UIL 4A AREA B 2025

[Gpk1968]

3 minutes ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

2025 4A AREA MARCHING SCHEDULE - SCHEDULE.pdf 50.86 kB · 0 downloads

Kinda sad they're not waiting until Region 20 performs tomorrow to post the schedule. I know those bands don't tend to do well, but I still feel like they should've waited just in case. Kinda hope one of them gets a 1 now so that they have to fix the schedule (times won't change drastically if that happens). Also, it's pretty interesting that there are only two judges' breaks, and one of them is the lunch break. Don't really care how much I love band, don't think I could sit and watch them with a keen eye for almost 3 hours before itching to get up and stretch.

That does kind of suck, but most of those bands are non-varsity. I think there are only two who could advance and it’s possible they did not complete the area intent form to begin with. But maybe the did. I don’t know. 

[tastiestbiscuit123]

4 minutes ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

That does kind of suck, but most of those bands are non-varsity. I think there are only two who could advance and it’s possible they did not complete the area intent form to begin with. But maybe the did. I don’t know. 

When looking at the Draw Order, I think you're actually correct. I think Townview Center may not have completed the draw order, while David W. Carter may have.

[Tubaplaya2011]

Did anyone notice Godley and Benbrook swapped compared to the draw order?

[Bulldog1]

I’m more concerned about the 65% chance of rain Saturday In Denton never fails it wants to rain during uil lol 

[Area D band geek]

58 minutes ago, Bulldog1 said:

I’m more concerned about the 65% chance of rain Saturday In Denton never fails it wants to rain during uil lol 

I know! It's looking like a repeat of last year! I hope it changes by then!

[ntxflutiez]

1 hour ago, Area D band geek said:

I know! It's looking like a repeat of last year! I hope it changes by then!

Or at least they push it to Monday now lol!

[tastiestbiscuit123]

I'm going to go ahead and give my predictions for this contest. As a disclaimer, I am entirely aware that many people on this forum are members of the respective bands they discuss (I was like that too back in high school, I see y'all). Please, just, respect my opinion. The thing is, this is for fun, and none of us are experts in anything we're talking about, and we're very commonly wrong about many things. I've made predictions that have been both pretty close and ones that have been far off. Trust me, I know that like at least 50% or more of this is going to be wrong. And quite honestly? Prove me wrong on Saturday. I'm just saying this because some people can get defensive when their band is missing from the list, or not in the position they hope. I can elaborate on why I think this if anyone would like me to:

1. Panther Creek
2. China Spring
3. Krum
4. Gatesville
5. Alvarado
*6. Springtown*
7. Robinson
8. Stephenville
9. Richland
10. Aubrey
11. Godley
12. Kennedale
Just out of Finals - Brock, Castleberry, Eagle Mountain, Venus
* State cutoff

[Tubaplaya2011]

If they push it to Monday, Godley gets the honors of Area on Monday and USBands ATT on Tuesday.

[Aaron1217]

14 minutes ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

I'm going to go ahead and give my predictions for this contest. As a disclaimer, I am entirely aware that many people on this forum are members of the respective bands they discuss (I was like that too back in high school, I see y'all). Please, just, respect my opinion. The thing is, this is for fun, and none of us are experts in anything we're talking about, and we're very commonly wrong about many things. I've made predictions that have been both pretty close and ones that have been far off. Trust me, I know that like at least 50% or more of this is going to be wrong. And quite honestly? Prove me wrong on Saturday. I'm just saying this because some people can get defensive when their band is missing from the list, or not in the position they hope. I can elaborate on why I think this if anyone would like me to:

1. Panther Creek
2. China Spring
3. Krum
4. Gatesville
5. Alvarado
*6. Springtown*
7. Robinson
8. Stephenville
9. Richland
10. Aubrey
11. Godley
12. Kennedale
Just out of Finals - Brock, Castleberry, Eagle Mountain, Venus
* State cutoff

Can you elaborate on Castleberry 

[Gpk1968]

31 minutes ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

Prove me wrong on Saturday

Love this energy. Bring it, kids. 

[dfwhorn]

It's great to see the amount of new advancers to this area! Richland makes it in their first year, and it's also sweet to see a return to Ranchview to this area after a few years!! what a time to be living in in the marching band world.

[tastiestbiscuit123]

1 hour ago, Aaron1217 said:

Can you elaborate on Castleberry 

They started strong at the Wildcat Preview by beating every 4A besides Alvarado, but then at Springtown, they only made it to Finals because there were 10 bands bigger than 3A (every judge in Prelims gave them 10th Place). Because of how Springtown did at other contests, if they had competed, they would've made Finals, knocking Castleberry out.

To me, Castleberry is repeating its history, but differently; last year was a different year for Castleberry. For the first time since the UIL began publicly announcing Prelims and Finals results, Castleberry experienced a decline between the two rounds, when making Finals. In 2004, 2006, and 2012, they stayed in the same place between the two rounds. In 2008, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2021, and 2023, they went up. In 2024, they went down for the first time. Additionally, Castleberry has been characterized by its hills and valleys for two and a half decades:
They made State in 2000, even making State Finals.
They did not make State in 2002 (not aware if they even made Area Finals).
They made State in 2004.
They made Area Finals in 2006, placing 6th. They made Area Finals in 2008, going from 9th to 7th.
They did not advance to Area Finals in 2010, placing 12th (only 10 advanced to Finals).
They made State in 2012.
They made Area Finals in 2014, going from 9th to 7th.
They made State in 2016. They made State in 2018.
They skipped the 2020 season.
They made Area Finals in 2021, going from 12th to 9th.
They did not advance to Area Finals in 2022, placing 15th.
They made State in 2023.
They made Area Finals in 2024, going from 8th to 10th.
What happens is that Castleberry makes State, dips until they don't make Area Finals (or get really close to missing it), then pops back up to State, and repeat. Notice how they dipped slowly from 2006 to 2010, then jumped? The same thing happened in 2014, then they saw an extended State run before dipping slowly out of Finals again, and jumping back up. That valley seems to be where they're headed this year.

However, I put them in the 'Just out of Finals' because to me, those 16 bands are all deserving of a Finals run, and I will be thrilled when whatever combination of them makes it.

[tastiestbiscuit123]

1 hour ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

I'm going to go ahead and give my predictions for this contest. As a disclaimer, I am entirely aware that many people on this forum are members of the respective bands they discuss (I was like that too back in high school, I see y'all). Please, just, respect my opinion. The thing is, this is for fun, and none of us are experts in anything we're talking about, and we're very commonly wrong about many things. I've made predictions that have been both pretty close and ones that have been far off. Trust me, I know that like at least 50% or more of this is going to be wrong. And quite honestly? Prove me wrong on Saturday. I'm just saying this because some people can get defensive when their band is missing from the list, or not in the position they hope. I can elaborate on why I think this if anyone would like me to:

1. Panther Creek
2. China Spring
3. Krum
4. Gatesville
5. Alvarado
*6. Springtown*
7. Robinson
8. Stephenville
9. Richland
10. Aubrey
11. Godley
12. Kennedale
Just out of Finals - Brock, Castleberry, Eagle Mountain, Venus
* State cutoff

Overall, I'm confident in the top 5 or so places. The other 7 are just me taking results from this year and trying my best to compare bands when they haven't competed against each other yet (like Stephenville and Richland). I'm also going off the fact that the bands all stay the same with respect to one another, when in actuality, it's been a week and a half since the last contest, and each band improves at a different pace than the others.

[tastycheetos318]

5 hours ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

I'm going to go ahead and give my predictions for this contest. As a disclaimer, I am entirely aware that many people on this forum are members of the respective bands they discuss (I was like that too back in high school, I see y'all). Please, just, respect my opinion. The thing is, this is for fun, and none of us are experts in anything we're talking about, and we're very commonly wrong about many things. I've made predictions that have been both pretty close and ones that have been far off. Trust me, I know that like at least 50% or more of this is going to be wrong. And quite honestly? Prove me wrong on Saturday. I'm just saying this because some people can get defensive when their band is missing from the list, or not in the position they hope. I can elaborate on why I think this if anyone would like me to:

1. Panther Creek
2. China Spring
3. Krum
4. Gatesville
5. Alvarado
*6. Springtown*
7. Robinson
8. Stephenville
9. Richland
10. Aubrey
11. Godley
12. Kennedale
Just out of Finals - Brock, Castleberry, Eagle Mountain, Venus
* State cutoff

would u elaborate on eagle mountain?

[rudy12]

17 hours ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

That does kind of suck, but most of those bands are non-varsity. I think there are only two who could advance and it’s possible they did not complete the area intent form to begin with. But maybe the did. I don’t know. 

They also may have signaled that they want to do region only.

[tastiestbiscuit123]

6 hours ago, bandkid3110 said:

would u elaborate on eagle mountain?

I think people are putting too much hype into Eagle Mountain, personally (including me early on), just because there's this precedent that in a school's second year (and sometimes even first), they tend to do really well (take Panther Creek, Lake Belton, West Plains, and even Legacy Ranch from what I've seen, possibly including Freeman too, etc.). However, just because it's a precedent doesn't mean it's going to happen. Unlike Panther Creek, Legacy Ranch, Lake Belton, and the others, Eagle Mountain didn't make Area Finals their first year (while every other band did), and additionally was not beating State Qualifiers and State Finalists at Invitationals and Previews this year; they weren't even beating Area Finalists (take Don Hanna, where I heard they got 3rd in Class 4A to Krum and Kennedale, only one of which was an Area Finalist last year, the other placing 14th). I'm not saying they won't make Finals (once again, I could see any of those 16 bands making it), I'm just saying I don't think they're gonna jump from 24th last year to 4th this year, but rather that they're going to be approaching Finals, and near the bottom of it if they make it. I mentioned this about a week ago, but I think we need to give Eagle Mountain another year or two before they qualify for State. They just need to see the rigor of what Area Finals is like to be able to prepare for it.

[Gpk1968]

1 hour ago, rudy12 said:

They also may have signaled that they want to do region only.

Yes, that’s what the area intent form is for. Bands who do not submit the form stop at region. 

[Dave609]

So from everything I have seen this season, this is my personal take on who could be the 6 bands to advance to State from this area-

1st- China Spring

2nd- Panther Creek (could see them take first)

3rd- Krum

4th- Alvarado

5th- Robinson

6th- Stephenville (have been close many times, but think they could do it this year)

7th (first out)- Gatesville (if they have a similar performance to last year, then they could definitely make it)

8th (second out)- Springtown

[Gpk1968]

23 minutes ago, Dave609 said:

So from everything I have seen this season, this is my personal take on who could be the 6 bands to advance to State from this area-

1st- China Spring

2nd- Panther Creek (could see them take first)

3rd- Krum

4th- Alvarado

5th- Robinson

6th- Stephenville (have been close many times, but think they could do it this year)

7th (first out)- Gatesville (if they have a similar performance to last year, then they could definitely make it)

8th (second out)- Springtown

Can you elaborate on Gatesville? Seems wild to me that they would miss out since they were 8th at the smbc last year. Is it just the show this year? A lucky streak last year? I have not seen them yet but they were one of my favorites last year. 

[Dave609]

44 minutes ago, GarbagePatchKid said:

Can you elaborate on Gatesville? Seems wild to me that they would miss out since they were 8th at the smbc last year. Is it just the show this year? A lucky streak last year? I have not seen them yet but they were one of my favorites last year. 

I'll be honest, their placements have not reflected what I would have expected from them. They could definitely sneak back into a state spot, but I don't feel they have been the same band like the last few years. But I could be completely wrong and they suprise me

[cheeto2401]

On 10/20/2025 at 10:43 PM, Tubaplaya2011 said:

Who said anything about sleeping on Gatesville?

some of these people be saying how gatesville wont be as good as they were last year, but y'all just gotta wait 🙏

[cheeto2401]

14 hours ago, tastiestbiscuit123 said:

I'm going to go ahead and give my predictions for this contest. As a disclaimer, I am entirely aware that many people on this forum are members of the respective bands they discuss (I was like that too back in high school, I see y'all). Please, just, respect my opinion. The thing is, this is for fun, and none of us are experts in anything we're talking about, and we're very commonly wrong about many things. I've made predictions that have been both pretty close and ones that have been far off. Trust me, I know that like at least 50% or more of this is going to be wrong. And quite honestly? Prove me wrong on Saturday. I'm just saying this because some people can get defensive when their band is missing from the list, or not in the position they hope. I can elaborate on why I think this if anyone would like me to:

1. Panther Creek
2. China Spring
3. Krum
4. Gatesville
5. Alvarado
*6. Springtown*
7. Robinson
8. Stephenville
9. Richland
10. Aubrey
11. Godley
12. Kennedale
Just out of Finals - Brock, Castleberry, Eagle Mountain, Venus
* State cutoff

i personally wouldnt place Aubrey that low, since they did end up being top 3 at area finals last year, I havent see them yet but I would go top 8 at least

[Dave609]

Both Carter and Townview Center got 1's at Region. I know it doesn't effect the amount of bands going to state, but wanted to let everyone know!

[Dave609]

Also, apparently, Kimball got a 3...Not a 1

[tastiestbiscuit123]

3 hours ago, Dave609 said:

I'll be honest, their placements have not reflected what I would have expected from them. They could definitely sneak back into a state spot, but I don't feel they have been the same band like the last few years. But I could be completely wrong and they suprise me

I do have to agree with this, but Gatesville did take the music caption over Legacy Ranch at the Vista Ridge Invitational. Also, at Springtown last year, Alvarado got 7th and Gatesville got 8th, and this year they both bumped up a spot. Gatesville's competitions this year didn't really see them be able to compare themselves to other bands in the Area, so it's tough for me to rank them, just like with Richland and Stephenville.