UIL 6A Area I 2024

[bassboneman]

12 minutes ago, parshaww said:

did a judge really mess up that badly?

Yes. It could be a mistake or they just content they didn't like, 

[ruben_f]

2018 UIL Area 6A I reference

but let be for real there was a big point gap between 4-5 so the judges probably already make up their mind for those states spots…

[tubapop]

39 minutes ago, bassboneman said:

Yes. It could be a mistake or they just content they didn't like, 

Where are you seeing the breakdown by brass/woodwinds? The published one only has music vs. visual. Do you have a link?

[cincoglazer123456]

1 hour ago, bassboneman said:

Yes. It could be a mistake or they just content they didn't like, 

is there no system in place to address this large of a discrepancy? 

[bassboneman]

20 minutes ago, parshaww said:

is there no system in place to address this large of a discrepancy? 

There might be I do not know 100%.

 

1 hour ago, tubapop said:

Where are you seeing the breakdown by brass/woodwinds? The published one only has music vs. visual. Do you have a link?

It was posted on the band app by our director 

[Sideswiperr]

3 minutes ago, bassboneman said:

There might be I do not know 100%.

 

It was posted on the band app by our director 

Could you forward that link over here by any chance 😀

[Sideswiperr]

3 minutes ago, bassboneman said:

There might be I do not know 100%.

 

It was posted on the band app by our director 

Could you forward that link over here by any chance 😀

[tubapop]

59 minutes ago, parshaww said:

is there no system in place to address this large of a discrepancy? 

I think the bad judge rule might apply. For example for Bridgeland vs. Cy Woods, if the same scores given in prelims had been given in finals, then the fact that Bridgeland got two 1's in music and a 1 in visual means the lower scores would have been tossed and would have beat Cy Woods. But I don't know how that applies to lower scores, and I don't know if the rule still applies today. All I know about it is rumors from years past.

[bassboneman]

I don't think I can sorry. It's a picture of the recaps

1 hour ago, Sideswiperr said:

Could you forward that link over here by any chance 😀

 

[bassboneman]

2 hours ago, Sideswiperr said:

Could you forward that link over here by any chance 😀

You know what. Whatever

[tubapop]

3 minutes ago, bassboneman said:

You know what. Whatever

And they said sharing of the page wouldn't work!

[Band_momCR]

47 minutes ago, bassboneman said:

You know what. Whatever

What does “CONT” mean in the scoring categories?

[tubapop]

15 minutes ago, Band_momCR said:

What does “CONT” mean in the scoring categories?

Content

[bassboneman]

15 hours ago, tubapop said:

And they said sharing of the page wouldn't work!

yeah... I said screw it.

[Ozzy898]

They took cywoods area win away because bridgeland had 2 1’s in music and 1 in visual

[Bad.robot]

This is a crappy way to lose the championship for Cy Woods. This is a five judge contest, not three. 

[tubapop]

Bad judge rule. Bridgeland wins Area I. 

[Sideswiperr]

1 minute ago, tubapop said:

Bad judge rule. Bridgeland wins Area I. 

I don’t know if I would classify this as a bad judge scenario** per se, the rule is still gonna apply but even then.

[tubapop]

3 minutes ago, Sideswiperr said:

I don’t know if I would classify this as a bad judge scenario** per se, the rule is still gonna apply but even then.

isn't it the same judge who put jordan 17 in music? i thought that was nuts as well.

[TypicalBandNerd]

Unfortunate news for Cypress Woods. They still had a fantastic run and should still be very proud of their accomplishments. I definitely see them in the running for State Finals. Regardless of the outcome, the correct bands are advancing to state and that's all that matters. Congrats to Bridgleand HS on being the new area champions!!!

[Sideswiperr]

1 minute ago, tubapop said:

isn't it the same judge who put jordan 17 in music? i thought that was nuts as well.

Oh for sure, that was what tripped me up as well, while I do think a Bridgeland 4th for music is a bit low for Bridgeland, I think a “17th” for Jordan is much more “shocking”, I mean congratulations to Bridgeland for winning the area, it’s just I wish these recaps could have been more consistent if were gonna get a prelims only round.

[BandAlumMom]

16 minutes ago, Sideswiperr said:

I don’t know if I would classify this as a bad judge scenario** per se, the rule is still gonna apply but even then.

It’s not - it’s two judges that ranked them lower, and it’s not that low.

I’m guessing this rule was made after incidents like the rather egregious mess in area E in 2018, which was definitely a bad judge situation.  (Four judges ranked Clements 1st, one ninth - that same judge ranked Pearland 1st.  The other judges had Pearland either 2nd or 3rd, but Pearland was the area champ.)

I understand wanting to have a rule for this situation, but it seems to be written in a way that catches other situations that aren’t really a “bad judge”.

[DCN]

28 minutes ago, BandAlumMom said:

It’s not - it’s two judges that ranked them lower, and it’s not that low.

I’m guessing this rule was made after incidents like the rather egregious mess in area E in 2018, which was definitely a bad judge situation.  (Four judges ranked Clements 1st, one ninth - that same judge ranked Pearland 1st.  The other judges had Pearland either 2nd or 3rd, but Pearland was the area champ.)

I understand wanting to have a rule for this situation, but it seems to be written in a way that catches other situations that aren’t really a “bad judge”.

I don't think it's the "bad judge rule" but it's something different. I never knew this existed before I started digging through the rules.

[BandAlumMom]

1 minute ago, DCN said:

I don't think it's the "bad judge rule" but it's something different. I never knew this existed before I started digging through the rules.

Yeah, I guess it seems similar to the “bad judge” rule, but it is specific to area champion.  But I know it wasn’t in place in 2018 because I was at the area E contest (full disclosure:  my kid didn’t go to Pearland or Clements) and the judging was a big topic of conversation after that.  I think this link will work:

https://www.uiltexas.org/files/music/6A_Area_E.pdf

I really think this is the kind of situation this rule was meant to address.

[tubapop]

I’m very curious to hear how everyone opposed to this exception would rewrite the rule. If you have three 1’s and a 2 and a 3, it seems wrong to throw those out. Two 4’s, as with Bridgeland? Maybe. One 9, as with Clements, definitely. Maybe make the requirement four 1’s and one bad judge to trigger the rule? The focus would need to be on how many wayward judges you need to trigger the rule, and how far off they need to be from the mainstream judges.