2024 BOA San Antonio Super Regional (Nov. 8 & 9)

[Hard Core Band Fan]

7 hours ago, lhbenlee said:

I believe the logic is that UIL was losing ground to BOA for a lot of the best bands in the state and needed to curb that. Knowing that most districts will force schools to prioritize UIL over BOA, they made the move to go every year. 

It is also easier for many schools to participate in Area and State since the district will often cover some or all of those costs versus the booster program having to do so. The State format also allows more programs to get recognized for a level of success. 

Again,the BOA-style performance is the full version of the marching arts. Forcing a lesser version every year that will hurt the better competition isn't justified in my opinion. Glad you are happy with it. I am not.

[Tubalord11]

Anderson H.S., TX
Austin H.S., TX
Biloxi H.S., MS
Burnet H.S., TX
Cedar Park H.S., TX
Cedar Ridge H.S., TX
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX
College Park H.S., TX
Coppell H.S., TX
Cuero H.S., TX
Cy-Fair H.S., TX
Cypress Woods H.S., TX
Dawson H.S., TX
Dripping Springs H.S., TX
Flower Mound H.S., TX
Forney H.S., TX
Foster H.S., TX
Ganado H.S., TX
Glenn H.S., TX
Hargrave H.S., TX
Hebron H.S., TX
Hidalgo Early College H.S., TX
James Bowie H.S., TX
James E. Taylor H.S., TX
John B. Alexander H.S., TX
Jourdanton H.S., TX
Keller Central H.S., TX
Keller H.S., TX
L.D. Bell H.S., TX
Lake Travis H.S., TX
Leander H.S., TX
Magnolia H.S., TX
Marcus H.S., TX
McKinney H.S., TX
McNeil H.S., TX
Moe & Gene Johnson H.S., TX
Oak Ridge H.S., TX
Odem H.S., TX
Organ Mountain H.S., NM
Pearland H.S., TX
Pecos H.S., TX
Pflugerville H.S., TX
Pieper H.S., TX
Pioneer H.S., TX
Robert E. Hendrickson H.S., TX
Rock Hill H.S., TX
Ronald Reagan H.S., TX
Round Rock H.S., TX
Rouse H.S., TX
Sachse H.S., TX
Sandra Day O’Connor H.S., TX
Seven Lakes H.S., TX
Shadow Creek H.S., TX
Sharyland H.S., TX
Smithson Valley H.S., TX
Southlake Carroll H.S., TX
Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX
The Woodlands H.S., TX
United H.S., TX
Vandegrift H.S., TX
Vista Ridge H.S., TX
Waller H.S., TX
Walnut Grove H.S., TX
Waxahachie H.S., TX
Weiss H.S., TX
Westlake H.S., TX
Westwood H.S., TX
Winston Churchill H.S., TX
Wylie East H.S., TX
Wylie H.S., TX

Current as of June 11, 2024

Source: BOA

[lhbenlee]

14 hours ago, Hard Core Band Fan said:

Again,the BOA-style performance is the full version of the marching arts. Forcing a lesser version every year that will hurt the better competition isn't justified in my opinion. Glad you are happy with it. I am not.

I didn't say anywhere I was happy with it, I was just calling out the reasons, pros, and cons. In fact, don't like that bands who always want to go to BOSA and sometimes GNs now have a harder time planning for that because there is never an off-year for state, but I do see why UIL is doing it. 

Additionally, UIL continues to evolve their rules and judging criteria in such a way that it's becoming more aligned with BOA. There are still differences but they aren't as significant as they used to be and I think the delta for the "lesser version" of the art between BOA and State will continue to shrink pretty quickly.

It stinks that bands will have to opt out of State, BOASA, and/or GNs, some years just because of the schedule and it all being too much in terms of money, travel, time, etc...

[LeanderMomma]

5 hours ago, Tubalord11 said:

Biloxi H.S., MS

So excited to see two out of state bands competing here this year!

[Tubalord11]

1 hour ago, LeanderMomma said:

So excited to see two out of state bands competing here this year!

Ik!! Texas has a TON of regionals with out of state programs, super excited for it!! 

[packwick]

cedar park, coppell, flomo, hebron, keller, leander, marcus, pearland, reagan, round rock, rouse, twhs, vandy, and vista. that's actually 14 right there, mostly the legacy ones besides rouse who had an amazing 2023.

cedar ridge, ctj, cy-fair, bowie, bell, southlake carroll, waxahachie, and westlake. ld bell rocked it last yr, will see if they're consistent. westlake and ctj also made finals.

not sure which ones have had director changes. may create some opportunities.

[Sideswiperr]

14 minutes ago, packwick said:

cedar park, coppell, flomo, hebron, keller, leander, marcus, pearland, reagan, round rock, rouse, twhs, vandy, and vista. that's actually 14 right there, mostly the legacy ones besides rouse who had an amazing 2023.

cedar ridge, ctj, cy-fair, bowie, bell, southlake carroll, waxahachie, and westlake. ld bell rocked it last yr, will see if they're consistent. westlake and ctj also made finals.

not sure which ones have had director changes. may create some opportunities.

I would also like to bring light on Cypress Woods, they were only 3 off of finals so that gives me hope for them to make their first super-regional finals appearance.

[Houston213]

On 6/13/2024 at 6:57 PM, Sideswiperr said:

I would also like to bring light on Cypress Woods, they were only 3 off of finals so that gives me hope for them to make their first super-regional finals appearance.

I think it would be very difficult for Cypress Woods to beat any of the legacies that Packwick mentioned in his post above. This line up is super packed with great bands and not all of them will appear in finals. Cypress Woods might have placed 3 out of finals last year but we also must consider the absence of Keller, Coppell, Hebron, and Flower Mound who didn't attend last year but will this year. It would be lovely to see Cypress Woods join Bridgeland as a BOASA finalist, but this year will be tough to do so. 

[packwick]

cywoods def always on my mind as a potential finalist. rn they're like a consistent semifinalist at SA. just gotta make that last big push. tough competition this yr for sure.

[utee94]

A friend who is a parent/booster at Austin-Anderson said they're having to withdraw from BOA-San Antonio because they can't find enough charter buses available that day.  And AISD won't allow them to use yellow school buses on schooldays due to the driver shortage in Austin.

They're not ever really expected to advance but it still sucks for them, not getting to perform on the biggest stage.  

 

[0415dci]

On 6/10/2024 at 8:29 PM, crunchycookie3 said:

Dang… losing Bridgeland and Wakeland from last year is such a bummer! Those were both such treats in finals.

Since Bridgeland is competing at GN and state the same week, going to BOASA would be too much, especially costly since their fees are already pretty high

[tubapop]

On 8/13/2024 at 3:01 PM, Houston213 said:

I think it would be very difficult for Cypress Woods to beat any of the legacies that Packwick mentioned in his post above. This line up is super packed with great bands and not all of them will appear in finals. Cypress Woods might have placed 3 out of finals last year but we also must consider the absence of Keller, Coppell, Hebron, and Flower Mound who didn't attend last year but will this year. It would be lovely to see Cypress Woods join Bridgeland as a BOASA finalist, but this year will be tough to do so. 

There were also bands that won't be there this year (like Bridgeland) that were there last year. I think we'd need a full rundown of who will and won't be there compared to last year to determine whether there's a net gain or loss of open spots. (Of course, nothing is guaranteed and all spots are "open," but you know what I mean.)

[FaultLineBlues]

Info from Hornrank forums:

As of 9/23

FRIDAY
Panel 1:
9:15 TBA
9:30 TBA
9:45 Veterans Memorial, TX
10:00 Sandra Day O'Connor, TX
10:15 Louise, TX
10:30 Weiss, TX
10:45 Hargrave, TX
11:00 Sharyland, TX
11:15 Ganado, TX
11:30 Odem, TX
11:45 John B. Alexander, TX

12:00 Break

Panel 2:
12:30 Jourdanton, TX
12:45 Lake Travis, TX
1:00 Burnet, TX
1:15 Robert E. Hendrickson, TX
1:30 Cedar Park, TX
1:45 Austin, TX
2:00 Glenn, TX
2:15 Leander, TX
2:30 Westlake, TX
2:45 Moe & Gene Johnson, TX

3:00 Break

Panel 1:
3:15 James Bowie, TX
3:30 James E. Taylor, TX
3:45 Winston Churchill, TX
4:00 Pflugerville, TX
4:15 Round Rock, TX
4:30 Cedar Ridge, TX
4:45 Ronald Reagan, TX
5:00 Smithson Valley, TX
5:15 Flower Mound, TX

5:30 Break

Panel 2:
6:15 Basha, AZ
6:30 Keller, TX
6:45 McNeil, TX
7:00 Rouse, TX
7:15 Westwood, TX
7:30 Claudia Taylor Johnson, TX
7:45 Pieper, TX
8:00 Organ Mountain, NM
8:15 Vista Ridge, TX
8:30 Walnut Grove, TX
8:45 Keller Central, TX
9:00 Hidalgo Early College, TX
9:15 Biloxi, MS


SATURDAY:
Panel 1:
7:00 TBA
7:15 United, TX
7:30 The Woodlands, TX
7:45 Dawson, TX
8:00 Marcus, TX
8:15 Wylie East, TX
8:30 College Park, TX
8:45 Stephen F. Austin, TX
9:00 Rock Hill, TX

9:15 Break

Panel 2:
9:30 McKinney, TX
9:45 Hebron, TX
10:00 Oak Ridge, TX
10:15 L.D. Bell, TX
10:30 Forney, TX
10:45 Southlake Carroll, TX
11:00 Sachse, TX
11:15 Foster, TX
11:30 Cy-Fair, TX
11:45 Shadow Creek, TX
12:00 Waxahachie, TX
12:15 Seven Lakes, TX

12:30 Break

Panel 1:
1:00 Coppell, TX
1:15 Dripping Springs, TX
1:30 Pioneer, TX
1:45 Pearland, TX
2:00 Waller, TX
2:15 Cypress Woods, TX
2:30 Wylie, TX
2:45 Pecos, TX
3:00 Vandegrift, TX

3:15 Exhibition: Spirit of Houston Marching Band

[ChristopherRoden]

Wow. this is a TOUGH contest! If I recall its top 5 from each panel and then next 4 based on score. Trying to think of the top 5 of each panel gives me like 10 bands/panel! 

[TruthMatters]

6 minutes ago, ChristopherRoden said:

Wow. this is a TOUGH contest! If I recall its top 5 from each panel and then next 4 based on score. Trying to think of the top 5 of each panel gives me like 10 bands/panel! 

Yeah, lot's of great bands going to be on the outside looking in for finals!

[crunchycookie3]

Looking at how the panels are assigned, I only feel comfortable calling Cedar Park, Vandegrift, and Hebron locks for this year. Someone biiiiiig is getting left out of finals for the first time in a long time here.

[band007]

33 minutes ago, ChristopherRoden said:

Wow. this is a TOUGH contest! If I recall its top 5 from each panel and then next 4 based on score. Trying to think of the top 5 of each panel gives me like 10 bands/panel! 

Sorry, just a little confused by this. What exactly does it mean the top 5 from each panel. Is it not just the 14 highest scores across all of prelims?

[crunchycookie3]

2 minutes ago, band007 said:

Sorry, just a little confused by this. What exactly does it mean the top 5 from each panel. Is it not just the 14 highest scores across all of prelims?

No--every other block in prelims is judged by a different panel. Each panel admits the 5 highest-scoring bands in their respective panel in prelims, then the next 4 highest-scoring bands advance regardless of panel. This opens up the possibility that a 15th place band advances, though this highly unlikely and has not happened (yet.)

[band007]

Just now, crunchycookie3 said:

No--every other block in prelims is judged by a different panel. Each panel admits the 5 highest-scoring bands in their respective panel in prelims, then the next 4 highest-scoring bands advance regardless of panel. This opens up the possibility that a 15th place band advances, though this highly unlikely and has not happened (yet.)

Ah ok thank you

[MikeKyu]

24 minutes ago, crunchycookie3 said:

No--every other block in prelims is judged by a different panel. Each panel admits the 5 highest-scoring bands in their respective panel in prelims, then the next 4 highest-scoring bands advance regardless of panel. This opens up the possibility that a 15th place band advances, though this highly unlikely and has not happened (yet.)

And to clarify even more: 

 

There are only 2 judging panels...not a different panel for each block. 

[packwick]

the top of panel 1 is yiiiikes. entire top 3 from last yr is on it, plus FloMo, Reagan, and Pearland, all of whom look like potential top halfer finalists this yr if they can get their shows clean.

Hebron will be an easy 1st place for panel 2 methinks.

panels might be more even in terms of overall finalist split, but im having trouble seeing that too. but then the way that the system is set up will force some parity.

[utee94]

I'm pretty disappointed to see Cedar Park in prelims on Friday instead of Saturday.  I was hoping that since the kids are going to Grand Nationals the following week and missing two days of school for that, BOA would be considerate and put CP into prelims for BOA-SA on Saturday.  The week of BOA-SA is already a very short week with Monday and Tuesday off for staff development (and going to UIL State on those days, presumably).  So missing ANY more school in that week, plus two days the following week for Grand Nationals, is brutal

[ChristopherRoden]

My current break down by panel*:

Panel 1:
Top 5: Vandegrift, Marcus, Reagan, Flower Mound, Cedar Ridge 

Next 5: TWHS, Dripping Springs, Bowie, Coppell, Pearland 

Potential spoilers: Dawson, Wylie, Cy Woods, Wylie East, Round Rock, Rock Hill

Panel 2: 

Top 5: Cedar Park, CTJ, Vista Ridge, LD Bell, Hebron 

Next 5: Leander, Westlake, Keller, Rouse, Cy Fair

Potential spoilers: Lake Travis, Hendrickson, MG Johnson, McNeil, Westwood, Keller Central, Forney, Southlake Carroll, Waxahachie

These will likely shift around as we have more head to head contests but goodness! 


*Groups within the same echelon are not in placement order





 

[TruthMatters]

48 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I'm pretty disappointed to see Cedar Park in prelims on Friday instead of Saturday.  I was hoping that since the kids are going to Grand Nationals the following week and missing two days of school for that, BOA would be considerate and put CP into prelims for BOA-SA on Saturday.  The week of BOA-SA is already a very short week with Monday and Tuesday off for staff development (and going to UIL State on those days, presumably).  So missing ANY more school in that week, plus two days the following week for Grand Nationals, is brutal

I get it, but every school can have reasons why they want to be in a certain slot versus another.  The choice to do BOA SA and Nationals is the schools choice and BOA can't always make exceptions for everyone.  Then they have to worry about distance traveled, who has money to stay 2 nights in a hotel versus 1, those who may be going to state 6A on Monday, and etc.,  Sometimes the logistics work out well.  Sometimes they don't.   

 

32 minutes ago, ChristopherRoden said:

My current break down by panel*:

Panel 1:
Top 5: Vandegrift, Marcus, Reagan, Flower Mound, Cedar Ridge 

Next 5: TWHS, Dripping Springs, Bowie, Coppell, Pearland 

Potential spoilers: Dawson, Wylie, Cy Woods, Wylie East, Round Rock, Rock Hill

Panel 2: 

Top 5: Cedar Park, CTJ, Vista Ridge, LD Bell, Hebron 

Next 5: Leander, Westlake, Keller, Rouse, Cy Fair

Potential spoilers: Lake Travis, Hendrickson, MG Johnson, McNeil, Westwood, Keller Central, Forney, Southlake Carroll, Waxahachie

These will likely shift around as we have more head to head contests but goodness! 


*Groups within the same echelon are not in placement order





 

Given their performance last year I'd say Panel 2 was more 3 locks with Hebron, CP, and VR and then next 7.  I don't see LD Bell or CTJ having any advantage over the other schools listed especially with Rouse's and Westlake's showing in this weekends competition.  

For Panel 1 it can go a million different ways.  So stacked!!!!  

[seafoodbuffet]

40 minutes ago, ChristopherRoden said:

My current break down by panel*:

Panel 1:
Top 5: Vandegrift, Marcus, Reagan, Flower Mound, Cedar Ridge 

Next 5: TWHS, Dripping Springs, Bowie, Coppell, Pearland 

Potential spoilers: Dawson, Wylie, Cy Woods, Wylie East, Round Rock, Rock Hill

Panel 2: 

Top 5: Cedar Park, CTJ, Vista Ridge, LD Bell, Hebron 

Next 5: Leander, Westlake, Keller, Rouse, Cy Fair

Potential spoilers: Lake Travis, Hendrickson, MG Johnson, McNeil, Westwood, Keller Central, Forney, Southlake Carroll, Waxahachie

These will likely shift around as we have more head to head contests but goodness! 


*Groups within the same echelon are not in placement order





 

TWHS in next five? Weren’t they silver medalists for the last two years? Possible but seems unlikely. That just shows how crazy this contest is this year. Many deserving bands, bands that could make GN finals, medal at other super regionals, etc aren’t going to perform in finals here.