UIL 6A Area C 2025

[JFNDOWBFAN]

11 hours ago, Tbcord140 said:

Everybody from last year got replaced. I think looking at this panel, I think Forney out of all of the big state dudes gets rewarded more.

It’s been a year…and my brain is a little foggy but if I recall correctly….last year area was postponed due to rain threat that never materialized and when it was moved to a week day, they had to bring in a whole new judging panel. Mostly made up of retired judges verse judges on the current beat. Doesn’t really mean it changed outcome at all. Don’t think any would argue over the 4 bands that advanced. How, in your estimation, does this panel favor Forney?

[DallasFan]

3 minutes ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

It’s been a year…and my brain is a little foggy but if I recall correctly….last year area was postponed due to rain threat that never materialized and when it was moved to a week day, they had to bring in a whole new judging panel. Mostly made up of retired judges verse judges on the current beat. Doesn’t really mean it changed outcome at all. Don’t think any would argue over the 4 bands that advanced. How, in your estimation, does this panel favor Forney?

They only replaced 1 judge due to the date change

[LockedIn]

Richardson (Finally) has both region and Duncanville this week, its been 2 weeks since they've had any scored performances, so honestly I have no clue how they're doing in comparison to the other schools, they also got their full show on the field last week. They finally got their dragon prop (half of it, the other half comes tomorrow apparently) and should be using it for at least Duncanville, idk about region though. As for Pearce, they have a game against Richardson this week and also UIL, I've heard they're doing good too. 

[Tbcord140]

A few things:
Top 4 is a lock, yes a bad run could easily get you ran off the top 4.

- Rockwall-Heath drops to #6
- Berkner moves up to #5
- Duncanville fights North Garland for 9th if they have a good run
- Forney/Sachse are the frontrunners for the Percussion caption.
 

[SaltySynth]

3 hours ago, yes8239429847923 said:

Richardson (Finally) has both region and Duncanville this week, its been 2 weeks since they've had any scored performances, so honestly I have no clue how they're doing in comparison to the other schools, they also got their full show on the field last week. They finally got their dragon prop (half of it, the other half comes tomorrow apparently) and should be using it for at least Duncanville, idk about region though. As for Pearce, they have a game against Richardson this week and also UIL, I've heard they're doing good too. 

I was just thinking about that. It looks to me like all the Richardson schools only do 2 or 3 contest. I'm seeing other schools going to 5 contest before Area which is insane. You get so much more information and just performance time. Does anyone know why Richardson schools do that? It seams like they are throwing away valuable information that could easily bump Berkner or LH into a top 4 finish.

[SaltySynth]

Also there are only 24 bands that are in this area correct? That doesn't mean all 24 will make it and there is no chance of there being 5 slots for state. There is a decent chance that we only have 3 slots however though right?

Does any of that logic make since?

[BandDad11]

57 minutes ago, SaltySynth said:

Also there are only 24 bands that are in this area correct? That doesn't mean all 24 will make it and there is no chance of there being 5 slots for state. There is a decent chance that we only have 3 slots however though right?

Does any of that logic make since?

Sounds about right, although I’m sure at least 20 will receive a 1st division rating

[BandDad11]

1 hour ago, Tbcord140 said:

A few things:
Top 4 is a lock, yes a bad run could easily get you ran off the top 4.

- Rockwall-Heath drops to #6
- Berkner moves up to #5
- Duncanville fights North Garland for 9th if they have a good run
- Forney/Sachse are the frontrunners for the Percussion caption.
 

Explanation for each?

[SharksAreCool]

1 hour ago, SaltySynth said:

Also there are only 24 bands that are in this area correct? That doesn't mean all 24 will make it and there is no chance of there being 5 slots for state. There is a decent chance that we only have 3 slots however though right?

Does any of that logic make since?

That’s the rough thing about this area. If there were just one more band and every band got a 1, they’d send five to state.

[Tbcord140]

25 minutes ago, BandDad11 said:

Explanation for each?

Absoluetly.
Berkner moves up to 5, even while Rockwall-Heath did okay for going FIRST at Prosper, that 73.0 doesn't do much justice for Berkner and even Sachse at Bedford the week before with not so fantastic performance times.

Duncanville is having a pretty bad fall as of current, and I either have them struggling with North Garland, whos on a insanely good trajectory from last year, hopefully pointing their way into Area Finals.

I feel like we all know that Forney's percussion this year is pretty good, but looking at Birdville's results, with Sachse being just an incredibly small bit behind Keller (a top 15 group btw), and not much behind Byron Nelson in percussion, I think it should be hotly contested for that percussion caption.

[E1.]

17 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

Absoluetly.
Berkner moves up to 5, even while Rockwall-Heath did okay for going FIRST at Prosper, that 73.0 doesn't do much justice for Berkner and even Sachse at Bedford the week before with not so fantastic performance times.

Duncanville is having a pretty bad fall as of current, and I either have them struggling with North Garland, whos on a insanely good trajectory from last year, hopefully pointing their way into Area Finals.

I feel like we all know that Forney's percussion this year is pretty good, but looking at Birdville's results, with Sachse being just an incredibly small bit behind Keller (a top 15 group btw), and not much behind Byron Nelson in percussion, I think it should be hotly contested for that percussion caption.

It was Heaths 2nd time performing the full show. They had 2 tears, and I heard from some of their members that a lot of them didn't feel good about the run at all. So I don't think their score really did them much justice. As for the percussion caption I don't think Sachses in contention for it. Their book is on a much easier level than Forneys so I give a big edge to Forney on that. I think this will be much easier to predict after region and seeing how all the bands are doing from there. Also heath doing "okay for going first" is a crazy take. They beat some great bands (walnut grove, reedy, little elm, mckinney north) and were less than 3 points from finals. I'd say for it being their first time at the competition and going first they did pretty exceptional

[RandomGuardPerson]

2 hours ago, SaltySynth said:

I was just thinking about that. It looks to me like all the Richardson schools only do 2 or 3 contest. I'm seeing other schools going to 5 contest before Area which is insane. You get so much more information and just performance time. Does anyone know why Richardson schools do that? It seams like they are throwing away valuable information that could easily bump Berkner or LH into a top 4 finish.

Unsure, we've just always done it that way. I don't know if there's a specific reason, but it could just be scheduling conflicts

[JFNDOWBFAN]

Right now, my gut is saying any band that finishes prelims in the top 6 has a state shot. 7-12 would take an incredible finals run. 

[Tbcord140]

6 minutes ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

Right now, my gut is saying any band that finishes prelims in the top 6 has a state shot. 7-12 would take an incredible finals run. 

berkner/lh/heath???

[Tbcord140]

2 hours ago, E1. said:

It was Heaths 2nd time performing the full show. They had 2 tears, and I heard from some of their members that a lot of them didn't feel good about the run at all. So I don't think their score really did them much justice. As for the percussion caption I don't think Sachses in contention for it. Their book is on a much easier level than Forneys so I give a big edge to Forney on that. I think this will be much easier to predict after region and seeing how all the bands are doing from there. Also heath doing "okay for going first" is a crazy take. They beat some great bands (walnut grove, reedy, little elm, mckinney north) and were less than 3 points from finals. I'd say for it being their first time at the competition and going first they did pretty exceptional

ANOTHER thing hurting heath's state hopes. so region, a game, and then area. Come Area time, they will be getting set to do their FIFTH ever run of their show, compared to others who have had their shows weeks before. Yes, they will be cleaning, but so is every other band in these two weeks. I also have Berkner ahead of them even though different judging panels, there shouldn't be much reason why Heath had about the same score as Berkner. I think that 5 spot alternates a lot between prelims and finals.

Forney does have a harder book than Sachse, but I believe it's all about execution and balance at the end of the day.

[BandDad11]

6 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

ANOTHER thing hurting heath's state hopes. so region, a game, and then area. Come Area time, they will be getting set to do their FIFTH ever run of their show, compared to others who have had their shows weeks before. Yes, they will be cleaning, but so is every other band in these two weeks. I also have Berkner ahead of them even though different judging panels, there shouldn't be much reason why Heath had about the same score as Berkner. I think that 5 spot alternates a lot between prelims and finals.

Forney does have a harder book than Sachse, but I believe it's all about execution and balance at the end of the day.

Actually since they have two games it should be their 6-7th performance (prelims and finals) so not quite as bad, Heath just tends to add their show to the field slower but initially cleaner whereas bands like Sachse throw it all on the field early on and take longer to clean it. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how everything unfolds, you never know what could happen 🤷‍♂️

[E1.]

2 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

ANOTHER thing hurting heath's state hopes. so region, a game, and then area. Come Area time, they will be getting set to do their FIFTH ever run of their show, compared to others who have had their shows weeks before. Yes, they will be cleaning, but so is every other band in these two weeks. I also have Berkner ahead of them even though different judging panels, there shouldn't be much reason why Heath had about the same score as Berkner. I think that 5 spot alternates a lot between prelims and finals.

Forney does have a harder book than Sachse, but I believe it's all about execution and balance at the end of the day.

I'm not sure about weeks before considering Rockwall also didn't have their full show by McKinney but I see your point. Also it's 2 games so 6th performance but again I see your point. I don't think berkner will be much competition considering how close they've been to rockwall scoring wise all season, Sachse lacks musicality and I think that's where heath could beat them so I really do think it'll be between them and Sachse. And in regards to the percussion caption, anyone that is really invested in this realizes that harder music with great execution scores higher. No matter how good Sachses percussion plays, it's considerably easier and Forney is arguably performing at a higher level than they are. But again these are all predictions and none of us really know what will happen

[Tbcord140]

1 minute ago, E1. said:

I'm not sure about weeks before considering Rockwall also didn't have their full show by McKinney but I see your point. Also it's 2 games so 6th performance but again I see your point. I don't think berkner will be much competition considering how close they've been to rockwall scoring wise all season, Sachse lacks musicality and I think that's where heath could beat them so I really do think it'll be between them and Sachse. And in regards to the percussion caption, anyone that is really invested in this realizes that harder music with great execution scores higher. No matter how good Sachses percussion plays, it's considerably easier and Forney is arguably performing at a higher level than they are. But again these are all predictions and none of us really know what will happen

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

[Tbcord140]

3 minutes ago, E1. said:

I'm not sure about weeks before considering Rockwall also didn't have their full show by McKinney but I see your point. Also it's 2 games so 6th performance but again I see your point. I don't think berkner will be much competition considering how close they've been to rockwall scoring wise all season, Sachse lacks musicality and I think that's where heath could beat them so I really do think it'll be between them and Sachse. And in regards to the percussion caption, anyone that is really invested in this realizes that harder music with great execution scores higher. No matter how good Sachses percussion plays, it's considerably easier and Forney is arguably performing at a higher level than they are. But again these are all predictions and none of us really know what will happen

I know Berkner isn't much comp for that 4 slot, I feel like Sachse's music isn't well, very entertaining to the ears, but just does enough on the scoresheet for the judges compared to Rockwall-Heath where the excitement factor IS there, we'd just need to see how it does on the sheets.

[JFNDOWBFAN]

30 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

berkner/lh/heath???

At the moment, I think Rockwall, Wax, Forney, and Sachse are bubbling to top 4. 
 

5-6 could be 2 Richardson schools or 1 And Heath. Or one of those 3 and a D-ville….I mean, I wouldn’t put it past something clicking

[Tbcord140]

17 minutes ago, JFNDOWBFAN said:

At the moment, I think Rockwall, Wax, Forney, and Sachse are bubbling to top 4. 
 

5-6 could be 2 Richardson schools or 1 And Heath. Or one of those 3 and a D-ville….I mean, I wouldn’t put it past something clicking

i think d-ville would be LUCKY to be at any spot past 8th.

[E1.]

24 minutes ago, Tbcord140 said:

i think d-ville would be LUCKY to be at any spot past 8th.

Duncanvilles fall off is genuinely sad. I hope this doesn't push the district to move them to a show band 😕

[Tbcord140]

10 minutes ago, E1. said:

Duncanvilles fall off is genuinely sad. I hope this doesn't push the district to move them to a show band 😕

This sucks, but, this might probably be the final shot for them either this year or the next to hopefully not become a show band like Desoto.

[SharksAreCool]

I know there’s been a lot of talk about who’s taking percussion, and it’s mainly about Forney and Sachse. But does anyone know about Rockwall and Wax’s percussion compare? I know Rockwall had a good showing of percussion at McKinney (I think) but what about Wax?

[Tbcord140]

2 minutes ago, SharksAreCool said:

I know there’s been a lot of talk about who’s taking percussion, and it’s mainly about Forney and Sachse. But does anyone know about Rockwall and Wax’s percussion compare? I know Rockwall had a good showing of percussion at McKinney (I think) but what about Wax?

I have genuinely no idea. My guess has Wax over Rockwall, and maybe over Sachse.