakeland - 2024

Lone Star - 2024

LT 2025

[Dci_lover]

13 hours ago, OrangeCheeseBread said:

With a little over 2 weeks till the area, this is going to be a tough battle for all bands in this area. To which I could see a lot of these placements change.

 

My predictions:

1. Wakeland ( Very good, looks like one of their best years in a while.)

2. Lonestar ( Another really good band, could even beat Wakeland, but who knows, love their great job Lonestar!)

3. McKinney North ( Really enjoyable show, placed 20th at Prosper, but from what I heard, it wasn't a great run for them; they usually get really clean last minute, and I doubt this year will be an exception. But could see them getting 4th or 5th.)

4. Lebanon Trail ( Love the show, love what y'all are doing, and love how y'all show up when it counts, could definitely see them higher or lower, really depends on their run and other bands' run that night.) 

5. Argyle ( Show is fantastic, and very well performed. I could see them getting 4th or 3rd, but similar to Lebanon Trail and McKinney North, it depends on their runs.)

6.  Walnut Grove ( With them beating Reedy at Prosper, I see them getting 6th love what they are about, and can't wait to see them in a few weeks.)

7. Independence ( Some pretty good visuals, I enjoy the show and the idea of it, and some killer brass, but definitely a possibility of them getting 6th or even 8th.)

8. Reedy (I'm curious about where they could be placed. I haven't seen them much, but from what I have seen, it looks pretty good, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get 7th. It will be fun to watch. Great job!)

9. The Colony ( Amazing band, I like the woodwinds sound pretty good. Could get 10th, but I'm confident they will pull through.)

10. Heritage ( Decently clean visually, like what they got going for them. I'm not sure how they will do here, but it will be fun to watch.)

I can see these changing around. But it depends on what performances they do now until their show time on November 1st. This is just a rough estimate of what I could see happen. 1-2, 3-5, 6-8, and 7-10 could change. It depends on who gets more reps in these few weeks. Great job to all bands, and I wish everyone the best of luck in their future endeavors.

Reedy at 8 is a stretch. I think Lebanon trail is beating MN 

[OGFISD99]

1 hour ago, Dci_lover said:

Reedy at 8 is a stretch. I think Lebanon trail is beating MN 

I've seen  McKinney North  twice at competitions and as much as I would like to see them that high up i don't see it.... they music is amazing the students do a great job performing but it's segmented to small ensembles throughout they show it's not as cohesive as last years.... this where i can  see Reedy, independence and even emerson sneaking in..... i see McKinney North in 5th or 6th.... 

[EmersonMavbandfan101]

After seeing Region how do you think everyone will do at area currently? My predictions:

1: Wakeland (I like their show especially their opener. Will be hard to beat)

2: Lone Star (Amazing Wall of Sound. Love their ‘Journey’ theme. Could be pushing Wakeland)

3: LT (Very clean. Won McKinney contest and placed well at BOA Prosper. Seems like they keep improving every week and is going to be very hard to be knocked off)

4: Reedy (Dark Horse school. Very underated as they tied LT at prelims in McKinney. Seems liked they cleaned very well since Prosper as they had a great run at region)

5: Argyle (They have a good show. Pretty clean. They could push the last spot for state)

6: MN (Amazing soloists including the screamer trumpet. Very entertaining and wouldn’t be surprised if they compete with Argyle)

7: Walnut Grove (I don’t really see the hype for top 4, but they do look and sound clean. Unsure about the theme as well. Seemed like they had an ok run at region)

8: Independence (Very underated WALL OF SOUND. Love their theme)

9. Emerson (I have to go with my Alma mater. I love their clean sound and HUGE colorguard. I hope they finish here after prelims)

10. Liberty (They could push for a higher spot but I don’t think they are as clean as some of these other schools. Still they have an amazing show)

Bubble Spots: Colony, Memorial, Cen10, maybe even Lovejoy with their music but it’s a stretch.

I do have a Frisco sweep, but anything can happen. It isn’t called one of the hardest areas for nothing. Good luck to all the bands heading into area in two weeks!

[cheesecurd21]

Any other new predictions or thoughts after region today? Personally I think the most improvement came from LT Emerson and Reedy