UIL 5A Area B 2025

[dfwhorn]

Memorial HS of Frisco, TX announces Mark Teal as their next Director of Bands, former director of Duncanville HS. Could be a good move for the program to push higher into finals.

[Tubalord11]

  On 6/11/2025 at 2:17 AM, dfwhorn said:

Memorial HS of Frisco, TX announces Mark Teal as their next Director of Bands, former director of Duncanville HS. Could be a good move for the program to push higher into finals.

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WOW!! Yeah this is definitely gonna be a huge plus for them, hopefully helps grow the program numbers wise but they will be reaching new heights very quickly! Super excited for them

[SharksAreCool]

  On 6/11/2025 at 2:17 AM, dfwhorn said:

Memorial HS of Frisco, TX announces Mark Teal as their next Director of Bands, former director of Duncanville HS. Could be a good move for the program to push higher into finals.

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Oh snap! What a great pick up for Memorial

[dfwhorn]

  On 6/11/2025 at 2:20 AM, Tubalord11 said:

WOW!! Yeah this is definitely gonna be a huge plus for them, hopefully helps grow the program numbers wise but they will be reaching new heights very quickly! Super excited for them

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Yes this is gonna be great for the people at Memorial, I can see how they could improve a lot with this change and be a competitor in area and maybe even state one day, especially with the possibility of dropping to 4A in 2026 realignment.

[Tubalord11]

  On 6/11/2025 at 3:07 AM, dfwhorn said:

Yes this is gonna be great for the people at Memorial, I can see how they could improve a lot with this change and be a competitor in area and maybe even state one day, especially with the possibility of dropping to 4A in 2026 realignment.

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Yeah if they drop to 4A they will be kicking some serious butt, especially if Celina, PC and other top groups move to 5A

[dfwhorn]

  On 6/11/2025 at 5:11 AM, Tubalord11 said:

Yeah if they drop to 4A they will be kicking some serious butt, especially if Celina, PC and other top groups move to 5A

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Yeah, considering how they are performing good as a 5A, now with Teal if they drop to 4A they could do some crazy things over there, probably be the Cedar park of 4A or something lol

[tubaplayer12]

This area’s Honor Band Area Advancers are as follows in rank order:

Wakeland

Walnut Grove

Lebanon Trail

Independence

[Tubalord11]

  On 6/11/2025 at 9:29 AM, tubaplayer12 said:

This area’s Honor Band Area Advancers are as follows in rank order:

Wakeland

Walnut Grove

Lebanon Trail

Independence

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Congrats everyone 

[tubaplayer12]

  On 6/11/2025 at 9:29 AM, tubaplayer12 said:

This area’s Honor Band Area Advancers are as follows in rank order:

Wakeland

Walnut Grove

Lebanon Trail

Independence

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Completely forgot this was just for Region 24 lol. I’m pretty sure Argyle advanced as well?

[DrummersEcho]

Who knows? Even if these 4A schools move up to 5A, they probably will still be taking 4–5 bands to state. And as you know, we’ve got a lot of 5A state finalists in Area B. Panther Creek is super good, but I feel like they are almost, if not even, with Lebanon Trail in skill. If they had more members, yeah, maybe they could place high. Celina is definitely interesting—they have super good marching for a 4A, and I think they could definitely beat McKinney North if they had a more complex show design.

A lot of the bands in 5A that don’t even go to state would be able to make 4A state finals. Think of Anna—they got moved to 5A this year after being 4A state bronze medalists and absolutely got wrecked at Area, y’all. 5A/6A bands don’t play!

I believe Panther Creek and Celina have a chance, but they definitely have to step up their game in terms of show and drill.

[Toasty]

  On 6/11/2025 at 7:09 PM, DrummersEcho said:

Who knows? Even if these 4A schools move up to 5A, they probably will still be taking 4–5 bands to state. And as you know, we’ve got a lot of 5A state finalists in Area B. Panther Creek is super good, but I feel like they are almost, if not even, with Lebanon Trail in skill. If they had more members, yeah, maybe they could place high. Celina is definitely interesting—they have super good marching for a 4A, and I think they could definitely beat McKinney North if they had a more complex show design.

A lot of the bands in 5A that don’t even go to state would be able to make 4A state finals. Think of Anna—they got moved to 5A this year after being 4A state bronze medalists and absolutely got wrecked at Area, y’all. 5A/6A bands don’t play!

I believe Panther Creek and Celina have a chance, but they definitely have to step up their game in terms of show and drill.

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😬, i definitely don’t agree with the fact they would be similar to LT or MN, this isn’t a diss to those bands but you just can’t compare a 4A to a 5A, an example seen is at Don Hanna, panther creek got 6th and lost to bands like The colony, Mansfield, little elm, and James Martian who didn’t really place that high overall in their respective area. That’s why as you stated with Anna, despite being bronze medalists they performed poorly in 5A since it’s just such a different environment.

[DumbBandLoser]

While Panther Creek's visual program is definitely one of the best in FISD, I dont think they'd be able to beat out bands like LT or Mckinney North in terms of music.

[DrummersEcho]

  On 6/11/2025 at 7:59 PM, Toasty said:

😬, i definitely don’t agree with the fact they would be similar to LT or MN, this isn’t a diss to those bands but you just can’t compare a 4A to a 5A, an example seen is at Don Hanna, panther creek got 6th and lost to bands like The colony, Mansfield, little elm, and James Martian who didn’t really place that high overall in their respective area. That’s why as you stated with Anna, despite being bronze medalists they performed poorly in 5A since it’s just such a different environment.

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Panther Creek wasnt a bad 4A, cant lie. But yeah your right. i agree with you, they got wrecked by bands who arent even the best in the 5A Area. If they move to 5A they just gotta change their perspective completely differently. 4A state finals spots could ALL be taken by 5A Bands.

[dfwhorn]

  On 6/11/2025 at 7:59 PM, Toasty said:

😬, i definitely don’t agree with the fact they would be similar to LT or MN, this isn’t a diss to those bands but you just can’t compare a 4A to a 5A, an example seen is at Don Hanna, panther creek got 6th and lost to bands like The colony, Mansfield, little elm, and James Martian who didn’t really place that high overall in their respective area. That’s why as you stated with Anna, despite being bronze medalists they performed poorly in 5A since it’s just such a different environment.

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It's sort of an interesting effect for the transition from 4 to 5A because of that enrollment difference. The smallest non-opting 4A Dallas TAG has 546 people while the largest 5A in McKinney North has 2273 which is almost a 2,000 people difference. I think that just trying to find the right line have a good transition probably wont ever happen. It makes me wonder what would happen if a school like Frisco Memorial were to drop numbers and to fall into 4A. They don't make state but they are in that finalist bubble so it makes me wonder if they could make 4A state, especially with Teal as the new director. Also makes me wonder if Lake Dallas could take advantage of this until they inevitably pop back up to 5A. They placed higher in 4A area than in 5A area but it could be interesting to see that especially with the new staff change over at Lake Dallas.

[TrenBS]

  On 6/12/2025 at 3:56 AM, dfwhorn said:

It's sort of an interesting effect for the transition from 4 to 5A because of that enrollment difference. The smallest non-opting 4A Dallas TAG has 546 people while the largest 5A in McKinney Boyd has 2273 which is almost a 2,000 people difference. I think that just trying to find the right line have a good transition probably wont ever happen. It makes me wonder what would happen if a school like Frisco Memorial were to drop numbers and to fall into 4A. They don't make state but they are in that finalist bubble so it makes me wonder if they could make 4A state, especially with Teal as the new director. Also makes me wonder if Lake Dallas could take advantage of this until they inevitably pop back up to 5A. They placed higher in 4A area than in 5A area but it could be interesting to see that especially with the new staff change over at Lake Dallas.

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(North*)

[dfwhorn]

  On 6/12/2025 at 6:15 PM, TrenBS said:

(North*)

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My bad lol. After a while all those schools with the McKinney in their name get to you

[OGFISD99]

Lone Star announced their new assistant director.... Anyone know more about his style and what he's  accomplished at other districts? 

[UltimatePooleGlazer]

  On 6/18/2025 at 2:26 AM, OGFISD99 said:

Lone Star announced their new assistant director.... Anyone know more about his style and what he's  accomplished at other districts? 

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[LoneStarLover123]

Any changes in predictions because of this staff change? I certainly think Argyle is jumping for joy with the chance for a higher placement. 

[Tubalord11]

  On 6/20/2025 at 4:52 AM, LoneStarLover123 said:

Any changes in predictions because of this staff change? I certainly think Argyle is jumping for joy with the chance for a higher placement. 

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Nah, I expect LS to be 1 or 2 here unless something super dramatic happens which I doubt will happen 

[Brayden McHenry]

  On 5/4/2025 at 1:35 AM, Dave609 said:

Very interested to see how Melissa HS does this season with their new head director. He was a former head director from Keller Central (Kevin McNulty)

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I am on the Melissa snare line and he’s great. Looking forward to seeing how we grow going forward.

[LoneStarLover123]

when do all of the band camps start for each school (if anyone knows)?

[OGFISD99]

Probably by the end of the month.. 

[Armyguy1381]

  On 6/11/2025 at 2:17 AM, dfwhorn said:

Memorial HS of Frisco, TX announces Mark Teal as their next Director of Bands, former director of Duncanville HS. Could be a good move for the program to push higher into finals.

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This guy was terrible for Duncanville and even said on video that the kids were ok with not making state. Duncanville ran him off because he ruined the band. Hope he is better with Memorial.

[FormerWildcat]

My Way Too Early Predictions (Not to be taken as a perfect model in any sense of the word):

1. Lone Star [97.5% Finals, 95% State, 60% Win]

2. Wakeland [97.5% Finals, 90% State, 20% Win]

3. Argyle [90% Finals, 65% State, 10% Win]

4. McKinney North [85% Finals, 60% State, 5% Win]

Remaining Field: 5% Win

5. Lebanon Trail [75% Finals, 30% State]

6. Reedy [75% Finals, 25% State]

7. Walnut Grove [60% Finals, 10% State]

8. Heritage [60% Finals, 10% State]

9. Liberty [55% Finals, 5% State]

10. Memorial [50% Finals, 5% State]

11. Emerson [45% Finals, 2.5% State]

12. Melissa [40% Finals, 2.5% State]

13. The Colony [40% Finals, 2.5% State]

Remaining Field: 2.5% State

14. Independence [25% Finals]

15. Frisco [25% Finals]

16. Anna [20% Finals]

17. Centennial [20% Finals]

18. Ryan [10% Finals]

19. Denton [10% Finals]

20. Sherman [5% Finals]

21. Denison [5% Finals]

  4 hours ago, Armyguy1381 said:

This guy was terrible for Duncanville and even said on video that the kids were ok with not making state. Duncanville ran him off because he ruined the band. Hope he is better with Memorial.

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That statement seems highly inflammatory. The overwhelming support he has received in response to his apparent resignation definitely seems to contradict you. When most of the surrounding districts produce well-below average or flat-out nonexistent band programs, simply making area finals is an impressive feat. Although the Duncanville program is not at its absolute peak, it is still consistently competitive with bands that have far greater resources, & Mr. Teal deserves credit for at least maintaining a standard of excellence during his tenure. I will say I put Memorial a bit low just because I was not that impressed with their finals performance last year & the tragedy that happened at the track meet a few months ago could put a damper on the school in general.