treyj Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 And jbroomas, yes, they don't only judge music at UIL marching, but there are more music judges than marching judges and music is DEFINITELY a priority for UIL judging. They care about music more than anything else visually on the field. 3 music and 2 visual correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorjewell Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 3 music and 2 visual correct? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sax5warrior Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Wow, Marco, I have to say that hearing this come from you of all people I was surprised. I know you know your stuff, but I'm sorry but you are most definitely mistaken. Flower Mound was 4th in the state honor band results. I think that almost all band directors would agree that great concert bands do translate into good sounds on the marching field. I never said anything about Flower Mound and their inability to play music. I was just in agreement that sometimes one bad score by one judge may put them out of the state race, that was all. I do, however, recognized Flower Mound for having such a strong program. In no way, shape, or form did I say that they aren't that good, or doubted their marching abilities. I was just simply stating the inconsistencies placed by those UIL judges and it may hurt anyone, including your 4th place Honor Band contest Flower Mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsstephenyo Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Marco is right here. Flower Mound has always had an incredibly good concert band, but their marching results have never really reflected their excellent concert band. As others have said, music is only one aspect of marching band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 My take on Area B: State Locks: 1. LD Bell 2. Marcus 3. Hebron 4. Richland State Bubbles: Haltom Flower Mound Possible Finalists: Mansfield Plano East Colleyville Heritage Allen Martin Grapevine Wylie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntxmsbd Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think there are a couple of bands that are being over rated. I would be shocked to see wither Colleyville or Grapevine make finals. They were probably the two weakest groups in region 24 let alone the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borchnork Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Ehh... Colleyville has a shot, but I'd put Creekview up there before Colleyville. I'm thinking Wylie may be able to squeeze up into the state spot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerdad Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Marco is right here. Flower Mound has always had an incredibly good concert band, but their marching results have never really reflected their excellent concert band. As others have said, music is only one aspect of marching band. Agreed... If Honor Band status was a strong indicator of marching success this year, than any band outside of DFW should stay home- 1)Duncanville, 2)Marcus, 3)Coppell, 4)Flower Mound, 5)Rowlett, 6)Haltom, 7)Richland. Plus, L D Bell has not been an Honor Band finalist (they may just not submit tapes) in 20 years, and that hasn't slowed their marching program down. It is pretty impressive how 5 of the top 7 honor bands, and possibly 3-5 or the top 10 state bands could come from this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borchnork Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 yah, that's true... sometimes things just happen to bands that place really well at Honor Band... Ex: Southwest last year. 3rd in 4A honor band, but didn't qualify for even Area. I must admit, I was disappointed, because they seemed like some very very strong competition (not saying that what we went up against last year wasn't, because obviously it was. Lol, Aledo and Sherman both placed at the TSMC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorjewell Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I still think that a vast majority of the time that concert band success translates into success on the field in UIL. One cannot argue that bands who do well in the state honor band results are almost always at the top in marching band music as well. This discussion is really going to make me root for Flower Mound tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarinet_Lover41 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) I still think that a vast majority of the time that concert band success translates into success on the field in UIL.One cannot argue that bands who do well in the state honor band results are almost always at the top in marching band music as well. This discussion is really going to make me root for Flower Mound tomorrow. I think what everyone is arguing is just because you can play doesn't mean you will march well. They are a lot better this year but I don't know if it will be enough, the area is so tough! GOOD LUCK to Everyone Tomorrow! Edited October 24, 2008 by Clarinet_Lover41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donezo Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I could not have said it better myself. Yes, Plano East is good and yes, people overlook them, but judging from their UIL tape a couple of days ago, they need to fix their marching phrasing problems and sustaining their notes. That's why I didn't put them into finals Well they are a longshot for a state slot, but I would consider it an upset if Plano East didn't at least make finals. As far as who is advancing, I'm only sure of Marcus, Bell, and Hebron at this point. Richland and Haltom are both looking iffy to me. If things get really, really weird tomorrow I could even see Allen advancing. I bet at least someone will have them in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 If things get really, really weird tomorrow I could even see Allen advancing. I bet at least someone will have them in the top 5. I really enjoy being at a live performance by Allen, but I don't think they are competitive enough outside of sheer volume to advance, even under really screwy circumstances. But they sure do have a ton of fun and translate it well to the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donezo Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I really enjoy being at a live performance by Allen, but I don't think they are competitive enough outside of sheer volume to advance, even under really screwy circumstances. But they sure do have a ton of fun and translate it well to the audience. You're probably right. I was just at too many marching contests in high school where Allen placed A LOT higher than I thought they were going to (including Area C marching contest where they were an alternate twice in a row.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borchnork Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I could see Allen making it... It'd be a bit of a shocker, but they sure do have the potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcomac29 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 So are any moderators gonna' be at this contest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I actually don't think so. I'm going to be down at Area D to go see a bunch of bands that I haven't seen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borchnork Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I'll be there in spirit??? haha, not like it matters really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flutespaz21 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 in my opinion, the locks are Hebron, L.D. Bell, and Marcus, and the last two spots are up for grabs by about 6-8 other bands... man this is a bloodbath... but anything can happen, so good luck to everyone tomorrow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftwdrummer Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 We had an awful run at the football game tonight...but better tonight than tomorrow afternoon, true? Also, our new quads finally got in...this morning. Hallelujah. I'm trying to keep my enthusiasm for what's effectively my last real contest (unless a miracle happens) in check...it's not working as well as I'd hoped. Good luck to everybody tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the terminator Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 i wish u and ur band the best of luck, and hope u end ur band career w/ ur best ever performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seifer Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 in my opinion, the locks are Hebron, L.D. Bell, and Marcus, and the last two spots are up for grabs by about 6-8 other bands... man this is a bloodbath... but anything can happen, so good luck to everyone tomorrow!!! definitely agreed. except for hebron I would swap it for richland I think, Ive been hearing phenomenal things about them... but Ihavent seen them yet so I dont know. but you are definitely right, it is going to be a hardcore throwdown....i definitely see this as being one of those 'tenth of a point' type contests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takigan Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Personally I think the top 5 are pretty locked (Bell, Haltom, Hebron, Marcus and Richland in no particular order). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsx5 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 No one has really seen our (Haltom) show except forCarrollton TOC (3rd). Talk about flying under the radar. If we perform today like we did at Region on Tues Haltom is a serious top 5 STATE contender. Good luck to all! (poster is a parent-Band Nurse-Senior & Freshman students-with a seventh grader on the way!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtexas4444 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I watched LD Bell and Marcus today at area B prelims. They are both excellent. Very clear and obvious that they are in a totally different league than the rest of the bands. I see LD Bell stepping it up a notch in finals tonight as they normally do and considering they went so early today. In my opinion, I put Bell ahead of Marcus. Marcus' trumpets are not as good as they were last year - disappointment. In the beginning of their show - it was VERY obvious to me that they had some tone quality issues. But for the most part, I think the rest of the band is somewhat close, especially woodwinds. Very colorful show. One thing I do have to mention is that a parent from Boyd HS was speaking very loudly saying that LD Bell was playing and marching while the announcer was announcing them. She wanted to know what was up with that. I guess she felt that they should be disqualified. It was quite entertaining. It is going to be a great remainder of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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