MadisonBandMan1 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I know this is a Band forum, but guard is such a huge part of general effect now and these kids deserve some credit. I also don't want to deal with withdrawal, so this should fill the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey L. Gorman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I understand your belief that Guard is a huge part of GE, however unless you are a large school with a multiple staff, the chances are you will not have much time to spend for WGI events. Most schools try to get involved in local guard circuits and even that is difficult under UIL rules. I live in a Region that has 37 A-AAA HS Bands. There are only 16 5A & 6A schools in the region. The Small schools mostly have a Single Band Director working at the school with an assistant who is primarily working at the Middle Schools. The primary TMEA and UIL emphasis after Marching Season is Solo and Ensemble and All Region, Area and All State Bands. The Band Director of a Small school does not have the time to spend much time with Guard Units when Solo and Ensemble and Region Band are the more important emphasis. Second since Guard is not a UIL Recognized activity, you have to fund it yourself, which is hard. Your comment about the Guard being a huge part of General Effect is only valid with schools that have the staff to support this activity. Another negative is that in small schools, the same kids are doing basketball, cheerleading, FFA , choir, wrestling etc. When you only have 300 students in school , Guard is a "NICE TO HAVE" option but no something most smaller schools spend the money for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Well, to be fair, he did title the topic as WGI, which refers to Winter Guard International. This competition is exclusively for guard units, so one can assume that anyone competing in WGI is most likely from a large school. Not always the case, but most often is. And you're right. It's expensive, and it takes a hugely committed director and parents, and it's not for everybody. But man it's fun!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well, to be fair, he did title the topic as WGI, which refers to Winter Guard International. This competition is exclusively for guard units, so one can assume that anyone competing in WGI is most likely from a large school. Not always the case, but most often is. And you're right. It's expensive, and it takes a hugely committed director and parents, and it's not for everybody. But man it's fun!!! WGI is not exclusively for guard units. WGI has competitions for color guard, percussion, and winds. AvonDad and LeanderMomma 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Anyone else watching WGI San Antonio today? Good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bksatx Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Heading there in a bit for CTJ!!! LeanderMomma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Heading there in a bit for CTJ!!! I'm sure they will be phenomenal as always, but Leander just blew me away! Okay, I know I'm a tad biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Leander's show is the real deal. That should be going to Dayton. An incredible improvement from last year, and a cut above everything else I've seen on the cast today. I can totally see them getting close to 70 points today, if not crossing it. JeremiahW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Leander's show is the real deal. That should be going to Dayton. An incredible improvement from last year, and a cut above everything else I've seen on the cast today. I can totally see them getting close to 70 points today, if not crossing it. Oh good, I'm glad it wasn't just me and my obvious bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Called it! Leander beat Westlake by 3 points and pulled a 69.39! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Called it! Leander beat Westlake by 3 points and pulled a 69.39! Great! Where did you see that? Rudedog34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Great! Where did you see that? https://www.wgi.org/wp-content/uploads/wgi_events/static_scores/2018/scores_San_Antonio_CG_Prelims.html LeanderMomma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 https://www.wgi.org/wp-content/uploads/wgi_events/static_scores/2018/scores_San_Antonio_CG_Prelims.html Am I wrong or did Leander have the highest prelim score of the entire day?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Am I wrong or did Leander have the highest prelim score of the entire day?! They did! I would probably even say they were the best scholastic group of the day. It was *that* good. Leander also had the best Scholastic A prelims score of the entire circuit today. Their finals performance was even better just now, so I think they'll keep that going. Normally, I would say this doesn't matter, but WGI seeding is determined by regional performance, so this will bode well for WGI Championships. Hard Core Band Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 They did! I would probably even say they were the best scholastic group of the day. It was *that* good. Leander also had the best Scholastic A prelims score of the entire circuit today. Their finals performance was even better just now, so I think they'll keep that going. Normally, I would say this doesn't matter, but WGI seeding is determined by regional performance, so this will bode well for WGI Championships. I’m glad someone else is watching this with me. I thought Leander and Westlake did superb! And I love Westlakes costume. Wow. I’m still fairly new to WGI. I really started watching it last year and now I’m hooked. I don’t really understand all of the different classifications and how that is determined. I also don’t know what they mean by “division.” Is that a location in the state, or another CG classification of some sort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 The intermission music makes me want to do a tap dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 I’m glad someone else is watching this with me. I thought Leander and Westlake did superb! And I love Westlakes costume. Wow. I’m still fairly new to WGI. I really started watching it last year and now I’m hooked. I don’t really understand all of the different classifications and how that is determined. I also don’t know what they mean by “division.” Is that a location in the state, or another CG classification of some sort? So there are six (or eight) divisions or classifications in WGI: Scholastic (Regional A, A, Open, World) and Independent (Regional A, A, Open, World). Scholastic is just for high school groups. All but the two Regional divisionsare classes eligible for WGI Championships. World is generally the strongest class with the most complex, involved, and difficult performances. That's not to say there isn't massive strength in A, though. I personally thought Klein Oak's show last year would have made finals in Scholastic Open at WGI Championships too. There's no particular determinant for what division a group initially competes in. WGI (and TCGC) do move groups up based on prior year performances though, and there's a check of the top 3 at every regional, so a group can move up in the middle of the season. Moving back down classes is a difficult process, which requires extra review and backsliding in the ranks; a guard director isn't easily allowed to just move back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Ummmmmmmm.....okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Anyone else watching WGI San Antonio today? Good stuff! Yes, I'm here with you as well. LeanderMomma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Ummmmmmmm.....okay. Don't worry, you'll pick up the guard lingo as times goes by. I was heavily involved in guard activity for years and it took a while. I was a wind player and this is a different world. Different, but very fun! LeanderMomma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Changed my mind on the best Scholastic group of the day. CTJ had a much better run in finals and that show has a ton of content. Will be great when it's finished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Changed my mind on the best Scholastic group of the day. CTJ had a much better run and that show has a ton of content. Will be great when it's finished! I think that Leander performed theirs better today, though. Loved them both. Leander just received a 71 in finals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
principalagent Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Leander will almost certainly make finals at Dayton if they keep it up. Perhaps finish in the top half too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Band Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Leander will almost certainly make finals at Dayton if they keep it up. Perhaps finish in the top half too! I agree! Although I will say that the SA division is insanely difficult at the World Championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanderMomma Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Wow, that final score for Leander!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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