UIL 5A AREA C 2025

[sigmaboi]

17 minutes ago, arandomperrson said:

another concept id factor in is "implicit bias", which is basically subconscious bias formed over years of experience
even if this former mesquite director isnt inherently trying to biased and falsify the results, his 10 years at mesquite could definitely impact his perception of the mesquite schools subconsciously, so while they might be judging in good intentions, things could always go wrong when a past director is judging their own schools
i do think it would be best for the area if a different judge was chosen, even if the mesquite schools are likely to make state its always better to be safe than sorry when it comes to heated topics like these

i completely agree with you!!!

[Mj17]

20 minutes ago, arandomperrson said:

another concept id factor in is "implicit bias", which is basically subconscious bias formed over years of experience
even if this former mesquite director isnt inherently trying to biased and falsify the results, his 10 years at mesquite could definitely impact his perception of the mesquite schools subconsciously, so while they might be judging in good intentions, things could always go wrong when a past director is judging their own schools
i do think it would be best for the area if a different judge was chosen, even if the mesquite schools are likely to make state its always better to be safe than sorry when it comes to heated topics like these

Agreed. But I would assume UIL made sure this wouldn’t be the case otherwise they would’ve done it. Steve was a great fine arts director and shouldn’t be put down based off others opinions (not facts) of how they feel things will go 

[sigmaboi]

11 minutes ago, Mj17 said:

Agreed. But I would assume UIL made sure this wouldn’t be the case otherwise they would’ve done it. Steve was a great fine arts director and shouldn’t be put down based off others opinions (not facts) of how they feel things will go 

i agree but its just precautions i think UIL should honestly take just giving the history

[bandsmakemedanse]

Yall can spout on about “conflicts of interest” but based on the UIL’s own guidelines, there is none here.  That should be the end of the discussion.  Additionally, the outrage is premature given that Area hasn’t even happened yet.  Y’all are just speculating and making assumptions.  Finally, if all MISD bands make state, that means other judges also would have scored them highly. A band should not be faulted for things beyond their control, like which judges are selected.

[Idkwhattoputhere]

Let’s let the area happen first before saying anything….

[bigbluebandisthebest1122s]

The bands advancing to area as i know

1.mount pleasant 

2.marshall

3.texas high 

 

[Dave609]

1 minute ago, bigbluebandisthebest1122s said:

The bands advancing to area as i know

1.mount pleasant 

2.marshall

3.texas high 

 

Good thing is that Hallsville got a 1 from Region 4 today, which helps with spots as well!

[sigmaboi]

https://www.youtube.com/live/RyDRJdKls7g?si=UbO8NlPbMwST8gW9

3;40.52 mp band 

[wtxbd02]

20 hours ago, bandsmakemedanse said:

Yall can spout on about “conflicts of interest” but based on the UIL’s own guidelines, there is none here.  That should be the end of the discussion.  Additionally, the outrage is premature given that Area hasn’t even happened yet.  Y’all are just speculating and making assumptions.  Finally, if all MISD bands make state, that means other judges also would have scored them highly. A band should not be faulted for things beyond their control, like which judges are selected.

This is about all that needs to be said here.  

[bandsmakemedanse]

2 hours ago, sigmaboi said:

https://www.youtube.com/live/RyDRJdKls7g?si=UbO8NlPbMwST8gW9

3;40.52 mp band 

Love this show!! It’s so entertaining.  I just feel conflicted because they rarely even march and mostly flutter to spots.  Their drill is definitely much simpler than other bands.  I wonder if there is any penalty or rather if other bands are ranked higher for marching due to difficulty.

[sigmaboi]

13 minutes ago, bandsmakemedanse said:

Love this show!! It’s so entertaining.  I just feel conflicted because they rarely even march and mostly flutter to spots.  Their drill is definitely much simpler than other bands.  I wonder if there is any penalty or rather if other bands are ranked higher for marching due to difficulty.

Frrr??? i feel as if they actually do have the drill and what not whatt especially in the last part and first part like i always see constant marching on the field frrr

[bandlover27]

23 minutes ago, Bandbuddy7 said:

Definitely would not say that there is a lack of marching nor that the drill is simple, MP’s drill probably has the highest velocity in the area from what i’ve seen.

Definitely dont see that in their band sorry.. Ive seen shows  like North m, Poteet, Lc, And even west with harder drill…

[bandsmakemedanse]

28 minutes ago, bandlover27 said:

Definitely dont see that in their band sorry.. Ive seen shows  like North m, Poteet, Lc, And even west with harder drill…

HP also has harder drill despite being half the size.  I suspect those other responses are from mp students.

It has become exhausting engaging with people that cannot remove their personal feelings from discussions of objective things like difficulty and demand of a school’s drill and music.  Difficulty is in fact objective, just look at how concert music is graded by difficulty.  Or the objective truth that Hebron, for example plays harder music and marches more difficult drill than all 5A and 6A in this Area.

 

Additionally, let’s look at the score sheets that judges will look at during Area.  The following are measures that judges use to rank bands: frequency/demand of movement while playing (mp mostly stands still while playing); suitability of content, which measures execution and demand of the drill (which as discussed, mp may execute well but the demand is not there. Including score sheets and guidance to judges by the UIL’s own manual on judging.

[bandlover27]

Any updates on bands that are advancing to area?

[sigmaboi]

hmmm intresting 

[Bandbuddy7]

4 minutes ago, sigmaboi said:

hmmm intresting 

very interesting indeed. 

[sigmaboi]

Just now, Bandbuddy7 said:

very interesting indeed. 

u saw that magical disappearance?

[waynet2010]

Is it 20 bands at area gets 4 bands to state or 25 bands?

[bandlover27]

2 minutes ago, waynet2010 said:

Is it 20 bands at area gets 4 bands to finals or 25 bands?

20

[bandloserrr]

1 hour ago, Bandbuddy7 said:

very interesting indeed. 

This sounds very ominous I'm scared...

[Bandbuddy7]

13 minutes ago, bandloserrr said:

This sounds very ominous I'm scared...

Let’s just say our perfectly valid comments weren’t to the liking of some.. it’s okay though! No hard feelings:)

[bigbluebandisthebest1122s]

Any new listings about area finals predictions??

[sigmaboi]

15 hours ago, bigbluebandisthebest1122s said:

Any new listings about area finals predictions??

1. poteet 

2. north/lakeview/mp/west

3.north/ lakeview/mp/ west 

4.north/lakeview/mp/west

5. north/lakeview/mp/west

6.kaufman

7. red oak

8. highland park 

9. texas high 

10. up for grabs

its honestly very difficult too predict 2-5 like they are just so close tg cant really tell but poteet imo is for sure winning this area.. and i just dont see marshall making area finals this year unless they can really clean that show up and which i hope they dp ;(

[Alexa890]

20 minutes ago, sigmaboi said:

1. poteet 

2. north/lakeview/mp/west

3.north/ lakeview/mp/ west 

4.north/lakeview/mp/west

5. north/lakeview/mp/west

6.kaufman

7. red oak

8. highland park 

9. texas high 

10. up for grabs

its honestly very difficult too predict 2-5 like they are just so close tg cant really tell but poteet imo is for sure winning this area.. and i just dont see marshall making area finals this year unless they can really clean that show up and which i hope they dp ;(

What about terrell heard that they are doing good lately?

[sigmaboi]

9 minutes ago, Alexa890 said:

What about terrell heard that they are doing good lately?

i knew i was missing a band 

but im gonna say beloew highland park but above texas high cause i saw texas high in person and wow they have such a good sound