UIL 6A Area C 2025

[stateboundsaxes]

10 hours ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Ok….. here we go… 6 days out! No more top 5 bottom 5 box. 
 

1 Wax

2 Forney

3 Rockwall

4 Sachse

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5 Heath

6 Lake Highlands

7  Richardson

8 North Forney

9 Duncanville

10 Berkner

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11 JJ Pearce

12 Tyler Legacy

13 Garland

14 North Garland

15 Nimitz

16 Mesquite 

17 Royse City

18 Rowlett

19 MacArthur

20 Horn

21 Irving

22 Skyline

 

1) I don’t think Wax has shown anything not to be clear number. 
 

2-3 Forney finished Just ahead of Rockwall at BOA and has a few more skins on the wall and state history but Rockwall has made a steady rise over the past 3 years. I think whichever marches later in Finals will squeak out ahead in overall top 5. 
 

4-5. This is the gut wrenching, Heart pounding position to be. Rockwall was there last year. It’s tough to hear your name 5th and be so close. History is on Sachse side here but Heath has been solid this year and surprised many with their  BOA Prosper finish and MMI finish. On Sunday, I give the edge to Sachse….but if Heath can polish up the last minute thirty to 2 minutes of their show this week and finish as strong as they start…we could have a Rockwall ISD Rorange party on the riverwalk!

6 solid finish for Lake Highlands. The little engine that can in Richardson ISD

7-12 I think you could throw a dart at for the final 4 spots in finals! Duncanville has not beed as strong this year but something tells me they have too much pride to go away quietly. 
 

13-21 Some really great bands in here that would likely finish higher in any other region than maybe E and J in metroplex. 
 

22 Welcome the show Skyline!

I will say it’s kinda hard to make my list rn because there are literally no traces of Berkners show. Last I saw them was at BOA Dallas  and wht they scored wasn’t far off from Sachse. Mind you they won area last year. Also after comparing their BOA Dallas  score to Rockwalls BOA prosper score they seem to be doing pretty we’re for themselves.  
 

 

I will say that Lake highlands has a good chance in finals. JJP and RHS might just have to rock paper scissors for a spot. 
 

these RISD schools making finals a tough fight ngl 

[stateboundsaxes]

Can we just talk about the weather for Saturday. What do you mean there’s gonna be rain 😐

[Tbcord140]

36 minutes ago, BugWub24 said:

Here is my final prediction for 6A Area C! I will be there next weekend for both prelims and finals!

 

1. Waxahachie. Self-explanatory. They did lose visual to SGP this past weekend, but otherwise, I haven't seen anything that wouldn't make them the clear winner. They aren't losing it this time.

2. Forney. If design was judged at area, this would be self-explanatory. Even then, I do think they excel on the more finer things compared to the bands below them.

3. Sachse. Call me crazy, but a clean run of this show could potentially make noise at the top - remember last year. Definitely not as strong as last year, but they are one of the most consistent bands in the area across the board; they do everything really well.

4. Rockwall. Unlike the Cowboys, it's actually their year. After a surprise appearance in 2018, Rockwall has slowly built themselves up, and is now one of the best in the area. After a few years hanging on the state bubble, they are ready to be a consistent state qualifier (although, if not for Region 24, this would have happened already lol).

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5. Rockwall-Heath. The surprise of Area C. To say they've had a meteoric rise would be an understatement. Everything has started to click for them this year. Right now, they sit just outside the state echelon for me, but if some visuals get cleaned up, we may very well be singing a different tune next week! This area DESPERATELY needs five bands advancing to state.

6. Lake Highlands. Out of all the Richardson bands this year, they have shown the most consistency. Everything they do is so polished that I wouldn't be shocked if they played spoiler.

7. Berkner. Haven't seen a lot from them this year, but they are always consistent. They scored fairly close to Sachse at BOA Dallas, so anything can happen. We shall see.

8. North Forney. Welcome to the finals echelon! They had a really strong showing last year, and now they are ready to make the move up. Very good program on the rise here!

9. J.J. Pearce. Definitely not as strong of a year for them, but that may be more of an indication of the bands around them. They were pretty comparable to North Forney at McKinney, but some inconsistent visual judging in Prelims allowed NF to make finals over them. Nevertheless, I am still confident they will be in finals here.

10. Duncanville. It just feels wrong to put them here, but they have slid down the most from this area. Both Pearce and NF had better scores in music at McKinney than Duncanville did at Birdville. They also placed below bands that they never would have a year ago. I could see them missing finals, but there's just too much history for them to go away quietly.

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Now for some finals bubble bands!

Tyler Legacy is the top finals bubble band for me - I could see them sneaking in over Duncanville if the cards are dealt their way. Some other players are North Garland, Garland, Rowlett, John Horn, and Royse City.

Y'all are heavily undershootin North Garland...

[JFNDOWBFAN]

9 minutes ago, stateboundsaxes said:

Can we just talk about the weather for Saturday. What do you mean there’s gonna be rain 😐

No no no no no stop that right now

[BugWub24]

13 minutes ago, stateboundsaxes said:

Can we just talk about the weather for Saturday. What do you mean there’s gonna be rain 😐

Checked multiple weather apps, the rain is only supposed to be throughout Friday into early Saturday morning, with skies clearing by 9:00 AM.

[BugWub24]

1 hour ago, BugWub24 said:

Here is my final prediction for 6A Area C! I will be there next weekend for both prelims and finals!

 

1. Waxahachie. Self-explanatory. They did lose visual to SGP this past weekend, but otherwise, I haven't seen anything that wouldn't make them the clear winner. They aren't losing it this time.

2. Forney. If design was judged at area, this would be self-explanatory. Even then, I do think they excel on the more finer things compared to the bands below them.

3. Sachse. Call me crazy, but a clean run of this show could potentially make noise at the top - remember last year. Definitely not as strong as last year, but they are one of the most consistent bands in the area across the board; they do everything really well.

4. Rockwall. Unlike the Cowboys, it's actually their year. After a surprise appearance in 2018, Rockwall has slowly built themselves up, and is now one of the best in the area. After a few years hanging on the state bubble, they are ready to be a consistent state qualifier (although, if not for Region 24, this would have happened already lol).

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5. Rockwall-Heath. The surprise of Area C. To say they've had a meteoric rise would be an understatement. Everything has started to click for them this year. Right now, they sit just outside the state echelon for me, but if some visuals get cleaned up, we may very well be singing a different tune next week! This area DESPERATELY needs five bands advancing to state.

6. Lake Highlands. Out of all the Richardson bands this year, they have shown the most consistency. Everything they do is so polished that I wouldn't be shocked if they played spoiler.

7. Berkner. Haven't seen a lot from them this year, but they are always consistent. They scored fairly close to Sachse at BOA Dallas, so anything can happen. We shall see.

8. North Forney. Welcome to the finals echelon! They had a really strong showing last year, and now they are ready to make the move up. Very good program on the rise here!

9. J.J. Pearce. Definitely not as strong of a year for them, but that may be more of an indication of the bands around them. They were pretty comparable to North Forney at McKinney, but some inconsistent visual judging in Prelims allowed NF to make finals over them. Nevertheless, I am still confident they will be in finals here.

10. Duncanville. It just feels wrong to put them here, but they have slid down the most from this area. Both Pearce and NF had better scores in music at McKinney than Duncanville did at Birdville. They also placed below bands that they never would have a year ago. I could see them missing finals, but there's just too much history for them to go away quietly.

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Now for some finals bubble bands!

Tyler Legacy is the top finals bubble band for me - I could see them sneaking in over Duncanville if the cards are dealt their way. Some other players are Richardson, North Garland, Garland, Rowlett, John Horn, and Royse City.

completely forgot about Richardson when I wrote this up, they are in now.

[BugWub24]

Official Schedule for the 2025 6A Area C Marching Contest.

SKYLINE IS ATTENDING!!!!!!!!!!!

[E1.]

1 hour ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

No snark intended here. My bias is in my name! My rooting interest is both RW and RHHS advancing to state and heck of a party on the Riverwalk. 
 

That all spoken, where do you see Heath passing Rockwall this year? They attended 3 contest together this year and Rockwall was several spots ahead at each of those contest. What do you think RHHS would need to do to make the jump at Area?

Well at McKinney they beat their brass in prelims, so we jnow its possible for their brass block to be stronger. At Prosper Heath beat them in music ensemble, and I heard that one of the judges at the region contest preferred Heaths woodwinds to Rockwalls. I think one really solid run from Heath could put all of this together and surpass Rockwall. Also in MMI prelims Heath was only 5 points off from rockwall, and they were 2.975 off at Prosper. Without the GE caption at prosper they're only 1.525 points off. Rockwall is an incredible group though so it won't be easy for them. 

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Ohhhhh TCU Marching Band exhibition, that’s a new one!

[JFNDOWBFAN]

And full band retreat!!! Don’t mess this up Mother Nature

[BandDad11]

51 minutes ago, E1. said:

Well at McKinney they beat their brass in prelims, so we jnow its possible for their brass block to be stronger. At Prosper Heath beat them in music ensemble, and I heard that one of the judges at the region contest preferred Heaths woodwinds to Rockwalls. I think one really solid run from Heath could put all of this together and surpass Rockwall. Also in MMI prelims Heath was only 5 points off from rockwall, and they were 2.975 off at Prosper. Without the GE caption at prosper they're only 1.525 points off. Rockwall is an incredible group though so it won't be easy for them. 

To add on, the new judging system will help Heath even more.

Let’s break down the comparison by caption:

Woodwinds - Heath placed higher than Rockwall’s woodwinds both prelims and finals at McKinney. Heath’s added their closer since then which has a technical woodwind feature that may boost their scores even more. I’m fairly confident WWs are a lock for Heath.

Brass - Heath is right there with Rockwall’s brass per McKinney results. While referencing that contest may seem outdated, both bands have had a steady improvement rate in tone, clarity, and timing (something Heath has struggled on in the past). Something that I believe Heath has an edge over Rockwall in is power and confidence. Rockwall’s brass lacks that sometimes. I could see brass going either way.

Percussion - Rockwall’s percussion tends to execute their music very cleanly. The only issue is that their music is just objectively easier than Heath’s. Heath has more room for growth due to the difficulty of their percussion’s repertoire, which come area, may very well be enough to place higher than Rockwall’s percussion. I’m leaning towards Heath for this caption.

Visuals - this is where the real gray area lies. Heath historically scores lower in visuals than their music while Rockwall is usually pretty clean. One judge placed Heath’s visuals higher than Rockwall’s at McKinney while the other somewhat tanked Heath’s visual score. It may be up to what these judges will be looking for.

I noticed visual flaws in both bands’ recordings from Region. Heath still has some small drill things to clean up, but it’s considerably better than their Prosper run. Rockwall has also cleaned up a bit, but I noticed that their choreo (specifically new choreo in the closer) is rather dirty. This caption seems much more nuanced and I could see it going either way. If Heath can outperform Rockwall in music, that 60% to 40% music/visuals weighting may give them the edge.

Something else to consider - neither band is a finals band. What I mean by this is that historically, when Rockwall or Heath make finals, they usually score/place lower than they did in prelims. Take McKinney or Area finals from last year, both bands placed lower. They may just get overly excited and lose focus. If this effect affects one band more than the other in finals, it may be a determining factor.

I’m not confident enough currently to place one band over the other. While I can tell both bands are improving, I can also see that Heath seems to be improving at a faster pace. It all depends on whether Heath can close and pass that gap in time for Area or not. If their band truly wants state, I believe they can get it.

[SharksAreCool]

@E1.  @BandDad11, y’all are making some great points. Here’s the thing about all this though (feel free to disagree). The results at McKinney don’t really matter. From my prospective it doesn’t really matter what happened at past contests considering both shows at that point were not finished. Now I know y’all are both from Rockwall Heath so here’s my opinion. They could definitely make state, they’ve just got to clean up their show and look ahead, not behind.

[BandDad11]

7 minutes ago, SharksAreCool said:

@E1.  @BandDad11, y’all are making some great points. Here’s the thing about all this though (feel free to disagree). The results at McKinney don’t really matter. From my prospective it doesn’t really matter what happened at past contests considering both shows at that point were not finished. Now I know y’all are both from Rockwall Heath so here’s my opinion. They could definitely make state, they’ve just got to clean up their show and look ahead, not behind.

I agree, I know McKinney isn’t an accurate reference point anymore. I used it more for the fact that it utilized the new area judging system and that it showed what was possible considering Heath had never came that close in any caption before. I’m sure things could and probably will look very different from McKinney at Area.

[E1.]

6 minutes ago, SharksAreCool said:

@E1.  @BandDad11, y’all are making some great points. Here’s the thing about all this though (feel free to disagree). The results at McKinney don’t really matter. From my prospective it doesn’t really matter what happened at past contests considering both shows at that point were not finished. Now I know y’all are both from Rockwall Heath so here’s my opinion. They could definitely make state, they’ve just got to clean up their show and look ahead, not behind.

McKinney used the new judging system so its a little relevant, and prosper music and visuals scores also help compare. I know it's not an accurate way to show how they're doing now, but if you compare them then and the rate of growth, it's a helpful way to compare both schools

[Tbcord140]

In my thought, I think if Sachse gets their little bitty things cleaned, it's going to easily look like a Rockwall/Heath battle for that final spot... but right now, give me Sachse at 3, Heath at the 4.

[E1.]

1 minute ago, Tbcord140 said:

In my thought, I think if Sachse gets their little bitty things cleaned, it's going to easily look like a Rockwall/Heath battle for that final spot... but right now, give me Sachse at 3, Heath at the 4.

You had Heath at 6th at the beginning of the week with berkner above them. What made you bump them up?

[Tbcord140]

1 minute ago, E1. said:

You had Heath at 6th at the beginning of the week with berkner above them. What made you bump them up?

I feel like Heath's WW/Perc easily outscores Rockwall, and Rockwall gets a close edge in Brass, with visuals not looking close. Right now, I think Heath is too good not to be 4th, maybe beats Sachse off for 3rd, while very unlikely, still in a way achieveble.

Berkner kind of had me a bit riled up over at Bedford, but I don't think they'll be operating at the same level as Heath come Finals time.

 

[E1.]

5 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

I feel like Heath's WW/Perc easily outscores Rockwall, and Rockwall gets a close edge in Brass, with visuals not looking close. Right now, I think Heath is too good not to be 4th, maybe beats Sachse off for 3rd, while very unlikely, still in a way achieveble.

Berkner kind of had me a bit riled up over at Bedford, but I don't think they'll be operating at the same level as Heath come Finals time.

 

I agree Rockwall looks better visually, but if they keep adding more choreo like they did last Saturday they aren't going to look clean come Area. I think Heath has a good shot at the percussion caption and if they don't take it they'll be pretty close

[Tbcord140]

19 minutes ago, E1. said:

I agree Rockwall looks better visually, but if they keep adding more choreo like they did last Saturday they aren't going to look clean come Area. I think Heath has a good shot at the percussion caption and if they don't take it they'll be pretty close

Heath is 3rd in Perc (imo), behind Sachse (2nd) and Forney.

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Ahhhh, good forum times now!  One day closer to letting the bands settle it on field! Here’s hoping for a good week of prep for All Bands! Some good rest too and no super long roadtrips for football the night before!

[E1.]

32 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

Heath is 3rd in Perc (imo), behind Sachse (2nd) and Forney.

You don't think Waxahachie has a chance at top 3 percussion?

[loltpt]

My predictions:

1. Waxahachie

2. Forney

3. Sachse

4. Rockwall

5. Lake Highlands

6. Duncanville

7. Rockwall Heath

8. Berkner

9. JJ Pearce

10. Richardson

 

[E1.]

3 minutes ago, loltpt said:

My predictions:

1. Waxahachie

2. Forney

3. Sachse

4. Rockwall

5. Lake Highlands

6. Duncanville

7. Rockwall Heath

8. Berkner

9. JJ Pearce

10. Richardson

 

Heath 7th BELOW Duncanville is wild

[BandDad11]

My predictions in alphabetical order:
 

1. Berkner
2. Duncanville
3. Forney
4. Garland
5. Irving
6. JJ Pearce
7. John Horn
8. Lake Highlands
9. MacArthur
10. Mesquite
11. Nimitz
12. North Forney
13. North Garland
14. Richardson
15. Rockwall
16. Rockwall Heath
17. Rowlett
18. Royse City
19. Sachse
20. Skyline
21. Tyler Legacy
22. Waxahachie

I'll unscramble later

[SharksAreCool]

Okay. Final predictions for this Area and all my state qualifiers. This is definitely gonna be a hot take, but remember my opinion doesn’t matter.

 

1. Wax

2. Rockwall/Forney

3. Forney/Rockwall

4. Sachse/Heath

5. Heath/Sachse

6. Lake Highlands 

7. Berkner

8. Duncanville (Does not feel right)

9. North Forney 

10. JJ/Royce City