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Not extremely surprised to see Marcus sweep this one...they basically give these judges everything they want: a clean easy (compared to Hebron) show. Now, I would be completely shocked if San Antonio played out like this.

Yeah Haltoms placement has me thinking this doesn't align with BOA very well... Congrats to Marcus though, band is better when they're good. I would love to see them make top 7 at San Antonio.

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I absolutely love Marcus’ show this year, but I still feel that it’s pretty obvious that Marcus does not have the most difficult music or drill, and that’s not a bad thing at all. Marcus has the cleanest music and drill, regardless of difficulty, which is what is rewarded at this competition. Hebron swept captions in prelims here and beat Marcus in both rounds of BOA DFW competition. I know a lot can change throughout the season but it is a little silly not to recognize how well Marcus’ style meshes with this judging system, especially when these results are drastically different than BOA.

 

Difficulty does not equal success. Cleanliness equals success and Marcus is a the MASTER of cleanliness. Calling something easy compared to Hebron is not a diss at all. Pretty much any band is “easy” compared to Hebron. I agree that my choice of using the word “easy” was not correct. I sincerely apologize for my poor choice of words. In reality Marcus’ show is extremely difficult in the grand scheme of high school marching band. It’s just that Hebron is attempting the most difficult musical book probably ever.

 

I just want to reiterate how much I LOVE the Marcus band and didn’t mean to slight their amazing performance. I was just wanted to point out the differences in this scoring system compared to BOA as to explain why some bands do better at different competitions. Marcus 100% deserved this win here.

 

I can’t wait to see Marcus in BOA San Antonio finals this year. They are a unique gem in the Texas band world <3

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Hebron, on the other hand, is pacing itself for a season that's two weeks longer.

Hebron's Preliminary run had some dirt in the more difficult sections of the drill and this is nothing new for them. The music performance was clean, not flawless, but difficult and clean. In other words, Hebron doing what Hebron does.

 

In Finals, Hebron had the same issues with the more difficult sections of their drill but they also had several sections of their music performance that were a bit less clean, less clear, less crisp than the Preliminary run. The second run just wasn't as strong and at this level of competition it left them vulnerable.

 

I do not believe for a second that what happened tonight had anything to do with Hebron pacing for a longer season.

 

That's not how it works. Especially at an elite program.

 

Meanwhile, Marcus did what Marcus does. Relentlessly.

 

There's no big mystery here. Tonight was actually remarkably similar to what happened last week in Waco.

 

Clean is King...and it's good to be the King.

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Hebron's Preliminary run had some dirt in the more difficult sections of the drill and this is nothing new for them. The music performance was clean, not flawless, but difficult and clean. In other words, Hebron doing what Hebron does.

In Finals, Hebron had the same issues with the more difficult sections of their drill but they also had several sections of their music performance that were a bit less clean, less clear, less crisp than the Preliminary run. The second run just wasn't as strong and at this level of competition it left them vulnerable.

I do not believe for a second that what happened tonight had anything to do with Hebron pacing for a longer season.

That's not how it works. Especially at an elite program.

Meanwhile, Marcus did what Marcus does. Relentlessly.

There's no big mystery here. Tonight was actually remarkably similar to what happened last week in Waco.

Clean is King...and it's good to be the King.

I can promise you that Hebron not being consistently clean at this point in the season has everything to do with the difficulty of their show, which was designed to peak two weeks later than Marcus. So, yes, it is related to the overall pacing of the season. Hebron just needs more time with their program.

 

Secondly, I saw both finals performances and am well aware of why each band ended where they did, but I felt no reason to elaborate on any critical thoughts I may have had. Instead, I chose to focus on the positives and the potential for each band's final performance this season.

 

Finally, I have access to the sheets and can tell you that two judges in prelims also had Marcus ahead in music. They both had Hebron in third, one with Keller in first and the other with Waxahachie in second. So, while their finals run may have had some clarity issues in their closer, it seems the judges also found some issues in their prelims run, as well. My point is that I trust their staff will guide those students through one of the hardest shows out there into what will eventually be some some of the most memorable performances at Grand Nats.

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Alright...if it makes you feel better, you can have the last word. You obviously have a greater understanding of music education and competitive marching band than I do.

Wonderful. More sarcastic, passive aggression. Like there isn't already far too much of it on display in this community.

 

Since you seem to be missing my main point I will try to clarify. Please notice I selected a very specific line from your original comment and deleted/ignored the rest. It was intended to show my comment is focused on that one area of what you said. I did not voice objection to anything else in your comment. Why? Because most of what you said is relevant and reasonably accurate. But, in my view, blending the concept of pacing unnecessarily reduced the accuracy and convoluted what you said.

 

Pace is a word with multiple definitions and in this context your usage seems to imply that Hebron is somehow managing this season differently because it is two weeks longer. Like how an athlete uses a different strategy for expenditure of energy in 100, 200, and 400 meter races.

 

I simply disagree.

 

You did say they may have made more difficult design choices knowing they would have an additional two weeks to clean the show.

 

Perhaps. I clearly didn't choose to debate that point. I also don't think Hebron's design this year is uncharacteristically difficult for them. As I said previously, it's Hebron being Hebron. And at this level everyone's performance gets better with two more weeks of work, regardless of design difficulty. That had nothing to do with pacing. It's because of the work.

 

If, in the end, you think we are just debating semantics, I will stand by what I said while agreeing to disagree without further debate. If you think I have misunderstood your original comment and would like to restate/clarify it, I'd love to hear what you have to say.

 

Without the sarcasm.

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