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#94651 Bands Missing State for Grand Nationals?

Posted by jarrettlipman on 26 October 2016 - 03:33 PM


Yes -- Claudia Taylor Johnson is only planning to participate in prelims for area. We have been talking to Dr. Kent over the last few weeks about the best way to proceed without potentially affecting other schools and it seems that was the best compromise.

We began planning our nationals trip during the fall of 2014 knowing it would be a state year but not fully prepared for the decision to split state into two days, which we think is awesome ... but makes for an even longer week for our band members and the potential for up to four days of missed classss for them. We also want our truck and equipment to have ample time to travel /  drive and with the potential for weather that time of year we really want our vehicles to leave Tuesday night and not mid day weds.

We love us some band ... but want our band members fully rested and charged for Indy. We don't go very often and want the trip to be very special and have them fresh for it.

We will be staying to watch area finals and cheer on the other groups and for future will not plan to do nationals on a state year again. We are appreciative of Dr. Kent's understanding and support and are excited for the weeks ahead! #teamTexas will be strong at nationals

Jarrett Lipman

#94385 2016 6A State Predictions

Posted by bandobando on 20 October 2016 - 04:52 AM

In response to these "controversial" posts about Flower Mound. I can guarantee you 100% that FMHS follows the 8-hour rule. Do people really think they would risk the consequences? Furthermore, as NTXBandFan stated, the band simply learns/reviews fundamental marching in May to get them ready for marching season. It's a good time to start learning because it gives the band members a basic understanding of the activity before summer (when so many people are out of town). And they don't start learning drill until several days after August 1. (Keep in mind they have a competition band and a JV band. Summer rehearsals and the first few days of band camp are used to sort through band members and assign them to a specific marching band. It would be impossible to learn drill with more band members than drill spots in the competition band.)

Flower Mound's rehearsal schedule has been nearly identical the past >4 years. If they were "cheating" the UIL standards, it would've been uncovered by now. Nothing is different this year other than the fact that everything aligned for an incredible show perfected by a hardworking staff and performed by extremely dedicated students.

Other bands are doing wonderfully. But there is no denying the fact that Flower Mound just has an amazing show completely suited for them. And frankly, this isn't that much of a surprise; FM has been building its reputation and performance ability throughout its last 5 or so seasons. You can see their development in the competition results, especially since 2014 when they went to Grand Nats.

Flower Mound puts in the same amount of time as Hebron, Marcus, etc. There is literally no question. They're just an awesome band surrounded by other awesome bands. Don't discredit their success, especially on the basis of very little evidence!

#86554 2013 BOA San Antonio Super Regional

Posted by GR parent on 04 November 2013 - 12:53 AM

This Blue Springs parent had a GREAT time at San Antonio!  What they say about the Texas bands, is all true.  There were sooooo many awesome bands there this weekend!  And the fans were GREAT too!  So many GREAT kids and GREAT fans!  Thank you!

#86397 2013 BOA San Antonio Super Regional

Posted by Jackson1 on 30 October 2013 - 08:48 PM

Not to get Doctor Phil"ish" but here is my advice for all bands:


1.  DON"T WORRY ABOUT OTHER BANDS! - They are doing exactly what you are doing.  Cleaning and polishing their show to put on the best product they can.  You cannot control that so focus on your show and your role.


2.  APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT! -   Win or lose, think about the support you have had in order to get here.  Band directors and staff, parents, student leadership, etc.  Your have an army behind you.


3.  ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE - Bond with friends.  Enjoy the trip.  Remember everyone there has a love of music and marching.  Break out of your comfort zone and meet other people from other areas.  You don't get the chance to meet so many other people from so many other places with the same passion.  Reach out!!!!


4.  JUST PLAY!!!!!! -  That rush of adrenaline you get right before walking on the field - Use it, harness it, own it!!!!  Play your heart out!!!   Leave the field thinking "I didn't leave anything out on that field and neither did the rest of my team". 




Good luck to all!!!

#86360 Forum Editorial

Posted by Danpod on 29 October 2013 - 11:10 PM


I'm Daniel Valdez.  I'm one of the Moderators here on Txbands.com.  You'll also see me throw it down on the TxBands Live Blog with Daniel Sanchez (Xenon) at the Super Regional this weekend!


I'd first like to say howdy to all of our newest members on the site!  We always have a nice jump in membership when Fall season starts.  We always appreciate people paying attention to the site, whether it is through our Forums board or our Live Blog.  We are completely indebted to our loyal members.  Your support and love really does make Marching Band Season that much more enjoyable!

Texas State Marching Contest is, by far, the most intense State Marching Band contest in the United States.  It's a big deal.  Hell, we're a big freakin' State!  Bands from all across Texas have The Alamodome set in their sights all year long.  That's the ultimate goal for the majority of bands across the State.  If we make State, we're golden.  The parking lot at State Contest is littered with cars that have State Or Bust written in shoe polish on the back windshield.  It's serious business here.  I totally get it.


Unfortunately, the spirit of sportsmanship and competition gets lost in translation on the Internet.  People say things that are really stupid.  People try to bring other programs down that they think don't "deserve" the placement they received.  People criticize specific programs to the point that the entire comment simply looks like garbage.  I've noticed this happening on this Forum for a bit this year.  I'm not really a fan of the lame comments.  Nobody really is.  I'm not sure why you would even hint that you are from a certain program while typing out hateful stuff on here.  Just remember that if your directors find out, we're not to blame.


If you've read this far, thanks a ton!  All I can do is ask you folks who wish to be jerks on here to think really hard before you post something.  In the end, it's just a contest.  Celebrate those who have succeeded so far this season.  Do not attempt to bring them down because honestly, you won't be able to tear them down from the cloud that they have built themselves with hard work and dedication.


Congratulations to all those who made the State Marching Contest!  I'll see you good folks this weekend at The Alamodome!

#86068 Band Parent Pet Peeves - #1 = Football Games

Posted by bandie on 26 October 2013 - 08:00 PM

On the flip side?  Kudos to whoever brought a busload of Hutto football players, in jerseys, to the Area D Prelims today to cheer on their band!  The parents in the stands were amazed and impressed!

#95117 2016 6A State Predictions

Posted by justabandkid94 on 02 November 2016 - 05:16 AM

I know it's already been addressed... However, after lurking and commenting way less than usual this year, I have to say I'm a bit disappointed reading this thread.

Good sportsmanship should always be practiced, even if you're a parent. I'm not a fan of some of this discussion on here.Thinking back to my high school days, one of the most defeating feelings was reading a negative comment on my show from some anonymous internet person.

Let's think about this:

1) EVERY single kid works their heart off on and off the field.
2) if you identify on this forum with a band program and make a trivial comment, that reflects on the program. Whether you want it to or not.

From now own, use this thread to constructively talk about all the bands. I say this every year, but TRULY anything can happen come state. Fate will play out how it's meant to be, and we will all agree that this was an incredible season.

Think before you post.

#95013 6A State Bands Video Megathread

Posted by Nny14 on 31 October 2016 - 06:17 PM

I'd never thought Id hear someone say they wanted Hebron, Marcus, and Flower Mound to play MORE than they already do

#94999 6A State Bands Video Megathread

Posted by LKendrick on 31 October 2016 - 03:43 PM

There was a LOT of movement between Prelims and finals. Very....odd. How Wylie jumped 3 spots and North Mesquite dropped 3 is questionable at best. After prelims 1 point separated Boyd (6) and North Mesquite (5), after finals 4 points separated Boyd (6) and Wylie (5) I am sorry Wylie did NOT play THAT much better and North Mesquite THAT much worse. Not to mention Boyd's final was also much better than the prelims and they did not move at all. But, unfortunately, it is what it is and nothing can be done about it. Closed door judging is always ify at best in my opinion.

I personally am tired of having, in the case of this year, 21 bands fight for 2 spots since it's a forgone conclusion that Flower Mound, Marcus and Hebron will always go.  Sad to see BOA/DCI style of marches bleeding into UIL competitions. It used to be about the music and the march now it's about flash and solo performances. Hate seeing bands who march and play music WHILE marching constantly getting beat by bands who march while a soloist plays and then only play half the music the other bands play. UIL has all these rules regarding music, how long, how much solo limits....etc during concert season but not during marching...why? But, again, it is what it is and we all have to live with it I guess.

Have you watched Hebron, Flower Mound, or Marcus objectively?  

Particularly Hebron.  I watched them last night and was absolutely floored at the musical demands they have while on the move, particularly in the closer.  Was like this in their opener last year too.  No one is doing what they are doing while marching, or a very select few.  I mean the woodwinds are playing insane runs on the move and the brass is double and triple toungjng on the move.  There is no lack of demand.  

Also on the 3 you mentioned, 90% of their props are either backdrop/stage setting or not involved enough with the drill that you could strip them away and the show would still work very well.

But those two things aside they also march and play like very few can.  You can hate the props, hate the style and hate the flashy stuff.  But when you strip all that stuff away they are still performing like the best of the best.  That is not BOA bleeding into UIL judging.  It's just playing and marching the best.   Give them a "UIL" style show and they'd probably still win.

I get the frustration.  When I was in HS it was ALWAYS Azle, Boswell, and some El Paso bands that advanced.  No one competed with them.  But the fact of the matter is they were way better and deserved to advance because state is the best of the best.  

No matter how you draw those Area lines there are always gonna be those bands that destroy everyone and someone is gonna get screwed.  It's just how it works.  

And in terms of prelims vs finals judging, of course bands are not gonna stay.  When you only have 10 to manage rather than 25+ the results tighten and there are no wacky lower than 10th judges that can tank someone.  Prelims to finals shifts are nothing new.  

#94929 Area H Predictions?

Posted by Chupacabra1222 on 30 October 2016 - 04:39 PM

As a band director in NISD at O'Connor I can say with certainty that the realignment was in the best interest of all schools in the State. TMEA decided to realign for the first time in many years and with so many large schools it's understandable why. UIL likewise followed suit and used very similar zones to the TMEA lines. In reality, these new UIL zones create closer proximity contests for most/not all schools and lessens the burden for all in general in terms of travel.
I applaud all the Area H schools and finalists, it was an honor to share the field with so many great bands. I wish the very best to Vandegrift, Leander, Westlake and Vista Ridge who will represent the Area to the fullest degree. I'm saddened that O'Connor did not advance for the first time in a long time, but I also think that as stated above the NISD schools and ourselves are stronger and will continue to be in the future. Best wishes to all bands at State and BOA.

Wesley Perkins
O'Connor HS Band

#86299 UIL 4A State Marching Contest

Posted by Xenon on 28 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

I am locking this thread for the next day at least to allow things to settle down. The level of antagonism against specific bands is getting out of hand and is generally without any valid basis.

#94524 2016 6A State Predictions

Posted by SnareSnare13 on 23 October 2016 - 11:34 PM

I would like to bring this up because I think it'll help some people who don't understand it yet.

You shouldn't publicly say anything about any other program UNLESS it is positive. You, as an individual, wear a name that isn't yours when you walk around. You walk around with your School, and all of it's past years of success and failures and attitudes attached to that. So when you post something about another school, especially one that is so close and competitive as Flomo Marcus and Hebron are, you ruin that reputation that your school has built for so long. All of the sudden, because of what you as an individual said, you put an image on the rest of the thousands of kids that have worn the same uniform as you. So please don't be that person. Only post positive things. I saw that the post was changed to an apology, so I'm glad that he or she retracted their statements, which is good. I'm sure it's just frustrating to have another person running right next to them.


Moving on, this is an amazing activity because there aren't really underdogs. I know there are schools that are less successful and so on and so forth, but what's great about marching band is that you are placed based on what you put out there. No one else can affect your scores. Reagan can't affect CTJ or Flomo's scores. You can only push yourself and make yourself and your band better. So don't get caught up in what another band IS or ISN'T doing, because you can't do anything about it. You can't make them do worse, you can only do better. So instead of focussing so much on another school, focus on yourself.


I lived in an era where my school was one of a few extremely dominant schools at the time, there were always some exceptions but just hear me out. Reagan, Bell, and the Woodlands (Also Winston Churchill so four schools I don't know why I said three, in fact I should be saying 300 because that's what it always felt like) we were always insanely close. It was incredibly frustrating to lose to one of those schools, especially when I thought we were better than them. So I understand the frustration. Just use it to motivate yourself, not to post on the World-Wide web to see it.

#94261 2016 6A State Predictions

Posted by LKendrick on 16 October 2016 - 11:15 PM

I don't think saying Hebron or Marcus could or will win state is controversial.   I think when it comes down to it those two are the powerhouses.   I think we might just have a new member in the club.  

What impressed me so much about Flower Mound last week was pretty much all performance related.  The show is awesome, absolutely, but they've had pretty fantastic shows for a few years now, what is changing is they are now able to really perform those shows at the highest of levels.  I think even taking away GE they will still be able to hang because they march and play that effective show SO well.  It will be a ton closer in the UIL arena for sure.  

Marcus has a show tailored to them PERFECTLY and they will sound sublime in a few weeks.  Hebron has another technical marvel that will sound amazing too.  I fully expect those two to be the ones to beat, as well as Flower Mound.  I think some people are mistaking lack of discussion on the other two for people not thinking they have a chance.  Which is not the case.    

I don't think anyone is saying that Flower Mound is going to walk into state, get a 5 ordinal score, and no one will touch them.   But, it wasn't their show design and GE doing all the work last week, the proficiency of how they delivered that was what made it special.

#86259 2013 Duncanville Marching Invitational

Posted by Jackson1 on 28 October 2013 - 03:51 PM

Here is what amazes me:


These kids get together in early August.  They take in 20% freshman who have never marched and played before and take them under their wing.  They learn the music.  They learn the drills.  They put together a show with the guard.  In 3 months they all put on a show with a level of talent that we saw on Saturday. 


On top of that they have academics, family obligations, church, a social life, etc.  The amount of time and effort, not only of these kids, but of the band directors and staff, student leadership, we band parents and the people who put on these competitions is unreal.


I can only speak for my kid but he wouldn't give it up for the world.  The discipline, camaraderie, friendships, and experiences these band programs provide is unbelievable.  These kids will remember this for the rest of their lives and 90% of them will never play an instrument again after they graduate.


My hat is off to every band, every time they walk on the field and perform.  I have only been involved with this for two years but I am amazed with every band I have ever seen in that time.


And on the topic of band parents.  I have not had a bad experience yet.  In this area we are all so supportive of each other.  I, literally, bumped into a Marcus parent at Duncanville.  We looked at each others shirts, and at the same time said "I love your show this year!!".  We laughed, shook hands and wished each other luck in SA.  Everyone I meet at these things is so positive it makes me feel privileged to be a part of it.


Good luck to all in San Antonio!!!!!!


End of rant.........

#95572 2016 6A UIL State

Posted by LKendrick on 10 November 2016 - 05:17 AM

When it comes down to it these were 40 of the best bands in the country let alone the state.  Placing 30th or 1st, you're among the best of the best. 

#95082 2016 6A State Predictions

Posted by principalagent on 01 November 2016 - 11:44 PM

I mean. The parent is not wrong... even if it's homerism

#92923 2015 BOA San Antonio Predictions

Posted by LKendrick on 31 October 2015 - 04:34 AM

While we may have our own opinions of how this is being handled, to say that they haven't been working INCREDIBLY hard to make this work is just not right.  I couldn't imagine to have to deal with such a logistical nightmare.  Regardless of what happened, BOA did their best to try and accommodate EVERYONE.  While I am INCREDIBLY dissapointed that Leander is only going to be performing in exhibition and the thought of finals without them there is just not sitting right with me, there are 60+ other bands that are competing that BOA has also been working with, and it sounds like 99% of them are going to be there.  Leander isn't the only school having these issues.  It sucks, but it's easy to play the blame game when you're not on the phone the entire day trying to make the whole freakin mess work out.  


Quite frankly I'm shocked that more bands haven't dropped out or are in the same situation.  This is happening because these directors care about these kids and are not willing to put them in an unsafe situation.  All I can think about is that American Fork assistant director that was killed a few years back on the way back home from a competition.  It wasn't because of weather, but I'd hate to think of something similar happening here.  Just stay safe everyone, will be thinking about all the bands making the trek there tomorrow morning especially.  


Get some rest while you can, and I hope tomorrow is less hectic.  

#90623 6A UIL State

Posted by ~ME~ on 05 November 2014 - 07:10 AM

Gee... 5 State Titles in a row... I think Marcus has set a record that very well may never be broken. When it came to marching and playing, they were way ahead of their time back in 2006, and even now when other bands have finally begun to catch up, they are still good enough to win. Congrats to them! There have been many amazing Texas powerhouses such as Westfield, Spring, Bell, and Reagan, but in my books Marcus is the single greatest band program in the history of Texas marching band. It's been amazing watching them throughout the years. Now I'm already curious to see if they'll walk away with number 6 two years from now... 


2nd UIL State silver medal in a row for Hebron, and a well deserved one. This program has truly come into their own these past few years (like many other programs recently). I was super impressed with the insane technicality of their music and how incredible they sounded playing it all year, and I'm glad to see that pay off for them. Now that this year has wrapped up for them, I'm super interested in what they have in store for next year. I'm desperately hoping that they'll FINALLY make their debut at Grand Nationals that has been long overdue. Heck, maybe they'll become the first band in BOA history to bring home the eagle on their first Grand Nats appearance. That would be something.


Talk about a group that has come into their own, CTJ has just been killing it all season. The first place finish at BOA San Antonio isn't what I found most surprising about them this year (that was going to happen eventually), it's actually this medal at UIL that really surprised me and made me realize just how good this band is getting. It's one thing to just be good at BOA only or vise versa, but being successful at both BOA and UIL is a sign of a truly well rounded program. I think that's the biggest thing CTJ proved this year: that they're more than just a BOA powerhouse. Like Hebron, I really hope these guys make a trip to Indy next season as well. They would likely have a very, VERY good shot at the eagle as well. Fingers crossed! 


Bowie was fantastic this year. They were such a well-balanced group musically and visually. I really wanted them to finally get a medal this year, and they more than deserved it. If they keep being as incredible has they have been, they'll get a medal eventually for sure. 


This was such a great contest. It was awesome to see some new bands in Keller and Flower Mound (who is going to kick butt at Nationals), as well as astrong return to finals by Duncanville. Reagan (congrats to them on their well-deserved 5th place finish, by the way), The Woodlands, and Coppell were ALL fantastic as well. Seriously, these San Antonio contests just get better every year. What an awesome end to the season in Texas. I look forward to Flower Mound and Wakeland going up to Indy to represent Texas at Grand Nationals. Good luck to them!

#90621 6A UIL State

Posted by LKendrick on 05 November 2014 - 05:48 AM

What a year for Johnson.  1st at Conroe, 1st at San Antonio, and 3rd at state, wow!  They're a new powerhouse, I can't wait for them to go back to nationals.  


Hebron was close!  Those visual scores sure flipped from prelims. 


Marcus, that's 9 years you've been the reigning champion, and in this state, that's absolutely incredible, congratulations!  

#86842 2013 BOA Grand Nationals

Posted by GR parent on 19 November 2013 - 05:41 AM

Check out this YouTube.   This is how the Blue Springs band was welcomed home after GN, and after dodging tornadoes in southern Illinois. They had to take cover in the back of a Walmart when the tornado sirens started going off while they were stopped for lunch!  Several parents got pictures or videos of tornadoes on their way home!  The police even gave them a police escort to the high school!  There were a lot of parents anxious to hug their kids!!