UIL 5A Area B 2025

[cheesecurd21]

3 minutes ago, astra593 said:

Did anyone get a chance to go to the wakeland parent preview?

Im wondering the same thing

[123Tuba]

Frisco centennial but if they were penstriped

[123Tuba]

9 hours ago, 123Tuba said:

Frisco centennial but if they were penstriped

 

[UltimatePooleGlazer]

2 hours ago, 123Tuba said:

 

I didn't know they used to be a state finalist program, maybe they can make a come back and make area finals this year.

[cheesecurd21]

16 minutes ago, UltimatePooleGlazer said:

I didn't know they used to be a state finalist program, maybe they can make a come back and make area finals this year.

They definitely could. It was surprising to see them drop so much last year

[DumbBandLoser]

I won't rule out a Cen10 comeback as impossible, but I don't think it's likely. Cen10 was state finalist and powerhouse, but that was before LT was built and the talent was split. 

[TrenBS]

5 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

They definitely could. It was surprising to see them drop so much last year

Prelims results, in particular music, were pretty jank, I agreed with Centennials visual scores but musically they got really low scores compared to what I was seeing. Finals felt very appropriate but prelims scoring was very inconsistent and I hope these new sheets alleviate some of these errors that were less on the judges themselves and more with how broad and frankly terrible the old sheets were

[cheesecurd21]

5 minutes ago, TrenBS said:

Prelims results, in particular music, were pretty jank, I agreed with Centennials visual scores but musically they got really low scores compared to what I was seeing. Finals felt very appropriate but prelims scoring was very inconsistent and I hope these new sheets alleviate some of these errors that were less on the judges themselves and more with how broad and frankly terrible the old sheets were

100% agree. Centennial, Colony, Emerson, even Indy... seriously wack scores in prelims. Finals could be anybody this year, and even the top 4 could have a real mixup. Does anyone have new predictions after some more shows have had public previews and such?

[TrenBS]

Just now, cheesecurd21 said:

100% agree. Centennial, Colony, Emerson, even Indy... seriously wack scores in prelims. Finals could be anybody this year, and even the top 4 could have a real mixup. Does anyone have new predictions after some more shows have had public previews and such?

And Argyle getting NINTH and SEVENTH in visual? The program that beat North, Burleson Cen10, Friendswood and Roma losing to North OVERWHELMINGLY along with losing to Heritage, Walnut, Memorial, and The Colony who didnt even make area finals? No offense to these bands at all, as again this is a problem of the sheets and was a lot better at finals where there were less bands to have to rank

But I think the Frisco schools in general will benefit from the new sheets particularly in the woodwinds, and for the top 3 Frisco schools brass as well, Argyle visually will improve and North will have to show they can keep up their recent success

[cheesecurd21]

I may or may not be wrong, but are the sheets now granting more weight on GE/content and guard?

[TrenBS]

21 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

I may or may not be wrong, but are the sheets now granting more weight on GE/content and guard?

The sheets are now woodwind, brass, percussion, visual individual, and visual ensemble. The visual sheets place more emphasis on the guard now with the changes allowing for more focus on different parts of the program, and the music sheets being split up now has a significantly higher quality sheet. Now for example, instead of judging all of the content and cleanliness of every section, the woodwind judge, for example, only needs to focus on the woodwinds cleanliness, content, and achievement individually, ensemble wise, and how its incorporated into every other part of the show.

These are still a very much achievement first type of sheets, which for UIL I think should absolutely be a priority, as I dont think that groups should be able to "out design" another program while performing worse objectively to the judge. But with that being said, these new sheets do place a heavier importance on the actual content and the guard now that the amount of aspects each individual judge has to grade has been refined and in general lowered, its now more akin to the non-GE captions at BOA competitions, where the content is heavily considered in the judging, but not nearly as much as the achievement of the performers themselves, which again is ideal.

To put it simply, music judges now can properly grade the content along with the achievement as opposed to having to go pretty much exclusively achievement based with content creating vague bubbles, and visual judges are encouraged in the sheets to look at physical form and communicating of presence and style which is very much a guard oriented criteria

[cheesecurd21]

Did anybody get a chance to see Wakeland yesterday?

[glyde]

MY TAKES ON THIS AREA (Very detailed):

I do think Lone Star and Wakeland will be at each others necks for first. Lone Star typically peaks in prelims then Wakeland comes for Area champ in finals. Lone Star preview was a crazy experience. Their sound is still powerfull especially in the brass. But Wakeland has better woodwinds in my opinion

But I also belive Lebanon Trail is coming for a state spot. After making one away and North kids were cheering their hearts out which I believe was a disrespectful act they did unknowingly, I know they want their state spot back. Their show last year was amazing in all aspects. The props and unis were cool as well as the music and visual.

As for North, thier show theme "Celistal Nights" seems boring and will probably be another jazz show. I understand that they have poor funding but having the same jazz show for three years does get to a point with the same props and unis. It feels like "cheating" to use the same show skeleton

Walnut Grove for sure has a chance at State. Last year was a great show including their overall sound and that one lead trumpet throwing G's around. I am not on board with the show reveal so far but I cant wait to see them perform.

Argyle has a cool greek mythology theme called "Elysium Fields" this year and think they will do better than last year. 8th at State and 23rd at GN was not what was expected result for them. They have big shows to fill because they used to be 4A kings.

As for Reedy/Colony/Emerson/Heritage/Memorial/Liberty/Independece (All Frisco ISD), they all are competing with their sister schools for a finals seat and possibly state. I personally root for Emerson as their show did not make finals even though it was amazing visually. Liberty suprised me as they made finals. their show was good musically but the theme and visual kinda didnt sit well with me. Heritage has to drop the train and step up the game. They have shown that they have potential to do great things. Independece also has room to improve but they sound great!

Anna/Melissa, I know Anna medaled at state as a 4A but they havent caught up to 5A standards, same for Melissa. But I heard Melissa recently got the head director from Keller Centeral(6A) and are preparing a show, "Growing Forward"  which is about their history I believe. I personally root for Melissa as they always have good themes and music. Anna has a show called "As Seen on TV" which could do well if executed great. But they were a solid 4A program.

Lovejoy/Denton etc. i do not know as much for these programs but still wish them a great season.

I will provide my personal predictions once contest begins and I have seen the shows but for now I belive that:

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LoneStar/Wakeland - 1st/2nd

Argyle/LT - 3rd/4th

MN/Reedy - 5th/6th

(rest is too early to predict but will add soon)

 

[cheesecurd21]

5 minutes ago, nahu said:

MY TAKES ON THIS AREA (Very detailed):

I do think lone star and wakeland will be at each others necks for first. Lone Star typically peaks in prelims then Wakeland comes for Area champ in finals. LoneStar preview was crazy experience. Their sound is still powerfull especially in the brass. But Wakeland has better woodwinds in my opinion

But I also belive LT is coming for a state spot. After making one away and North kids were cheering their hearts out, I know they want their state spot back. Their show last year was amazing in all aspects. The props and unis were cool as well as the music and visual.

As for North, thier show theme "Celistal Nights" seems boring and will probably be another jazz show. I understand that they have poor funding but having the same jazz show for three years does get to a point with the same props and unis. It feels like "cheating" to use the same show skeleton

Walnut Grove for sure has a chance at State. Last year was a great show including their overall sound and that one lead trumpet throwing G's around. I am not on board with the show reveal so far but I cant wait to see them perform.

Argyle has a cool greek mythology theme this year and think they will do better than last year. 8th at State and 23rd at GN was not what was expected result for them. They have big shows to fill because they used to be 4A kings.

As for Reedy/Colony/Emerson/Heritage/Memorial/Liberty/Independece (All Frisco ISD), they all are competing with their sister schools for a finals seat and possibly state. I personally root for Emerson as their show did not make finals even though it was amazing visually. Liberty suprised me as they made finals. their show was good musically but the theme and visual kinda didnt sit well with me. Heritage has to drop the train and step up the game. They have shown that they have potential to do great things. Independece also has room to improve but they sound great!

Anna/Melissa, I know Anna medaled at state as a 4A but they havent caught up to 5A standards, same for Melissa. But I heard Melissa recently got the head director from Keller Centeral(6A) and are preparing a show to surpass expectations. I personally root for Melissa as they have good themes and music. Anna has a show about TV's which could do well if executed great. 

Lovejoy/Denton etc. i do not know as much for these programs but still wish them a great season.

I will provide my personal predictions once contest begins and I have seen the shows but for now I belive that

LoneStar/Wakeland - 1st/2nd

Argyle/LT - 3rd/4th

MN/Reedy - 5th/6th

(rest is too early to predict but will add soon)

I agree so much, especially with the take about the extra frisco schools. I think Reedy Colony and Emerson will have great years (especially with the new judge system) and North could fall behind since they keep using the exact same design. (also I've heard some extra clips of the Walnut show and the lead trumpet IS throwing around more g's, he's insane)

to finish yours in my opinion I would have:

7. Emerson

8. Colony

9. Memorial

10. Liberty (unless Heritage drops the train, they could maybe take 10th.)

Reedy could also fall to 7th or 8th but I think they're in the upper half still.

[glyde]

2 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

I agree so much, especially with the take about the extra frisco schools. I think Reedy Colony and Emerson will have great years (especially with the new judge system) and North could fall behind since they keep using the exact same design. (also I've heard some extra clips of the Walnut show and the lead trumpet IS throwing around more g's, he's insane)

to finish yours in my opinion I would have:

7. Emerson

8. Colony

9. Memorial

10. Liberty (unless Heritage drops the train, they could maybe take 10th.)

Reedy could also fall to 7th or 8th but I think they're in the upper half still.

This is a valid ranking, although for memorial I have not really been a fan of their shows as they seem to have generic themes that are too flat to make dynamic but it is still possible for them to go places. I would swap Memorial with either Melissa or Heritage(if they drop that darn train)

[cheesecurd21]

4 minutes ago, glyde said:

This is a valid ranking, although for memorial I have not really been a fan of their shows as they seem to have generic themes that are too flat to make dynamic but it is still possible for them to go places. I would swap Memorial with either Melissa or Heritage(if they drop that darn train)

I dont really like Memorials shows either however they always seem to score well

[glyde]

1 hour ago, cheesecurd21 said:

I dont really like Memorials shows either however they always seem to score well

prelims judiging was horrible last year. No one agreed on anything. Emerson not making finals but Heritage did was wrong. Hopefully they turn around this year. Liberty did not deserve that high either last year. My dark horses should do well this year hopefully.

[SharksAreCool]

1 hour ago, glyde said:

MY TAKES ON THIS AREA (Very detailed):

I do think Lone Star and Wakeland will be at each others necks for first. Lone Star typically peaks in prelims then Wakeland comes for Area champ in finals. Lone Star preview was a crazy experience. Their sound is still powerfull especially in the brass. But Wakeland has better woodwinds in my opinion

But I also belive Lebanon Trail is coming for a state spot. After making one away and North kids were cheering their hearts out which I believe was a disrespectful act they did unknowingly, I know they want their state spot back. Their show last year was amazing in all aspects. The props and unis were cool as well as the music and visual.

As for North, thier show theme "Celistal Nights" seems boring and will probably be another jazz show. I understand that they have poor funding but having the same jazz show for three years does get to a point with the same props and unis. It feels like "cheating" to use the same show skeleton

Walnut Grove for sure has a chance at State. Last year was a great show including their overall sound and that one lead trumpet throwing G's around. I am not on board with the show reveal so far but I cant wait to see them perform.

Argyle has a cool greek mythology theme called "Elysium Fields" this year and think they will do better than last year. 8th at State and 23rd at GN was not what was expected result for them. They have big shows to fill because they used to be 4A kings.

As for Reedy/Colony/Emerson/Heritage/Memorial/Liberty/Independece (All Frisco ISD), they all are competing with their sister schools for a finals seat and possibly state. I personally root for Emerson as their show did not make finals even though it was amazing visually. Liberty suprised me as they made finals. their show was good musically but the theme and visual kinda didnt sit well with me. Heritage has to drop the train and step up the game. They have shown that they have potential to do great things. Independece also has room to improve but they sound great!

Anna/Melissa, I know Anna medaled at state as a 4A but they havent caught up to 5A standards, same for Melissa. But I heard Melissa recently got the head director from Keller Centeral(6A) and are preparing a show, "Growing Forward"  which is about their history I believe. I personally root for Melissa as they always have good themes and music. Anna has a show called "As Seen on TV" which could do well if executed great. But they were a solid 4A program.

Lovejoy/Denton etc. i do not know as much for these programs but still wish them a great season.

I will provide my personal predictions once contest begins and I have seen the shows but for now I belive that:

--------------------------------------------------

LoneStar/Wakeland - 1st/2nd

Argyle/LT - 3rd/4th

MN/Reedy - 5th/6th

(rest is too early to predict but will add soon)

 

Probably the most organized post I’ve ever seen on this platform.

[cheesecurd21]

47 minutes ago, glyde said:

prelims judiging was horrible last year. No one agreed on anything. Emerson not making finals but Heritage did was wrong. Hopefully they turn around this year. Liberty did not deserve that high either last year. My dark horses should do well this year hopefully.

So glad to see other people think the same way I do. Emerson and Colony got robbed and while Heritage and Liberty making finals wasn't completely "undeserved", I don't think they were right at all

[OGFISD99]

2 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

So glad to see other people think the same way I do. Emerson and Colony got robbed and while Heritage and Liberty making finals wasn't completely "undeserved", I don't think they were right at all

Emerson was definitely dissed.... From what I know their show is going to be really good... 

[cheesecurd21]

15 minutes ago, OGFISD99 said:

Emerson was definitely dissed.... From what I know their show is going to be really good... 

I've heard some leaks this year and they've all said there's some really good stuff. Super excited to actually see what they have planned this year

[OGFISD99]

34 minutes ago, cheesecurd21 said:

I've heard some leaks this year and they've all said there's some really good stuff. Super excited to actually see what they have planned this year

I work with parent who's child is in that band and they sound amazing... 

[cheesecurd21]

21 minutes ago, OGFISD99 said:

I work with parent who's child is in that band and they sound amazing... 

Do you know anything about the soloists? People keep saying they're really good but I haven't gotten any info on it

[OGFISD99]

16 hours ago, cheesecurd21 said:

Do you know anything about the soloists? People keep saying they're really good but I haven't gotten any info on it

They are good.... Just from what I saw.. 

[opiniondropper25]

19 hours ago, cheesecurd21 said:

I dont really like Memorials shows either however they always seem to score well

maybe not this year... memorial lost their director to reedy