UIL Area B 2022

[bancl]

On 10/6/2022 at 9:29 AM, bancl said:

It's still early, but here is a shot at this one.

 

1 - 2

Coppell & Keller

These two are interchangeable for 1st and 2nd.  No surprises here.  I do think that the gap between them and everyone else is wider than it ever has been.  These two are locks to advance, and quite frankly locks to make State Finals.

2-5

Southlake Carroll, Waxahachie, Timber Creek

The three other advancers from the last go-around are only getting better.  Waxahachie has a new design team, and still sounds amazing as always.  Timber Creek had a good showing at HEB, and despite not having the difficulty level of Coppell or Keller moves and plays well.  Carroll is headed to GN this year, and as the other returning state finalist is an advancer until they prove they aren't.

6-7

Haltom/LD Bell

Haltom sounds much improved over last year!  They have a challenging show that if they can grow into it will be competitive.  LD Bell once again has a great design and wonderful percussion.  It will depend on if their winds can match the excellence of the groups above them.

 

 

It's Area Week!  Here are my revised predictions:

1 - 2

Coppell & Keller

No changes here.  Coppell followed up HEB with a strong showing at the DFW regional.  Personally I think that their show isn't quite as strong as their presentation last year, but it's hard to follow up that amazing show!  They have exceptional soloists, and the flow of their program works really well.  They are incredible performers and will end up as one of the final 12 at UIL State again this year without question!

Keller showed up to Duncanville and gave a Wakeland group having one of the best seasons in the state all it could handle, with an overall tie in prelims and a tie in music in finals.  There were a lot of doubters after their early season issues, but Keller is doing what Keller does: cleaning, making changes, peaking late, and flat out playing as well as anyone in the state.  Their visual program has made huge strides since early season as well.

Both of these programs are like two heavyweight fighters who in their own ways took a bit to find their footing in the opening rounds and are now hitting their stride.  Expect they will both come out swinging.

 

2-5

Waxahachie, Timber Creek, LD Bell

Waxahachie once again has a great playing group that moves really well with fantastic soloists.  Their product may be slightly below the demand level of the first two, but you almost don't care because they are amazingly clean and perform with a sense of professionalism and elegance that they have become known for.  They are an easy lock to advance to state.

Timber Creek had their whole show on the field in mid-September, and has done nothing but clean since then.  Again, the demand in their show (especially visually) is not at the top level, but the excellence and musicianship they show should put them solidly in the advancing group.

LD Bell has a really well designed show that they are performing well, which helped them finish ahead of some groups they haven't been ahead of in a while.  They don't have the level of demand or musical depth that the top two have, but by no means is their product weak.  In fact, they perform at a level that may be stronger than their depth due to great design, great teaching, and great efforts of the members.  Look for them to make it back to state!

6-?

Southlake Carroll, Haltom, Lake Ridge, Duncanville, Keller Central, Lake Highlands

This last spot could go to ANYONE! 

SCL is a returning 6A finalist, but isn't having the year they did last year.  They haven't competed in a couple of weeks, so we'll see if they have been able to clean enough to get credit on UIL sheets.  

Haltom plays exceptionally well, and has a show that is one of their better designs in recent years.  

Lake Ridge had a nice showing at DMI this past weekend and with the right run can work their way up.

Duncanville has a much better show design than the past few years, and could find itself right in the mix.

Lake Highlands is on the rise, and made finals at area last year.

Keller Central has a cool show and was a finalist at the N Texas BOA Regional.  They are always a finalist in Area B, and should be again.  

 

 

[tamago1]

Along with Lake Highlands, some great stuff has been going on at JJ Pearce this year, really loving how great theyve been sounding and looking this year. Dark horse for finals tbh

[LostChoirGuy]

I loved JJ Pearce's show a few years ago when they made finals at Waco.  I haven't seen what they have this year, but I know I was disappointed by their placement at the BOA contest they attended.  Of course, they are a very strong concert band, so it could translate to more success in UIL.

[tamago1]

4 hours ago, LostChoirGuy said:

I loved JJ Pearce's show a few years ago when they made finals at Waco.  I haven't seen what they have this year, but I know I was disappointed by their placement at the BOA contest they attended.  Of course, they are a very strong concert band, so it could translate to more success in UIL.

They were less than 2 points out of finals and they were 4 out. Really solid appearance considering how stacked that contest was

[VinoGirl]

On 10/24/2022 at 10:51 AM, pancake said:

6A Area Adjudicators: Bill Centera, Ryan Johnstone, Larry Matysiak, Joni Perez, Charlotte Royall

I think someone else asked this earlier: How do we see who is judging Area contests? 

[SCVanguard]

Bill Centera is out, Robert Selaiden is in.

[BandFan59]

Final Predictions

1. Coppell
2. Keller
3. Waxahachie
4. LD Bell
5. Timber Creek
6. Lake Ridge
7. Southlake Carroll
8. Duncanville
9. Haltom
10. Keller Central
11. Highland Park
12. Lake Highlands

I see Coppell and Keller as locks for state, with Waxahachie close behind them. I would like to say LD Bell is a near lock for state, but given their unfortunate track record in recent years I'll not jinx them by saying they are. I think Timber Creek has looked solid again this year and Lake Ridge has been a pleasant surprise. SLC is a little slower this year than they were last year, so they're on the edge for me in qualifying for state as I think they'll be playing the long game for Grand Nationals. To be frank the bottom half of finals is wide open to a lot more bands that I have listed here, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a totally different bottom half than what I have down.

[Clarinet07]

Do you guys think that area is going to be rained out? Or is there a chance it could still be on Saturday?

[VinoGirl]

1 hour ago, Clarinet07 said:

Do you guys think that area is going to be rained out? Or is there a chance it could still be on Saturday?

From what I can see from the weather forecast, it looks like the rain will stop in the early morning on Saturday. Weather Channel says 24% chance of rain and a high of 64 degrees. 

[Trumpetmaster728]

In this contest do they change judges after the prelims placement?

[pancake]

1 hour ago, Trumpetmaster728 said:

In this contest do they change judges after the prelims placement?

most judges swap captions, but one music judge stays in music

[JWork]

Me and a friends personal predictions for this saturday, area has a reputation of being unpredictable but we’ll give it a shot. Also some biases ofc.

Area B

1 - Coppell - Always a powerhouse and a clear winner for this area, great this season and coming off of an incredible season last year.

2 - Keller - Musically pretty strong, visually not as much as coppell but keller always knows how to clean up around this time, easy second 

3 - Waxa - Haven’t seen much of them, they followed decently well behind keller at DMI in scores, I can see them taking a easy 3rd place here

4 - Timber Creek - Show design isn’t too difficult but they are clean and sound very solid, I can see them taking 4th behind waxa.

5 - LD Bell - Visually great design, then can also clean up well, musically they just aren’t as clean as TC but I can definitely see them taking back a state spot.

6/7 - DVille - Very solid show this year, sounds pretty great, haven’t been able to see how they are visually but I believe they can take back a state spot.

6/7 - SLC - They had rough beginnings early season but I believe they will clean up well in time for their GN performances, just depends on if they can clean up in time for area.

8/9 - KCent - Strong sounding, very much improved and I believe they will get some of the recognition they deserve

8/9 - Lake Ridge - haven’t seen them yet, but if what people say are true then they can definitely give some names a run for their money.

10/11/12 - Haltom, Lake Highlands, Highland Park

[peshbandkid]

Final predictions!

1. Coppell

2. Keller

3. Waxahachie

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4. L.D. Bell

5. Timber Creek 

6. Duncanville

7. Southlake Carroll

8. Lake Ridge

9. Keller Central

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10. Haltom

11. Highland Park

12. James Martin

[littlejaw]

Where will this contest take place?

[littlejaw]

Just now, littlejaw said:

Where will this contest take place?

Answering my own question, it’s at Pennington Field.

[Clarinet07]

Happy Area Eve!

[littlejaw]

With all of the rain today, overnight, and into the morning it looks like there may be a delayed start?

[Dallas Hobbs]

It looks like it’ll rain in the morning. How will the rain delays work? If finals gets cancelled does it take place on Monday or will the judges have to certify state qualifiers based on prelims scores?

[Raydurs]

1. Coppell (They have the upper hand with the harder show imo. Kept tabs on them for a while. It is very possible that Wax could beat them- purely on cleanliness)

2. Waxahachie (france show and really clean- would've probably beat keller at duncanville)

3. Keller (they're not the keller from years prior- i highly doubt they'll be visually clean but they have a high chance is having a great music run. imo their music was really mid during duncanville. no clue how they tied with wakeland there(haven't seen their run) but they'll be a state lock)

4. Timber Creek (like ive said before, the show is not very hard. it's a good show. the show is easy to clean. they've been consistently clean since the start. they will not miss.)

5. LD Stinkin Bell (this is a very wild card for me. bell will do FANTASTIC in marching. music on the other hand? very huge wild card for me. ive noticed their music has definitely gotten cleaner since stl and im not sure if m they're really driven towards area. but we will know saturday night or alternatively monday)

6/7: Duncanville (haven't seen this show. but this is all i keep hearing about. funny enough this show best describes every experience ive had with dart)

6/7: Southlake Carroll (im very nervous about how slc will do. they haven't had much luck so far despite having such a cool show and designed for nats. they may have cleaned heavily to get this show up and running to make state and nats finals or they could have done very little. slc is very up in the air and i would not be surprised if they miss or make it)

8. Lake Ridge (despite how clean they are, i think the uil judges may hold them back, but they could place much higher than i expect them to.)

9. Keller Central (i think they could be higher but not less than 9th. they have a good show. not sure on how much they've improved but i don't think they would be superbly clean by area)

10. Highland Park (idk its a band in dallas county so i wouldn't know)

11. Haltom (they're making finals. the show can get cleaned easily.)

12. Martin (cope. my sources are telling me they're gonna have a great shot in making finals. hopefully dfw ego boost lol)

[Person25]

13 minutes ago, Dallas Hobbs said:

It looks like it’ll rain in the morning. How will the rain delays work? If finals gets cancelled does it take place on Monday or will the judges have to certify state qualifies based on prelims scores?

They will just take the top 6 of prelims

[CosmicLimbo]

10 minutes ago, Raydurs said:

funny enough this show best describes every experience ive had with dart)

I can’t tell if this is a good thing or bad thing 😂

[averagebandnerd]

25 minutes ago, Raydurs said:

1. Coppell (They have the upper hand with the harder show imo. Kept tabs on them for a while. It is very possible that Wax could beat them- purely on cleanliness)

2. Waxahachie (france show and really clean- would've probably beat keller at duncanville)

3. Keller (they're not the keller from years prior- i highly doubt they'll be visually clean but they have a high chance is having a great music run. imo their music was really mid during duncanville. no clue how they tied with wakeland there(haven't seen their run) but they'll be a state lock)

4. Timber Creek (like ive said before, the show is not very hard. it's a good show. the show is easy to clean. they've been consistently clean since the start. they will not miss.)

5. LD Stinkin Bell (this is a very wild card for me. bell will do FANTASTIC in marching. music on the other hand? very huge wild card for me. ive noticed their music has definitely gotten cleaner since stl and im not sure if m they're really driven towards area. but we will know saturday night or alternatively monday)

6/7: Duncanville (haven't seen this show. but this is all i keep hearing about. funny enough this show best describes every experience ive had with dart)

6/7: Southlake Carroll (im very nervous about how slc will do. they haven't had much luck so far despite having such a cool show and designed for nats. they may have cleaned heavily to get this show up and running to make state and nats finals or they could have done very little. slc is very up in the air and i would not be surprised if they miss or make it)

8. Lake Ridge (despite how clean they are, i think the uil judges may hold them back, but they could place much higher than i expect them to.)

9. Keller Central (i think they could be higher but not less than 9th. they have a good show. not sure on how much they've improved but i don't think they would be superbly clean by area)

10. Highland Park (idk its a band in dallas county so i wouldn't know)

11. Haltom (they're making finals. the show can get cleaned easily.)

12. Martin (cope. my sources are telling me they're gonna have a great shot in making finals. hopefully dfw ego boost lol)

Wax did go to DMI and placed 3rd under Keller and Wakeland. From the videos I've seen Keller visual is MUCH improved!

[SCVanguard]

From the Area secretary:

All Area contests must be completed by MIDNIGHT.  If prelims gets pushed back and the finals can't be completed before that, they will take prelims results and call them finals results.

With the schedule as is, they cannot push back more than an hour or else they can't fit in all 12 finalist bands.

[BandDad4]

Does that mean the last band has to play before midnight or that announcement must be over by midnight?

[littlejaw]

59 minutes ago, SCVanguard said:

From the Area secretary:

All Area contests must be completed by MIDNIGHT.  If prelims gets pushed back and the finals can't be completed before that, they will take prelims results and call them finals results.

With the schedule as is, they cannot push back more than an hour or else they can't fit in all 12 finalist bands.

It looks like they could squeeze some time out of the break if they wanted. Some DCI shows have foregone the Intermission to get in before rain, which could also be an option.

How much rain or delay us to occur at the start of they day for the contest to be pushed back to Monday?