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Miamisburg gave probably the cleanest show they could give, if the multicam view was any indication. That might be enough to put them on the podium, if the judges are torn. The Woodlands, Carmel, and Avon all had a small number of drops. Carmel's show probably had the most exposed ones. The Woodlands' drops came during massive flurries of tosses. Overall, I thought all 4 were great. Avon's and Carmel's performances definitely stood out to me as generally having cleaner hand placements, cleaner lines with the body, better poise, better uniformity, and clearer staging than The Woodlands and Miamisburg, as much as I love those two shows.

Enormous crowd response again for both Avon and TWHS.

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Just now, katew1228 said:

Which is, I’m pretty sure, the first ever Scholastic world class medal for a Texas guard. 

Indeed it is!

Although Bowie 2016 still holds the score record. Very low scores at the top this year, but with the pandemic, that's to be expected.

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2 hours ago, Rubisco said:

Indeed it is!

Although Bowie 2016 still holds the score record. Very low scores at the top this year, but with the pandemic, that's to be expected.

it is the lowest scoring wgi scholastic world finals at the top since 1993. not that that should be very surprising, given the circumstances. there was a little prelims panel/semis panel split in GE in finals at the top, with the prelims panel being a bit stingy, in my opinion.

i adore that Bowie show. probably my pick for best scholastic show of the 2010s, if it's not Carmel 2018. criminally underscored. it's the closest thing to a work by Merce Cunningham i've seen in winter guard. an original in a sea of mostly sentimental imitations.

i'm thrilled for TWHS. most people don't know this, because why would they, they aren't following like i do, but this guard kind of skyrocketed into world class after Cyndi Robbins took over. some history: TWHS guard went from being world class and rock solid on the marching field in the early 00s, to distractingly weak on the marching field in 2008 and 2009, to being ok in 2010-2013. Robbins took over in 2014 and the improvements were immediately obvious. they went from not being able to make A class finals to getting promoted mid-season two seasons in a row. Robbins took them from A class to world class in one and a half winter guard seasons. never seen anything like it. it's nice to see them start to live up to that initial promise. with their feeder programs now more developed, i'm hopeful they can continue to improve.

at least *that* aspect of the marching show next year should be strong, if the band director transition isn't so smooth.

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Congratulations to all the guards on a fantastic season! A lot of pleasant surprises this year, given the circumstances.

For those interested, the WGI indoor percussion world championships start April 21st, with winds championships following shortly after. I don't follow those very closely (a little too much like marching band redux for me), but those who do are more than welcome to commandeer this thread!

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10 hours ago, packwick said:

 

i'm thrilled for TWHS. most people don't know this, because why would they, they aren't following like i do, but this guard kind of skyrocketed into world class after Cyndi Robbins took over. 

Do you know anything about her history? She has created the most successful Colorguard program in the entire state of Texas and I can’t seem to find anything about her. 

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On 4/10/2022 at 9:28 AM, Rubisco said:

Congratulations to all the guards on a fantastic season! A lot of pleasant surprises this year, given the circumstances.

curious what ur favorite show was and how u would have scored it. i actually didn't add anything to my permanent collection this year. may be a good time to stop keeping up w/ it.

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On 4/10/2022 at 1:35 PM, katew1228 said:

Do you know anything about her history? She has created the most successful Colorguard program in the entire state of Texas and I can’t seem to find anything about her. 

She was in the code black group that won the independent open back almost 20 years ago.  She’s been at TWHS since 2014/15 I think? Or somewhere around there.  a lot of the techs come from her connections and people she knew with code black 
 

 

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23 hours ago, Rubisco said:

Like, it's a fun show, and the audience loved it, but for me it was like watching what Halloween has been like every year since the release of The Dark Knight in 2008. Like, I've seen this before way too much. 

lmao. such a read, but an accurate one. it's definitely a low hanging fruit idea. but really hon, people without high IQs need something to love, too.

23 hours ago, Rubisco said:

I got goosebumps the first time I saw that -- not at all like the hammy, unintentionally campy ending to Bishop Kearney's Sybil show. ("Staaaahp! Staaaaaahp!!!" 😄)

oh see i loved that show precisely *because* it was campy and different and made me laugh and probably couldn't be done today without the outrage machine starting up. "oh hey let's do a show based on a ridiculous 70s TV show about a young woman with multiple personalities!" "yeah, brah, that sounds great!" hahahaha. i love it. but let's face it, if i got my way TWHS would be doing a marching show based on the movie Showgirls, and the cacophony from the parents would be glorious, just endless amusement.

but yeah, the Pollock show is prooobably Bishop's best one artistically speaking.

thanks for answering my question.

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advisory board proposals were posted over at WGI.

https://wgi.org/2022-advisory-board-proposals-now-online/

does anybody know which ones passed? has the meeting happened yet? some of the guard proposals are remarkably stupid lol. maybe that's typical. i like the ones that encourage upward movement through the classes. A class is overstuffed and has lots of groups executing open class skills. i also don't like that open class finalists perform in the morning to a smaller audience. that's not how you reward more advanced groups.

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I'm not sure how I would have felt if they had passed the proposal to reduce the judges to three and have all three judges judge every caption at once -- equipment, movement, design, and effect. :lol:

If you want to reduce the judges for cost reasons, roll the analytical aspects of design analysis into the effect caption. DA usually very strongly correlates with effect anyway, and is pretty much just a less passive, more technical, nitpicky version of it. The equivalent captions in BOA/DCI are ensemble visual performance and visual effect. Because ensemble visual takes into account the artistry of the show and isn't just about pure ensemble cleanliness, the line between it and effect is blurred and the two captions usually correlate well with each other.

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